Re: [EM] NYTimes.com Article: French Twist: A Fair Way to Pick Oscars?

2002-03-19 Thread Steve Barney
Well, one thing you always can do is to write a letter to the editor pointing out their errors, and embarass the paper in public. You need to do this almost immediately, as there is a general rule of journalistic ethics regarding the publication of such correctional letters in a timely manner.

RE: [EM] WSJ Gerrymander story

2002-03-19 Thread Narins, Josh
Thank you, Forrest. It's been a decade since Real Analysis, and the name, apparently, lingered longer than it's meaning. -Original Message- From: Forest Simmons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 7:52 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [EM] WSJ Gerrymander

[EM] Gerrymandering and PR

2002-03-19 Thread Alex Small
Joe Weinstein wrote: Short of forcing everyone into a single district, with resulting guaranteed huge campaign costs for small parties or obscure candidacies, it's NOT necessarily easier to maximize overall geographic fitness or 'utility' of an apportionment scheme by using PR. By the way,

Re: [EM] Gerrymandering and PR

2002-03-19 Thread Forest Simmons
On Tue, 19 Mar 2002, [iso-8859-1] Alex Small wrote: Good point about geographical concerns. In a bicameral state legislature it would be reasonable to elect one house by PR and the other with single- member districts. We can debate which house of the legislature should be elected by PR,

Re: [EM] Gerrymandering and PR

2002-03-19 Thread Adam Tarr
Joe Weinstein wrote and Alex responded: usual PR presumes that voters want to be proportionally represented ONLY according to political party, not other criteria, including geographic proximity. Good point about geographical concerns. In a bicameral state legislature it would be reasonable to

Re: [EM] Working with journalists

2002-03-19 Thread Anthony Simmons
From: Forest Simmons [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [EM] Working with journalists That's helpful. Ideally, there should be some back and forth on these things that don't have urgent deadlines, so that the final version that gets published is acceptable to both author and publisher, or

Re: WSJ Gerrymander story

2002-03-19 Thread DEMOREP1
With Proxy P.R. there can be some sort of semi-permanent districts -- 1 or more political subdivisions or part of 1 subdivision. Proxy P.R. = Each winner has a voting power in the legislative body equal to the number of votes that he/she finally receives (directly and from losers). At least 2

RE: [EM] Zimbabwe

2002-03-19 Thread Narins, Josh
From the bloomberg Newswire (Mar 18, 4:03PM) What was the correction you sent them? Oh, not this story, I didn't know she had the facts wrong. I did send the author of this story an URL or two about Condorcet. I also claimed that there was nothing undemocratic about IRV. Other stories were

re:[EM] Gerrymandering and PR

2002-03-19 Thread Alex Small
Adam Tarr wrote: Also, I think PR should stick to districts of 5 or 6 members, rather than operating state-wide, to keep the district sizes half-way reasonable. Whether this is necessary really depends on the election method. If the election is done using open party list, then voting is very

re:[EM] Gerrymandering and PR

2002-03-19 Thread Adam Tarr
If the election is done using open party list, then voting is very simple no matter how many candidates there are. My concern is not the method. My concern is that electoral districts be a reasonable size so that campaign costs aren't unmanageable. Also, I worry that if each party's slate is

re: Gerrymandering and PR

2002-03-19 Thread DEMOREP1
Adam wrote in part- These are valid concerns, which, along with practical voting and counting concerns, argue against very large districts. On the other hand, if you have small districts you don't get real proportionality. In my opinion, you have to have at least 5 or 6 seats in a district

Re: [EM] Gerrymandering

2002-03-19 Thread Blake Cretney
Joe Weinstein wrote: By the way, usual PR presumes that voters want to be proportionally represented ONLY according to political party, not other criteria, including geographic proximity. That's as mistaken as the present one-rep one-locality fiasco. Also by the way, we would get much

re: [EM] Gerrymandering and PR

2002-03-19 Thread Adam Tarr
I wrote and Alex responded: if you have small districts you don't get real proportionality. In my opinion, you have to have at least 5 or 6 seats in a district to get acceptably proportional results. The more fractionalized the electorate is, the more seats per district you need. I'm not

Re: [EM] Working with journalists

2002-03-19 Thread Anthony Simmons
From: Alex Small [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [EM] Working with journalists Anthony Simmons wrote: I tried to explain that petroleum is a source of new energy, while hydrogen gas contains energy that has to be put there by us from some other source. Maybe this is just a semantic issue