[EM] Approval, polling and strategy

2001-04-17 Thread LAYTON Craig
This is my third (and final) installment. I'm sorry for taking up so much space in your in-boxes, but I don't intend to repeat these arguments often, and I wanted to get them all together in one go. Approval, more than any other voting system (except probably Cardinal Ratings), relies on

Re: [EM] Further comments re: Blake's letter

2001-04-17 Thread Markus Schulze
Dear Mike, you wrote (16 Apr 2001): I should add that, of the 4 list-members that I named (5 if you count me), all but one also prefer BeatpathWinner to Ranked-Pairs. It isn't clear what you mean with "BeatpathWinner." Due to the usual way, in which new terms are created out of old terms in

[EM] 9 Voters/ 3 Choices

2001-04-17 Thread DEMOREP1
In addition to the 5 Voters/ 3 Choices example there is the 9 Voters / 3 Choices example (for the benefit of newer EM folks, as usual). 4 A 3 B 2 C 9 Which choice, if any, has majority acceptability ??? Which voters, if any, make second choice votes (unless there is a majority requirement)

RE: [EM] Some brief campaign argument

2001-04-17 Thread Anthony Simmons
From: LAYTON Craig Subject: RE: [EM] Some brief campaign argument 1) Approval is unique in that a sincere vote is always the best strategic vote. However, this is because you are only allowed to express a single layer of preferences - if you're preference is ABC, you can only express the

[EM] Replying to Markus

2001-04-17 Thread MIKE OSSIPOFF
Markus wrote: you wrote (16 Apr 2001): I should add that, of the 4 list-members that I named (5 if you count me), all but one also prefer BeatpathWinner to Ranked-Pairs. It isn't clear what you mean with "BeatpathWinner." I reply: I'm sorry that isn't clear to you, because I've defined it on

Re: [EM] Some brief campaign argument

2001-04-17 Thread Richard Moore
Anthony Simmons wrote: I wonder if other methods have this same characteristic even if they don't seem to. IRV, for example, allows you to specify a complete ranking, but during the actual counting, at any given time, you are either voting for a candidate or you aren't. While this looks

Re: [EM] Some brief campaign argument

2001-04-17 Thread Richard Moore
Like Don Davison and Craig Carey, Craig has attempted to find points against approval. Although he has done a somewhat better job of it, I still think there are problems with his arguments. LAYTON Craig wrote: This is my post on why you shouldn't vote for Approval in the upcomming election.