Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Top diagonal window resize

2012-09-18 Thread Sergey "Shnatsel" Davidoff
I'm OK with the Luna behaviour personally. It makes harder to accidentally trigger the maximize or close button. -- Sergey "Shnatsel" Davidoff OS architect @ elementary -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Uns

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Top diagonal window resize

2012-09-18 Thread dkotrada
I use bottom corners for diagonal resizing. 2012/9/18 Sergey "Shnatsel" Davidoff : > I'm OK with the Luna behaviour personally. It makes harder to accidentally > trigger the maximize or close button. > > -- > Sergey "Shnatsel" Davidoff > OS architect @ elementary > > -- > Mailing list: https://l

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Comments on Geary

2012-09-18 Thread Daniel Foré
Yea it definitely is! Those guys are doing awesome work :D Yorba wants to make sure that Geary runs on Ubuntu and Fedora as well as elementary. So with Geary, we may have to do a lot of ifdef type stuff like we're currently doing with Midori in order to get granite support. But I would love to use

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Comments on Geary

2012-09-18 Thread Sergey "Shnatsel" Davidoff
> > But now that we have Granite in Debian it may not be as big of an issue. > Does anyone know if Granite has been uploaded into Fedora's repos? > AFAIR the filterbar is not included in the stable release, or at least it's not documented at http://valadoc.elementaryos.org/Granite/Granite.Widgets.

[Elementary-dev-community] Running App Indicators

2012-09-18 Thread Daniel Foré
Hey Guys, I've seen a few mails/reports about the current lack of running app indicators in Luna. I wanted to get a feel for how people who have been using Luna for a while feel about it. Namely, is this something people are complaining about because they expect it and aren't used to it yet, or is

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Comments on Geary

2012-09-18 Thread Daniel Foré
Right, I know A LOT of work we've done recently wasn't included in the latest stable release. But I think we're due for another Granite release pretty soon, right? On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 8:55 AM, Sergey "Shnatsel" Davidoff < ser...@elementaryos.org> wrote: > But now that we have Granite in Debia

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Running App Indicators

2012-09-18 Thread Sergio Spinatelli
I've been using Luna for quite a bit and i would love to have the option to see the indicators..sometimes it's easier and quicker to just reveal the dock than using the window switcher (i personally don't like hotcorners,i really hate it when i accidentally activate them..)..plus,choice is always g

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Running App Indicators

2012-09-18 Thread Sergey "Shnatsel" Davidoff
I'd prefer to keep the indicators for now. I'd be glad to personally send them to /dev/null as soon as we have https://blueprints.launchpad.net/elementaryos/+spec/memory-lending, but until that's done I have to keep my eyes open for memory and I/O hogs, even with zramswap. Since expo shows only win

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Running App Indicators

2012-09-18 Thread Cody Garver
I end up with 3 or 4 browser windows with the same tabs open because I lose them. Maybe this could be avoided if Plank un-minimized windows on icon click instead of keeping them minimized. On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 11:26 AM, Sergey "Shnatsel" Davidoff < ser...@elementaryos.org> wrote: > I'd prefer

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Running App Indicators

2012-09-18 Thread Sergey "Shnatsel" Davidoff
2012/9/18 Cody Garver > I end up with 3 or 4 browser windows with the same tabs open because I > lose them. Maybe this could be avoided if Plank un-minimized windows on > icon click instead of keeping them minimized. > +1, I'd like Plank to switch windows instead of minimizing them on clicking t

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Running App Indicators

2012-09-18 Thread satch...@gmail.com
+1. In fact, I'd go one step further and propose that elementary take the lead in adopting the (IMO, much needed) one-application-one-window paradigm. Things get incredibly confusing and cluttered with a whole mess of windows. If not, the minimise/unminimise thing makes most sense (though, again, w

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Running App Indicators

2012-09-18 Thread Sergey "Shnatsel" Davidoff
2012/9/18 satch...@gmail.com > +1. In fact, I'd go one step further and propose that elementary take the > lead in adopting the (IMO, much needed) one-application-one-window > paradigm. Things get incredibly confusing and cluttered with a whole mess > of windows. If not, the minimise/unminimise t

