[EM] 04/04/02 - Stéphane wrote: "I only prefer Hare quota..."

2002-04-03 Thread Donald Davison
04/04/02 - Stéphane wrote: "I only prefer Hare quota..." Dear Mr. Stéphane Rouillon, For years, I too only preferred the Hare quota, but in time I became aware of the weakness of the Hare Preferential Plan and the ways in which this weakness can be corrected. I can best explain if I start with

[EM] 04/04/02 - Rob LeGrand's Three way Tie:

2002-04-03 Thread Donald Davison
04/04/02 - Rob LeGrand's Three way Tie: Rob LeGrand, you wrote: "Donald's imagined Approval strategy can backfire badly for the two largest factions. Consider 49:Reagan>Anderson>Carter 33:Carter>Anderson>Reagan 18:Anderson>Carter>Reagan According to Donald, neither the Reagan nor the Carter v

[EM] Voting Systems Standards Meetings, May 2002

2002-04-03 Thread DEMOREP1
http://www.fec.gov/pages/VSSAPRegnotice.htm Register Now for the 2002 Voting Systems Standards and Advisory Panel Meetings    The Federal Election Commission's Office of Election Administration invites you to attend a meeting introducing the updated Voting Systems Standards documen

[EM] Re: New clones definition?

2002-04-03 Thread DEMOREP1
Origin of clones- N1 A > B N2 B > A N Total votes C comes along C *may* beat - A B A and B neither A or B (is beat by both A and B). The degree of beatings may, of course, vary --- by 1 vote to 100 percent of the votes. One can not obviously detect if a beating is due to internal *clonenes

[EM] Primary Votes of new U.S.A. Representatives and U.S.A. Senators, 2000 Election

2002-04-03 Thread DEMOREP1
Primary Votes of new U.S.A. Representatives and U.S.A. Senators, 2000 Election The below ONLY is for new members with reported primary votes. PV Primary (or top 2 Runoff Primary) election votes GV General election votes Pct - PV as percent of GV U.S.A. Representatives 2000 Election

Re: How to vote in Approval

2002-04-03 Thread Forest Simmons
On Tue, 2 Apr 2002, MIKE OSSIPOFF wrote: > > Rob LG said: > > Rob LG continued: > > When an election is definitely zero-information, finely-grained Cardinal > Ratings is undoubtedly the champ. In fact, when no strategy is possible, I'd > rather the sincere CR winner win than the Condorcet wi

Re: [EM] New clones definition?

2002-04-03 Thread Joe Weinstein
Rob's proposal sounds familiar, as well as maybe even plausible. Let's try it out on a very simple election: 100: A>B (A and B are the only candidates, everyone loves A and detests B.) Delete B from ballots, you get: 100: A Delete A from ballots, rename B as A, you get: 100: A The propo

RE: [EM]

2002-04-03 Thread Narins, Josh
Alex, thanks for the answer. This was the question I was shooting for... Demorep offered numbers like... AZ House +20.53% GOP overrepresentation KY House +23.43% Dem overrepresentation One can't just add those two numbers to find out, overall, which party, and by how much, is overrepresented i

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2002-04-03 Thread Alex Small
Josh wrote and Demorep replied: >>Is there any way to sum the House and Senate over/under representation >>figures? > >D- It depends a bit. > >Votes for losers in gerrymander/ plurality areas are obviously ALL >*wasted*--under-represented votes. > >Votes more than the votes for the second place c

RE: U.S.A. government elections, Seats Percentages versus Vo tes Percentages

2002-04-03 Thread DEMOREP1
Josh asked- Is there any way to sum the House and Senate over/under representation figures? --- D- It depends a bit. Votes for losers in gerrymander/ plurality areas are obviously ALL *wasted* -- under-represented votes. Votes more than the votes for the second place choice are *wasted* (tho

Re: [EM] 04/03/02 - Adam needs a method that will win elections for his party:

2002-04-03 Thread Alex Small
Donald wrote: >When the people have reason to support a third party they will support a >third party. We have plenty of reason to do so. It is unfathomable that two only two options, diametrically opposed in rhetoric (if not in actions) can represent all of America. >It is understandable that

RE: [EM] 04/03/02 - Cretney is not reading all his EM email:

2002-04-03 Thread Narins, Josh
George Walker Bush is going to send zero emails for his entire Presidency, in part, for this reason. In part, because he wants no trail. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 5:03 AM To: [EM] Subject: [EM] 04/03/02 - Cretney

RE: [EM] Interesting article

2002-04-03 Thread Narins, Josh
This article was about a small (pop 10K) town in CT where the new residents (wealthy) democratically voted for a very large bond issue to improve the already notable local school system. The author contends that Democracy failed the long time residents, whom he refers to as "Swamp Yankees." It's

[EM] How to proceed

2002-04-03 Thread Narins, Josh
Hi! I told the story, poorly, perhaps, of the changes in the process of Reapportionment in the United States. I did this primarily to indicate how progress in Election Methods might occur. 1. The National Academy of Sciences will have to study the issue for many years. They've got some quality

Re: [EM] BASIC PARTS OF THE B.C. GREEN PARTY P.R. PROPOSAL FEB.2002

2002-04-03 Thread Olli Salmi
http://elections.bc.ca/init/i2002.html The bill is very interesting but I'm not happy with the wording in the quote. It's not very precise and apparently there is no provision for overhang seats. Of course it may be simply that I cannot read the text properly. >Regulations for allocating party s

Re: [EM] 04/03/02 - Adam needs a method that will win elections for his party:

2002-04-03 Thread Adam Tarr
Don Davidson wrote: >Adam, you are confused. It is not a weakness of IRV that it does not >interfer with the voters and with an election when it does not break the >system out of a two-party duopoly. Instead, it is the strength of IRV that >it allows the public to break the system out of a two-

[EM] 04/03/02 - Cretney is not reading all his EM email:

2002-04-03 Thread Donald Davison
04/03/02 - Cretney is not reading all his EM email: Greetings list, Cretney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: "First, this looks like a personal correspondence between Craig and Rob. Presumably Craig forwarded this to you..." Davison here, Cretney, you presume wrong. I don't fault you for not readin

[EM] 04/03/02 - Mr Stéphane Rouillon wrote:

2002-04-03 Thread Donald Davison
04/03/02 - Mr Stéphane Rouillon wrote: Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2002 01:25:55 -0500 1000: A,B 1000: A,C 1000: B,C 1000: B,A 1000: C,A 1000: C,B Maybe I am mistaken, but this example seems very realistic to me. Hi Stéphane, Donald here, you are mistaken. Your example has 6000 votes divided exactly