- Original Message -
From: "Drew Adams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Why not let the menu-bar menu have entries for working with the
"current
> option". The "current option" could be that where the point is. (I
> implemented this kind of functionality in my proposal long ago for a
>
> >
> > I could not find leim-21.4.tar.gz (I know that leim was
> > not affected by that change). Should we use leim-21.3.tar.gz
> > with emacs-21.4.tar.gz?
> >
> > Why not?
>
> Older releases bring leim-M.N.tar.gz with same version number.
> leim-21.3.tar.gz is exaracted to
> (1) The function name "wdired-change-to-wdired-mode" is bizarre; why
> not just `wdired-mode' Is there another way one is supposed to
> enter it?
If it behaved like a minor mode, that would make sense. But it behaves more
like a major mode right now, so it makes sense to have a separate c
> Maybe another approach is to limit the buffers that are considered to some
> set of major modes, or to some subtree of the filesystem. But neither seems
> quite practical.
>
> Another alternative could be to handle the files/buffers "slowly", with
> a 0.5s delay between each file/buffer, s
Hi,
I posted the following yesterday but I am not sure if it made it to the
list.
Sorry if it did post but noone chose to comment.
Thanks for all the responses to my proposed patch. Autorevert doesn't quite
do
what Lennart and I want because it is not deterministic, i.e., depends on
some
freque
On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 20:16:02 -0500, Stefan Monnier
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I guess post-command-hook is the closest thing.
It gets used way too much though -- we shouldn't be sticking all kinds
of random crap on post-command-hook...
-Miles
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On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 15:12:45 -0500, Stefan Monnier
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Why does wdired allow self-insertion?
> > Is there a good reason for it?
> > If not, it would seem to be a bug.
>
> The whole purpose of wdired is to allow you to edit your directory (file
> names, permissions, ...)
Sun Yijiang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Yes, I can change the default icon when I create a new frame:
> (make-frame '((name . "testf") (icon-type . "/path/test.png")))
>
> But I cannot change a frame's icon by modifying its icon-type parameter:
> (set-frame-parameter my-frame 'icon-type "/path/t
Yes, I can change the default icon when I create a new frame:
(make-frame '((name . "testf") (icon-type . "/path/test.png")))
But I cannot change a frame's icon by modifying its icon-type parameter:
(set-frame-parameter my-frame 'icon-type "/path/test2.png")
Nothing happens after this under GNOME
>> Would it be possible to "do it in the background", maybe?
> I'm not sure what you mean. GDB runs asynchronously from Emacs, so all
> commands sent to it *do* run in the background. Maybe, because there is
> so much input and output, you can't get the prompt so it feels like its
> running in f
Richard Stallman wrote:
The concept of "exiting" does not make sense for a Custom buffer, but
there could be a buffer-wide Activate command, "Put this in effect",
which combines Set and Save. If that were the only way to make values
take effect, it would be a lot simpler than the curr
Kim Storm wrote:
Most often, I just customize a specific variable or face,
So do I.
So I use the "whole-buffer" action buttons at the top of the
customize buffer.
I personally do not see the need to go to the top of the buffer to do
that, if you have a button right next to you. (In la
Miles Bader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Mon, 14 Feb 2005 13:26:46 +0100, David Kastrup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> At least the X11 tooltips on Emacs provide no functionality
>> whatsoever except popping up some text in a single font AFAICS. No
>> face support, no clickable areas, nothing.
At Tue, 15 Feb 2005 12:28:32 -0500,
Richard Stallman wrote:
>
> I could not find leim-21.4.tar.gz (I know that leim was
> not affected by that change). Should we use leim-21.3.tar.gz
> with emacs-21.4.tar.gz?
>
> Why not?
Older releases bring leim-M.N.tar.gz with same version number.
Luc Teirlinck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I would guess that the whole-buffer
> buttons are _very_ seldom used. It is much safer and much more
> convenient to set or save options one by one.
My "guess" is exactly the opposite...
