[EM] FWD - Center for Voting and Democracy Digest:

2001-04-14 Thread I Like Irving
Forwarded Digest --- Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 04:02:48 -0500 From: Rob Richie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Fair Elections: Legislation, reports, democracy conference, more: Sender: Rob Richie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] April 6, 2001 To: Friends of Fair Electi

[EM] Campaign issue: wv vs m

2001-04-14 Thread MIKE OSSIPOFF
Rob wrote: But when it comes to margins vs. winning-votes (also known as votes-against or defeat-support), I don't think strategy turns out to be an issue, unfortunately, because winning-votes doesn't actually get around the problem. Under winning-votes, a voter can order sincere ties in prefe

[EM] Getting rid of primary

2001-04-14 Thread Tony Simmons
>> From: MIKE OSSIPOFF >> Subject: [EM] no primary >> Anthony wrote: >> In other words, two >> round runoff. No more primary. >> Not that big a change. >> I reply: >> Getting rid of the primary and switching from Plurality to >> Runoff are big changes. [...] You left out some things. The p

[EM] None-of-the-above

2001-04-14 Thread Anthony Simmons
>> From: Tom Ruen >> Subject: Re: [EM] 3 choices/5 voters Example >> I like the idea of including a None-of-the Above choice >> (explicit or implicit) and if this "choice" wins the >> election, then all the candidates are discarded and a new >> election must be held with all new candidates! This

[EM] Which Condorcet completion method is best?

2001-04-14 Thread Rob LeGrand
Howdy all, Here are the results of my simulations. Each one ran 9 elections and each election had 1 voters. The only difference among the simulations was the number of candidates per election: one had 4, one 10 and one 25. The results tables use abbreviations for the methods that are d

[EM] Nothing much

2001-04-14 Thread Tony Simmons
>> From: Craig Carey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> At 2001-04-12 19:09 +0100 Thursday, Martin Harper wrote: >> [snip] >> >What have I missed? Something important clearly... >> > >> I decline to answer. I am quitting. Thank you. >> This list has subscribers that appear to be very stupi

[EM] Absolute Voting Scale

2001-04-14 Thread DEMOREP1
Give a scale vote to each choice. Example- Max = 100, Min = 0 A 30 B 0 C 10 D 100 E 20 F 99 The above in reality might become A 3 B 0 C 1 D 100 E 2 F 99 There might be a requirement that no 2 choices get the same scale vote -- to prevent ALL 100 or 0 votes - even among 2 or more liberal

Re: [EM] Duncan Black on Condorcet

2001-04-14 Thread Blake Cretney
Dear Markus, Before I comment on Duncan Black, I'll give an interesting quote from Condorcet that is relevant to the current subject. He's advocating the Condorcet criterion (though not in name). He gives an example of three candidates, where C pairwise beats the other two, and B pairwise beats

Re: Some brief campaign argument

2001-04-14 Thread DEMOREP1
Ranking of pairs (or anything else) does NOT show any *absolute* support (on a plus 100 percent to minus 100 percent scale). There are at least 3 tables floating around in multiple choice elections-- 1. Absolute Scale Table (100 percent to minus 100 percent) (with variants such as limited scal

RE: Keeping elections simple

2001-04-14 Thread DEMOREP1
Mr. Harper wrote in part- The question is - is it better to reduce the number of candidates standing by charging candidates for standing, or by having a method which isn't fully independant from vote splitting problems? What should be aimed for in terms of numbers of frivolous and serious candida

Re: [EM] Some brief campaign argument

2001-04-14 Thread Blake Cretney
Here are my brief campaign arguments. I hope that people take this election seriously. As possibly the only list that discusses these methods, we can have an influence. Not a tremendous influence; I don't imagine governments paying close attention to what we decide. But an influence neverthele

Re: [EM] nominations

2001-04-14 Thread Richard Moore
Whether or not they do well, having them on the list means that there will be a broader range of voter utilities which (in my opinion) makes the contest more interesting. So I'll play the devil's advocate and nominate all three of them. Richard MIKE OSSIPOFF wrote: > > Richard wrote: > > S

[EM] Keeping elections simple

2001-04-14 Thread Martin Harper
Just a thought... It seems that most countries throughout the world try and keep their elections nice and simple, by reducing the numbers of candidates running. In the UK they charge people for losing their deposit, in other places they require a minimum of X% of the popular vote to get any seats