Re: [EM] Month Approval election results

2001-03-18 Thread Tom Ruen
Thanks for your comments, Bart! Here's a reply to part. >... Bart wrote: > This was an interesting demonstration, although I don't agree that the > closeness between May and September was the fault of approval voting. > Even among those who did express a preference for one or the other, > there w

Re: [EM] Month Approval election results

2001-03-18 Thread Bart Ingles
Tom Ruen wrote: > > This is a first draft analysis on the Month Approval election held over the > last week. > > I asked people to vote for their favorite months, as many or few as they > liked. I said if none had a majority approval, the top approval candidate > would win, and if more than 2

Re: [EM] Bad Condorcet winners?

2001-03-18 Thread Tom Ruen
Thanks Mike, Let me repeat my issue simply one last time, just to be brief, not because I think we have any disagreement. My concern over compromises exist because preference is often a multidimensional issue. I simply don't want people to blindly vote in a line through a 1-dimensional political

Re: [EM] Suggestion for Poll Topic

2001-03-18 Thread MIKE OSSIPOFF
> >> So far these are the nominations, but let > >> me know if I've missed one or more: > >[...] > >A new suggestion for the poll topic: "What >should the poll topic be?" (since it does >have to be decided anyway) But that's already the current poll topic for which we're taking nominations a

Re: [EM] Bad Condorcet winners?

2001-03-18 Thread MIKE OSSIPOFF
>Mike, there are 2 ways to look at this. I chose the first, and you the >second... > >The question we're considering is "Which is simpler for voters to rank - >IRV >or Condorcet?" > >1. IRV is less demanding because it never uses lower rankings on a ballot >until all higher candidates are elimi

Re: [EM] Suggestion for Poll Topic

2001-03-18 Thread Tom Ruen
Of course the problem with THAT question, is that we may get different answers depending on which election method we use to pick! :) - Original Message - From: "Anthony Simmons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2001 4:36 PM Subject: [EM] Suggestion for

[EM] Month Approval election results

2001-03-18 Thread Tom Ruen
This is a first draft analysis on the Month Approval election held over the last week. I asked people to vote for their favorite months, as many or few as they liked. I said if none had a majority approval, the top approval candidate would win, and if more than 2 had a majority approval, then the

[EM] Suggestion for Poll Topic

2001-03-18 Thread Anthony Simmons
>> So far these are the nominations, but let >> me know if I've missed one or more: [...] A new suggestion for the poll topic: "What should the poll topic be?" (since it does have to be decided anyway)

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Re: [EM] Bad Condorcet winners?

2001-03-18 Thread Bart Ingles
A couple of quick comments: Tom Ruen wrote: > > Mike, there are 2 ways to look at this. I chose the first, and you the > second... > > The question we're considering is "Which is simpler for voters to rank - IRV > or Condorcet?" > > 1. IRV is less demanding because it never uses lower ranking

Re: [EM] Markus's '98 Cloneproof SSD wording

2001-03-18 Thread Markus Schulze
Dear Mike, you wrote (17 Mar 2001): > The re-application of BeatpathWinner or Cloneproof SSD to the > candidates who remain tied after Random Ballot doesn't cause any > problems then? Also for this re-application it is possible to create examples which can be interpreted as a violation of monoto

Re: [EM] Bad Condorcet winners?

2001-03-18 Thread Tom Ruen
Mike, there are 2 ways to look at this. I chose the first, and you the second... The question we're considering is "Which is simpler for voters to rank - IRV or Condorcet?" 1. IRV is less demanding because it never uses lower rankings on a ballot until all higher candidates are eliminated. There

[EM] Irving and Robert's Rules of Order:

2001-03-18 Thread I like Irving
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 03/18/01 Greetings, I was looking over these pages out of Robert's Rules of Order that Steve Barney was so kind to send to us, when I seen something I didn't like. The point of this letter is to object to some tie solutions