Re: [EM] More falsity: Concavity is what we want, better that than , a triangle

2001-09-27 Thread Buddha Buck
Buddha Buck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Forest Simmons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > If I had your definition (of voting method) in your language (formal or > > not), I might be able to give a definition (to your satisfaction) of what > > I consider a voting system to be in the same (or si

Re: [EM] More falsity: Concavity is what we want, better that than , a triangle

2001-09-27 Thread Buddha Buck
Forest Simmons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > If I had your definition (of voting method) in your language (formal or > not), I might be able to give a definition (to your satisfaction) of what > I consider a voting system to be in the same (or similar) language, so > that you could, for example,

Re: [EM] [Fwd: No response was requested from you]

2001-09-27 Thread Rob Lanphier
On Wed, 26 Sep 2001, Richard Moore wrote: > Craig may have a genuine problem understanding some of the > statements made on this list (though most of the time I > think it's plain disingenuity, or that's how it comes > across), but his bigger problem is that he just doesn't know > how to ask f

Re: [EM] [Fwd: No response was requested from you]

2001-09-27 Thread Richard Moore
Dave Ketchum wrote: > Aha! Levels seems clear from Condorcet for 10 candidates having 10 levels. > > But then you say you can have something in 2 levels that you also call Condorcet. Now I understand where the confusion comes from. I really didn't say something with only two levels could be

[EM] Policy Options, Jul-Aug 2001 Election reform articles

2001-09-27 Thread DEMOREP1
http://www.irpp.org/po/index.htm   back issues [link] Policy Options, Jul-Aug 2001 (Canada politics magazine) [PDF articles in such issue (summaries below) --- to give EM folks some idea about what mere mortals are thinking about various election reforms. Canada has the single member di

Re: [EM] Re: Eugene uses Approval Voting for Referendums

2001-09-27 Thread Forest Simmons
On Thu, 27 Sep 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in part: > > Simple Approval is defective since head to head math is not done (with or > without a quota). > Buddha Buck recently showed in gory detail that the head to head count on a two level ballot yields the Approval winnner.

Re: [EM] More falsity: Concavity is what we want, better that than , a triangle

2001-09-27 Thread Forest Simmons
On Thu, 27 Sep 2001, Craig Carey wrote: > > Forest Simmons is sort of arguing for the rights of electorates but not > for rights of voters. > Actually I wasn't arguing for anybody's rights. I was more interested in customer satisfaction. Perhaps you read "partition" as "petition" , or it cou

Re: [EM] Consistency, Truncation, etc. (was CR ballots, etc.)

2001-09-27 Thread Forest Simmons
On 26 Sep 2001, Buddha Buck wrote: > Forest wrote: > > > > If candidate A wins DECISIVELY in all the subsets in some partition of the > > electorate (by restricting the election to the ballots from each of the > > subsets of the partition in turn) then candidate A wins the entire > > election

[EM] Re: Eugene uses Approval Voting for Referendums

2001-09-27 Thread DEMOREP1
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote- Oops, guess I had the wrong quota method in mind. I think there was another Demorep proposal that was named by you, and defined as Approval with 50% quota. Or maybe that was yet another variation. Too tired to go checking the archives right now. If it isn't named yet

Re: [EM] [Fwd: No response was requested from you]

2001-09-27 Thread Dave Ketchum
On Wed, 26 Sep 2001 23:39:17 -0700 Richard Moore wrote in part: > > Dave Ketchum wrote: > > > On the other side, "Two levels" puzzles me - if I had more time for this > > group I might have got this from context, but I could have been asking > > the same question (e.g., this could have been tied