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Running App Indicators

2012-09-18 Thread Voldyman
> Luna is so good on resources that it hardly matters if an app is open or not > and you can easily see if something is open from Gala's Workspace Overview > since minimize isn't part of our regular workflow. Its not a matter of resources but of usability. When ever i have more windows/applicat

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Running App Indicators

2012-09-18 Thread Craig
Ill have to think on that more, but on first thought I think it's a good idea to indicate them on the launcher as the presence of a running app changes the behavior of that particular launcher. (Launching a new window versus focusing on an existing one). Spatial concerns can be addressed by using

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] OEM Installation mode

2012-09-18 Thread Craig
How do we test clean installs? I've noticed virtualbox can't seem to read eOS isos. On Sep 17, 2012 4:43 PM, "Sergey "Shnatsel" Davidoff" < ser...@elementaryos.org> wrote: > Hey Alex, > > All patches are properly propagated now. Please test OEM installation and > report results. > > 2012/8/27 Serg

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] OEM Installation mode

2012-09-18 Thread Sergey "Shnatsel" Davidoff
> > How do we test clean installs? I've noticed virtualbox can't seem to read > eOS isos. > Why am I not surprised? Use VMware Player or make LiveUSBs using Ubuntu's built-in usb-creator (in case you don't use ubuntu, run isohybrid on the ISO and dd it to a USB thumb). -- Sergey "Shnatsel" Davido

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] OEM Installation mode

2012-09-18 Thread Cassidy James
I've gotten VirtualBox to load the latest ISO; not sure what the issue is. :-/ Regards, Cassidy James -- Sent from *elementary OS* . On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 5:07 PM, Sergey "Shnatsel" Davidoff < ser...@elementaryos.org> wrote: > How do we test clean installs? I've no

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Running App Indicators

2012-09-18 Thread ttosttos Sa
+1 on running app indicators unless a simple, _mouse only_ expose for app windows is available (e.g. long hover over dock icon exposing running screens). There are useful apps that don't support tabs and, even for those that do, you may still want to run multiple windows with different parameters

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] OEM Installation mode

2012-09-18 Thread ttosttos Sa
I rarely run into issues loading elementary ISOs on VBox. Last one, I tried was 9/5 w/o any issues. ttosttos -- On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 2:15 PM, Craig wrote: > How do we test clean installs? I've noticed virtualbox can't seem to read > eOS isos. > On Sep 17, 2012 4:43 PM, "Sergey "Shnatsel" Da

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] OEM Installation mode

2012-09-18 Thread Craig
I'll admit the only one I tried was 9/14. Shame on me for assuming it was a persistent virtual box problem. :) On Sep 18, 2012 6:42 PM, "ttosttos Sa" wrote: > I rarely run into issues loading elementary ISOs on VBox. Last one, I > tried was 9/5 w/o any issues. > > ttosttos > -- > > On Tue, Sep 1

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] OEM Installation mode

2012-09-18 Thread Sergey "Shnatsel" Davidoff
I'm glad it works in VirtualBox sometimes, but you'd better avoid using it for Linux guests, especially for testing purposes. Its guest additions are known to cause weird issues and crashes all over the system (see http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=OTk5Mw) and without guest additio

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] OEM Installation mode

2012-09-18 Thread Darcy Brás da Silva
I use qemu, and for graphical frontend aqemu ... as long you have support for KVM module you are good to go. Works 10/10 times for me On Wed, 2012-09-19 at 04:59 +0400, Sergey "Shnatsel" Davidoff wrote: > I'm glad it works in VirtualBox sometimes, but you'd better avoid > using it for Linux guests,

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] OEM Installation mode

2012-09-18 Thread Alejandro Morales Lepe
Sergey, I installed the image without problems in a virtual machine (virtualbox) however I was not able to find the setup launcher in the dock, is that a virtualbox issue? seems to be running properly, except that the OEM setup is not working yet, thanks everyone for following this up! - Ale