Re: [EM] Interesting use of Borda count

2002-01-28 Thread Olli Salmi
At 21:16 +0200 26.1.2002, Bart Ingles wrote: >> I'm not sure if this is very interesting. This year's Eurovision Song >> Contest is approaching ... >For clarification, are there exactly 11 or 12 nominees? Or is there a >much larger pool of candidates, from which each country is free to >select i

Re: [EM] Interesting use of Borda count

2002-01-27 Thread Jurij Toplak
There are about 25-30 nominees. That makes it more like hybrid of Approval and Borda voting. You mentioned strategic voting - there is a large possibility of strategic voting since countries do not give the votes at the same time. They call to the TV show one by one and give their votes. So for ex

Re: [EM] Interesting use of Borda count

2002-01-26 Thread Bart Ingles
For clarification, are there exactly 11 or 12 nominees? Or is there a much larger pool of candidates, from which each country is free to select its top 11 choices? If the former, the system sounds very close to Borda. I don't think the lack of an 11 point tier makes much difference. If the la

Re: [EM] Interesting use of Borda count

2002-01-25 Thread Steve Barney
st <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [EM] Interesting use of Borda count > [...] > > I tried to get Portland Community College (Portland, Oregon, where I > teach) to adopt this text or a similar one for the liberal arts math > course. Instead they opted for teaching standard top

Re: [EM] Interesting use of Borda count

2002-01-23 Thread Forest Simmons
On Wed, 23 Jan 2002, Steve Barney wrote: > > There are quite a few liberal arts math textbooks which include chapters on > Arrow's Theorem and alternative voting methods, weighted voting and > proportional representation. For example, the first 4 chapters, which make up > the first section of

Re: [EM] Interesting use of Borda count

2002-01-23 Thread Steve Barney
Bart: There are quite a few liberal arts math textbooks which include chapters on Arrow's Theorem and alternative voting methods, weighted voting and proportional representation. For example, the first 4 chapters, which make up the first section of Tannenbaum and Arnold's _Excursions in Modern Ma

Re: [EM] Interesting use of Borda count

2002-01-08 Thread Bart Ingles
Of course. Isn't it ironic that most multi-seat local elections, at least in California, use something similar to approval voting, while the single-vote plurality used in single seat elections is logically equivalent to cumulative voting. Bart Forest Simmons wrote: > > I assume that you are

Re: [EM] Interesting use of Borda count

2002-01-07 Thread Forest Simmons
I assume that you are not advocating cumulative voting for single winner elections, but are saying that Tom's idea might be a good way to get proportional representation in multi-winner elections. Forest On Sat, 5 Jan 2002, Bart Ingles wrote: > > > Forest Simmons wrote: > > > > Bart, > >

Re: [EM] Interesting use of Borda count

2002-01-05 Thread Bart Ingles
Forest Simmons wrote: > > Bart, > > this discussion reminds me of the time Tom Ruen was toying with the idea > of modifying Approval by requiring all of the approved candidates on one > ballot to share one vote equally, i.e. if you approve three candidates > they each get one third of your vot

Re: [EM] Interesting use of Borda count

2002-01-05 Thread Forest Simmons
Bart, this discussion reminds me of the time Tom Ruen was toying with the idea of modifying Approval by requiring all of the approved candidates on one ballot to share one vote equally, i.e. if you approve three candidates they each get one third of your vote, a kind of constrained cumulative vot

Re: [EM] Interesting use of Borda count

2002-01-04 Thread Bart Ingles
I don't recall using the term "average ranking". My focus was on average (or total) point counts (i.e. Borda scores), as a way of showing the practical and strategic equivalence among the Borda variations mentioned. Steve Barney wrote: > > Bart: > > OK, I get it now. When I see the term "av

Re: [EM] Interesting use of Borda count

2002-01-04 Thread Steve Barney
Bart: OK, I get it now. When I see the term "average ranking" I think of something other than what you describe. I think you get a more intuitive, and perhaps more descriptive sense of "average ranking" if you do as follows. You average the RANKINGS for each candidate by dividing the sum of the r

Re: [EM] Interesting use of Borda count

2002-01-03 Thread Bart Ingles
ine in PDF > format - see table 2.2 in the bottom half of page 4: > > "EXPLAINING ALL THREE-ALTERNATIVE VOTING OUTCOMES," DONALD G. SAARI > http://www.math.nwu.edu/~d_saari/vote/triple.pdf > > Steve Barney > > > Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2002 21:02:21

Re: [EM] Interesting use of Borda count

2002-01-03 Thread Steve Barney
able 2.2 in the bottom half of page 4: "EXPLAINING ALL THREE-ALTERNATIVE VOTING OUTCOMES," DONALD G. SAARI http://www.math.nwu.edu/~d_saari/vote/triple.pdf Steve Barney > Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2002 21:02:21 -0800 > From: Bart Ingles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >

Re: [EM] Interesting use of Borda count

2002-01-02 Thread Bart Ingles
27;s BC election tally is the sum of her pairwise > tallies. (See Saari, _Basic Geometry of Voting, Springer-Verlag, 1995 > "EXPLAINING ALL THREE-ALTERNATIVE VOTING OUTCOMES," DONALD G. SAARI > http://www.math.nwu.edu/~d_saari/vote/triple.pdf > > > Date: Tue, 01 Jan 2002 15

Re: [EM] Interesting use of Borda count

2002-01-02 Thread Steve Barney
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [EM] Interesting use of Borda count > > I wonder if Bennett's ballot was counted per Borda rules -- i.e. > Bennetts's first choice receiving 10 points, the remaining nine > receiving 5 points each. > > If this were a public elec

Re: [EM] Interesting use of Borda count

2002-01-01 Thread Bart Ingles
I wonder if Bennett's ballot was counted per Borda rules -- i.e. Bennetts's first choice receiving 10 points, the remaining nine receiving 5 points each. If this were a public election held in Florida, Bennett's candidate would have contested the election, claiming that either the election meth

[EM] Interesting use of Borda count

2001-12-31 Thread Anthony Simmons
Interesting use of Borda count. Note that one voter insisted on interpreting it as CR. (There was obviously no strategic reason to vote the way she did.) >> Terrorist attacks top news story in AP poll >> SURVEY: Journalists put Afghan war in No. 2 spot >> David Crary; The Associated Press >