Re: [EM] Condorcet Voting

2003-01-06 Thread Markus Schulze
Dear Eric, in so far as the pairwise defeat A:C=25:44 has a smaller margin than the pairwise defeat C:D=22:44, the pairwise defeat A:C will be dropped first. Markus Schulze For more information about this list (subscribe, unsubscribe, FAQ, etc), please see http://www.eskimo.com/~robla/em

Re: [EM] Kemeny's Rules = Condorcet's Method

2003-01-06 Thread Markus Schulze
Dear Steve Barney, I have found only 4 instances where Condorcet discusses situations with more than 3 candidates. It seems to me that Condorcet mistakenly believes (1) that whenever you lock successively the strongest defeats then you get a unique ranking before a defeat creates a cycle and (2) t

RE: [EM] 01/05/03 - Two Replies for Olli:

2003-01-06 Thread James Gilmour
>Donald wrote: Second reply: >Your example of three groups with 33 1/3% each exposes the falacy of the > Droop quota. In the event an election method should be faced with > perfection on the first count, the method should be able to handle > perfection and report out perfect results. > > Har

Re: [EM] Approval with 2 ballotings

2003-01-06 Thread Bart Ingles
Alex Small wrote: > > I've been thinking about how one would introduce Approval Voting for local > non-partisan races. Many locales use 2-step runoff for some of their > elections. Many of us here believe that 2-step runoff is worse than IRV > or Approval, but a 2 step election fills the void l

Re: [EM] Kemeny's Rules = Condorcet's Method

2003-01-06 Thread Steve Barney
I find it confusing to call Marcus Shulze's method, which he sometimes calls the "beat path method," the "Condorcet method." It is not the same as the Kemeny Rule, which, according to the following, is the same as Condorcet's method: "Condorcet's maximal agreement method is identical with Kemen

[EM] Condorcet Voting

2003-01-06 Thread Eric Gorr
At 2:02 PM -0500 1/6/03, Stephane Rouillon wrote: Please answer on the EM list, I cannot send anything there from the job... I tried with random numbers and obtained... a tie. A very interesting case. thank you. I find this case quite odd and would appreciate comments from people who have wor

[EM] Condorcet Voting

2003-01-06 Thread Eric Gorr
Had a few spare hours yesterday with a snow storm I wasn't expecting and decided to create a site which would allow people to enter in the matrix which would result from Condorcet voting and output the winner(s). Of course, can't guarantee there aren't any bugs, but the algorithm is a small an

Computing Results (RE: [EM] Advanced Math question)

2003-01-06 Thread Narins, Josh
Firstly, thanks for the tip on "Merrill" Unfortunately, I don't know who Merrill is. Are they on the list? Secondly, you write "perl or other interpreted languages" I would request you kindly cease & desist bringing your 2nd millenium thinking into this :) Wll written perl is, in almost all case

[EM] 01/05/03 - Two Replies for Olli:

2003-01-06 Thread Donald Davison
01/05/03 - Two Replies for Olli: Dear Olli, First I have a clarificaion. In my last post on the subject of SNTV, I should have stated that the votes of an eliminated lowest candidate would not also be eliminated. The votes would stay in the count of the total party votes. This is why my policy