Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Kits

2013-04-26 Thread Daniel Foré
Hey Ecir, As Craig said, we'd love to have great developer tools available, but sometimes in the world of volunteer software development the going can be a little slow. For now, I'd invite you to please file a separate blueprint for each kit you envision on

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Test Driven Development

2013-04-26 Thread Pál Dorogi
Hi Craig, I agree 100% /w you, but I think you should write some tutorials and post them in your blog, if you have any. But in my opinion that the human beings do not like re-learn things and the real OOP, Design Patterns, SOLID, TDD etc. etc. are very steep and time for a non-real OOP/DP

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Test Driven Development

2013-04-26 Thread Craig
That's exactly what I'd like to know: how can I help. I can try and post some tutorials, but I'd like to know who is interested and what the development community already knows. On Apr 26, 2013 6:39 AM, Pál Dorogi pal.dor...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Craig, I agree 100% /w you, but I think you

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Test Driven Development

2013-04-26 Thread Cassidy James
I don't think we need any convincing; everything I've heard from the devs is that we need to do this. It's just a matter of figuring out a common way of doing it. Craig, a relatively small/new project that could use testing is the new Scratch or even the new work going on with Contractor. Both

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Test Driven Development

2013-04-26 Thread Jaap Broekhuizen
I also think implementing Behavorial testing (applying BDD) is very relevant for us, as we are focussing a lot on user interface and interaction. So imo we should start on a project which we can use as a playground for both unit an behavorial testing. Does anyone know of good vala bdd

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Test Driven Development

2013-04-26 Thread Craig
I agree wholeheartedly. And as Cassidy mentioned, we can use scratch as the incubation project. Would any devs be interested in volunteering to learn? Jaap, would you be interested in helping instruct? On Apr 26, 2013 3:25 PM, Jaap Broekhuizen jaap...@gmail.com wrote: I also think implementing