[EM] Re: Margins vs Winning Votes

2002-02-28 Thread DEMOREP1
26 AB 25 BA 49 CX 100 Who wins (with or without insincere /strategic votes) ??? OR -- the mysterious case of solving for X (= A and/or B, anywhere from zero to 49) Any answers from Mr. LeGrand or Mr. Ossipoff ???

Re: Smith Sets with >3 members

2002-02-28 Thread DEMOREP1
Mr. Schulze wrote- every election method that meets the majority criterion is vulnerable to "compromising". In so far as a voter will usually approve at least that candidate who gets this voter's first preference, you cannot circumvent this incompability by using "some hybrid method that requires

Re: [EM] Smith Sets with >3 members

2002-02-28 Thread Forest Simmons
On Thu, 28 Feb 2002, Markus Schulze wrote: > Dear Forest, > > every election method that meets the majority criterion is > vulnerable to "compromising". In so far as a voter will > usually approve at least that candidate who gets this > voter's first preference, you cannot circumvent this > incom

[EM] 02/28/02 - Successive Quota Surpluses for STV and IRVing:

2002-02-28 Thread Donald Davison
02/28/02 - Successive Quota Surpluses for STV and IRVing: Dear Tom Ruen, Back on the 26th of January, when I answered your post about `vote splitting', there was another solution that I had forgotten about. That solution goes by the title of: Successive Quota Surpluses for STV. The method uses

[EM] Rob LG's definitions

2002-02-28 Thread MIKE OSSIPOFF
Rob LG said: try Simpson (Plain Condorcet) and Schulze (SSD). I reply: So Rob LG believes that Schulze's method is SSD? BeatpathWinner is equivalent to Cloneproof SSD. Cloneproof SSD is a modification of SSD. SSD never meant Cloneproof SSD. And Schulze's method isn't BeatpathWinner anyway.

Re: [EM] Smith Sets with >3 members

2002-02-28 Thread Markus Schulze
Dear Forest, every election method that meets the majority criterion is vulnerable to "compromising". In so far as a voter will usually approve at least that candidate who gets this voter's first preference, you cannot circumvent this incompability by using "some hybrid method that requires infor

Re: Margins vs Winning Votes

2002-02-28 Thread MIKE OSSIPOFF
Rob LeGrand said: Now Mike Ossipoff wants to discourage strategic truncation I reply: That wasn't what I said. I said that I'd like to keep truncation (strategic or otherwise) from causing the defeat of a sincere CW in violation of majority rule. And I'd like voters to not have to use dras