On second thoughts the "reverse d'Hondt" idea isn't so crash hot if you
want non-complexity. Maybe simple d'Hondt would be the way to go...
On Fri, 16 Mar 2001, David Catchpole wrote:
> Well, I like pottering about with multiple winners, though I don't like
> expressing preferences. On a practic
>Right now IRV is increasingly supported as the only alternative to
>plurality. IRV advocates are very loud and very unified, giving them
>a cascading unfair advantage in the more progressive press
>organizations, especially through their mouth pieces in Center for
>Voting and Democracy, and in t
>I am waiting to see a system with similar properties to
>Condorcet/Schultz or Ranked Pairs, but which allows voters to rank
>multiple candidates at the same preference.
Most advocates of those methods, and other Condorcet versions, are in favor
of allowing voters to rank more than 1 alternati
>
>1. Time Machine - who shall we zap from history to meet in person and ask
>questions?
>2. What should be the minimum voting age?
>3. What nickname should we give the new U.S. President?
Nominations duly noted. About #1, can we abduct a historical figure
from his time before he does what he w
> Nominations duly noted. About #1, can we abduct a historical figure
> from his time before he does what he was going to do? That would
> certainly change what kind of people we'd vote for.
My nomination is to zap them at the end of their life (in case we can't send
them back), so we're doing it
Mr. Layton wrote --
A Bad Condorcet winner is a low utility Condorcet winner. For those who see
the primary purpose of election methods to elect the highest utility
candidate, and see voters as rational utility maximisers, this is a
crucially important flaw.
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Thu, 15 Mar 2001, "Moe St. Evergreen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[...]
>I am also waiting, (perhaps paradoxically) to see a system that
>minimizes arbitrary/random tie breaking, as I feel arbitrary/random
>is very hard to keep from being corrupt, and thus very hard to argue
>for, especially in the
Well, I like pottering about with multiple winners, though I don't like
expressing preferences. On a practical level I favour STV methods, but if
you want more sophisticated and slightly more fair methods then I think
hybrid Condorcet methods appeal the most. What do I mean? Well, say
there's 5 ca
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Moe St. Evergreen wrote:
> It seems to me that the Condorcet winner should always be among the
> winners in a multiple winner system.
There is a method called "Loring Ensemble Rules", which you can learn
more about at http://member.aol.com/loringrbt/elect.htm - the "Democracy
Evolves" site. I
This list is called, "election-methods", but perhaps it should
be called, single-winner-methods, as that seems to be the focus
of this list.
The only response I received to asking about multiple winner
elections, was one specifying STV/Hare, and which was posted by what
appeared to be an IRV ad
Tom Ruen wrote:
>> Votes Candidate (rating)
>> - -
>> 49% A(10) B(1) C(0)
>> 3% B(10) A(9) C(0)
>> 48% C(10) B(1) A(0)
>
>
> This shows an example where Condorcet demands
I am waiting to see a system with similar properties to
Condorcet/Schultz or Ranked Pairs, but which allows voters to rank
multiple candidates at the same preference.
I feel that a preference choice that allows equal rankings may be
more satisfying to voters. The processing should be more fair
Hello,
I would like to see a poll on multiple winner elections.
However, failing that, one on single winner elections is good.
And I prefer Voter's Choice, as it exemplifies several different
methods, allowing each person to at least see how the outcome of
their favorite system, and how they
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Subject: Borda Count and Donald Saari
Don:
Donald Saari, a leading mathematician in votng theory who's analysis
shows that the Borda Count is the only method which does
Mr. Ossipoff wrote in part ---
There's been some mention here about bad Condorcet winners. Presumably
that's Condorcet winners who don't have high first choice totals.
Bad for whom? Who is wronged when we elect such a Condorcet winner.
The majority who prefer him to A? The majority who prefer h
Mr. Layton wrote in part--
Well, actually, they're not. Some members advocate Borda or Cardinal
Ratings, both of which fail majority rule. In my opinion Approval does as
well. That's probably more than half the list advocating methods that fail
majority rule.
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D- Democracy just happens t
Mr. Ossipoff wrote in part-
I wouldn't know how to vote on months.
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D- Yes or No on each and number rank them-- such as
May YES 5
Dec NO 12
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Dear participants,
Craig Layton wrote (14 Mar 2001):
> Markus appears to have left too.
In so far as the latest version of Cloneproof
SSD is identical to one of my favorite methods
(http://groups.yahoo.com/group/election-methods-list/message/2291)
there is no real need for me to introduce new ar
Foods in general (say, restaurant meals) might be better than just pizza
toppings. That way you can have a few similar candidates (similar
toppings), along with a few "radicals" (e.g. sashimi).
Bart
Richard Moore wrote:
>
> I like the suggestion of TV shows. Movies is good too, except tha
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