Re: [EM] IRV in WA state

2002-02-06 Thread Bart Ingles
I would have agreed with you as recently as a year ago, but I now see Hare (aka IRV) as a sort of dead end in a rat maze. It won't help elect any third party candidates (look at Australia's lower house). And it will neutralize any ability of third parties to influence policy (although 3rd parti

Re: [EM] IRV in WA state

2002-02-05 Thread Bart Ingles
MIKE OSSIPOFF wrote: > > Does anyone know of other IRVie proposals around the country that > need to be dealt with now? It finally got on the ballot in SF. Here's the a PDF containing the voter information pamphlet (4 MB). Wish I'd known that it was possible to submit a paid ballot argument

[EM] IRV in WA state

2002-02-05 Thread Anthony Simmons
>> Anybody else interested in trying to speak out on this? >> Despite our lack of consensus on many things, I think >> almost all of us feel that IRVing is far from optimal in >> single winner elections. There's an IRV bill in Washington? I do know there's a bill to replace the open primary with

Re: [EM] IRV in WA state

2002-02-05 Thread MIKE OSSIPOFF
How far along is the WA IRV proposal? Has it made the ballot yet? As I understand it, there's an Alaska IRV proposal that has made the ballot, and which will be voted on as a state initiative this year. I don't know what month. I've meant to find out the e-mail addresses of the opponents of th

[EM] IRV in WA state

2002-02-05 Thread Douglas Greene
Anybody else interested in trying to speak out on this? Despite our lack of consensus on many things, I think almost all of us feel that IRVing is far from optimal in single winner elections. Doug