RE: [EM] Correction. Big CS fault?

2002-12-20 Thread Craig Carey
At 02\12\20 23:04 + Friday, James Gilmour wrote: >> At 02\12\20 14:16 + Friday, James Gilmour wrote: >> >Craig Carey wrote (in part): >> >> >> >> It might seem that in a 6 candidate election, the paper (ABC) is more >> >> about A,B,C, than about D,E,F. But it can be expanded out like th

RE: [EM] Correction. Big CS fault?

2002-12-20 Thread James Gilmour
> At 02\12\20 14:16 + Friday, James Gilmour wrote: > >Craig Carey wrote (in part): > >> > >> It might seem that in a 6 candidate election, the paper (ABC) is more > >> about A,B,C, than about D,E,F. But it can be expanded out like this: > >> > >> 1(ABC) = ((ABCDEF) + (ABCDFE) + (ABCEDF) +

RE: [EM] 12/19/02 - `Mikeo the man of many Typos'

2002-12-20 Thread Alex Small
Narins, Josh said: > Alex, AMEN! That's right! Haleluiah! > I think Craig and Donald are on to us. It doesn't matter. The time-table is set. They will soon be down in Guantanamo with the other skeptics of Approval Voting and Condorcet. > Our scam, which we have been carefully planning since

[EM] Ad Hominem (Was: Giving `crutches to weak candidates')

2002-12-20 Thread Alex Small
Craig Carey said: > The man-cow, Russ P., probably is reluctant to copy that page onto the > black website that was translated into French. If you're going to keep personally insulting people, especially people not active on the list, and using insults unrelated to any of their statements on votin

[EM] Cumulative Approval (Not CRAB) [Was: CR vs Condorcet]

2002-12-20 Thread Gervase Lam
Condorcet has a good chance of going right to the voter median in Condorcet's 1st election, instead of in the 2nd election as Approval might do, if people's estimates were off in the 1st election. Mike Ossipoff -- I think it is best to assume that the 2nd Approval election is independent of the

RE: [EM] 12/19/02 - `Mikeo the man of many Typos'

2002-12-20 Thread Narins, Josh
Alex, AMEN! I think Craig and Donald are on to us. Our scam, which we have been carefully planning since 1283 AD/CE, is to make sure that our candidate, who for now must remain nameless, wins in 2032 with our devious tactic of having "garbage" vote. We are currently en-grossed in registering mos

RE: [EM] Correction. Big CS fault?

2002-12-20 Thread Craig Carey
At 02\12\20 14:16 + Friday, James Gilmour wrote: >Craig Carey wrote (in part): >> >> It might seem that in a 6 candidate election, the paper (ABC) is more >> about A,B,C, than about D,E,F. But it can be expanded out like this: >> >> 1(ABC) = ((ABCDEF) + (ABCDFE) + (ABCEDF) + (ABCEFD) + (ABCFDE)

[EM] My Matrix for Kemeny's Rule, n=3

2002-12-20 Thread barnes99
Here is my matrix for Kemeny's Rule with 3 candidates. Please let me know if I got it right or wrong. Here is an example of a Kemeny Rule tally for profile p, p=(1,1,0,0,0,0), where the first thru sixth columns represent, respectively, the number of ABC, ACB, CAB, CBA, BCA, and BAC voters. Vot

Re: [EM] 12/13/02 - Giving `crutches to weak candidates':

2002-12-20 Thread Craig Carey
Her are some examples constructed to be similar to the example that was recently provided. The Alternative Vote is only discarding about 17% of the vote which is a lot less than what it can do for 4 candidates. These 1 winner 5 candidate examples are designed to: * Have B win * Have an order

Re: [EM] 12/13/02 - Giving `crutches to weak candidates':

2002-12-20 Thread Adam Tarr
I must admit I'm not the least bit surprised that Donald Davison has not responded to my message from 12/18. This is standard debating style for Donald -- post an inflammatory criticism of Condorcet or Approval, ignore the reasoned responses, rinse, repeat. Would it be too much to ask him to

Re: [EM] 12/19/02 - `Mikeo the man of many Typos'

2002-12-20 Thread Alex Small
Donald said: > Mike Ossipoff wrote: > > In my most recent message, the following passage was accidentally > left in after it had been discovered to be incorrect: > > "(In ordinary Approval, the fact that the Dems are more numerous than > the Nader people means that the Dem candidates will outscore

RE: [EM] Correction. Big CS fault?

2002-12-20 Thread James Gilmour
Craig Carey wrote (in part): > > It might seem that in a 6 candidate election, the paper (ABC) is more > about A,B,C, than about D,E,F. But it can be expanded out like this: > > 1(ABC) = ((ABCDEF) + (ABCDFE) + (ABCEDF) + (ABCEFD) + (ABCFDE) + (ABCFED))/6 > > So every single paper is a paper that ca

Re: [EM] Correction. Big CS fault?

2002-12-20 Thread Craig Carey
Hi Forest. I find your message incomprehensible and most of the problem is with the English words. This is not a message that is sent merely to create an opportunity for you to subsequently write nothing. The geometry of voting is somewhat really simple. There is plain space and a dimension for

[EM] 12/19/02 - `Mikeo the man of many Typos'

2002-12-20 Thread Donald E Davison
12/19/02 - `Mikeo the man of many Typos' Greetings list members, Mike Ossipoff wrote: In my most recent message, the following passage was accidentally left in after it had been discovered to be incorrect: "(In ordinary Approval, the fact that the Dems are more numerous than the Nader people me