Re: [EM] Condorcet Criterion definitions (was Markus' Econometrica reference...)

2002-01-31 Thread Dave Ketchum
Quoting Blake from below: > > But for reasonable people, the objective proof of a method passing a > criterion has to be supplemented by an argument for why they should > care. So, the question is, if you want to make a Condorcet-based > argument against plurality, is this simplified by the

Re: [EM] Condorcet Criterion definitions (was Markus' Econometrica reference...)

2002-01-30 Thread Adam Tarr
At 06:39 PM 1/30/02 -0800, Blake Cretney wrote: >Your definition may well be clear and easy to apply. I don't remember >your definition. I'm pretty sure this is Mike's Definition: http://electionmethods.org/evaluation.html#CC It seems like a reasonable one to me. This does not mean that we

Re: [EM] Condorcet Criterion definitions (was Markus' Econometrica reference...)

2002-01-30 Thread Blake Cretney
MIKE OSSIPOFF wrote: > > Blake continues: > > Another solution to the problem would be to redefine CC to involve the > idea of voting sincerely. Presumably, sincere votes in a Condorcet > completion method should result in the sincere Condorcet winner winning. > But they would not in plurality.

[EM] Condorcet Criterion definitions (was Markus' Econometrica reference...)

2002-01-29 Thread MIKE OSSIPOFF
Blake wrote: [...] Another way out is to redefine plurality so that it applies to ranked ballots. The winner is the candidate who gets the most first-place votes. Now, plurality fails. I suspect that this is the approach most academics would take. However, it clearly involves a redefinition