Most often, I just customize a spe
Richard Stallman wrote:
One possible solution for that is to discourage, or even get rid of,
of the per-variable command button.
I use Custom extensively. The per-variable command buttons are the
_only_ ones I use. Getting rid of them would make Custom unusable in
as far as I am concerned
Stefan Monnier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Although Gnus did not literally *eat* my email, I find this problem to be
> very serious since it might make me miss important email messages.
Agreed.
> - .../trunk/src/emacs --eval '(setq imap-debug t nnimap-debug t)' -f gnus
> - type in my imap pass
Richard Stallman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Yuk. The problem is that this buffer is not only processed by
> preview-latex, but also by AUCTeX, and the versions that get combined
> may be different. AUCTeX uses the source code buffer's file encoding
> by default, which is fine
On Tue, Feb 15 2005, Richard Stallman wrote:
> It seems to be related to Richards recent changes to cus-start.el. A
> possible workaround (I don't know how to fix it properly) is to revert
> lisp/cus-start.el to revision 1.64 (or 1.65?).
>
> When there is a bug, please do not be so qu
> I see a significant delay when I start M-x gdb, where the *gdb*
> buffer is shown with most of the gdb's startup output displayed, except for
> the prompt. After about 10s, the prompt finally shows up.
>
> I suspect it's due to the new feature "go through all buffers and ask the
> gdb sub
I have now verified the abort also in Linux. The abort happens when
invoking outline-minor-mode 'show-all' after a previous 'hide-body',
when part of the buffer is not visible (scrolled). The abort only
happens when using keys, not when invoking with 'M-x show-all'.
The steps to trigger this
> There seems to be an irritating interaction between gdb and the gdb
> modes in current CVS Emacs (gdb and gdba).
What version of gdb are you using?
Do you mean the you have two sessions running concurrently, one started
with M-x gdb and the other M-x gdba?
Note that the default for M-x gdb
> - A context-sensitive menu (e.g. mouse-3)
I any proposal of this kind I think it is important to give the
possibility to use only the keyboard. Some people do not want
to use the mouse and some simply can not use it.
That's standard practice: there should be keyboard access to
> Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 09:53:40 +0100 (CET)
> From: "Stephan Stahl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED],
> emacs-devel@gnu.org
>
> I'm not the OP but using Miles Example and C-x C-e'ing it seems fast
> enough and takes about half a second on an
> Why does wdired allow self-insertion?
> Is there a good reason for it?
> If not, it would seem to be a bug.
The whole purpose of wdired is to allow you to edit your directory (file
names, permissions, ...) directly with self-insert-command, so it's not at
all a bug.
Stefan
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Richard Stallman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Shouldn't it use default-boundp?
>
> *** cus-start.el 15 Feb 2005 01:22:16 -0500 1.67
> --- cus-start.el 15 Feb 2005 02:36:28 -0500
> ***
> *** 312,318
> ;; use the current value as the standard value.
>
- Original Message -
From: "Drew Adams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> In sum:
>
> - Global buttons and the menu-bar menu apply to all options in the
buffer.
> Their item names include the word "All".
>
> - A context-sensitive menu (e.g. mouse-3) lets you mark and unmark
options
> and perform Sa
Maybe the following is better. The state does occur, there are plenty
of variables without defcustom, it just does normally not occur in a
Custom buffer (unless you do something special):
;;There is no standard value. This means that the variable was
;;not defined with defcustom. In new
I said:
We might want to let users select a set of individual options
(e.g. using checkboxes or by dragging a region) and then
operate on the selection. That would provide a shortcut to
operating individually on each item in the set, and could help
make it clear which options w
> M-x customize-option RET aha RET
>
> says: [No match]. I do not get a Custom buffer with 'aha marked as rogue.
Customize was designed to work on all variables, declared with
customize or not. Pretty much needed back when nothing was declared
with customize. Apparently someo
I suppose Benjamin is too busy lately.
Tue, 8 Feb 2005 01:04:32 -0800: "Jason Rumney" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Tak Ota <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > Is there any reason why this patch cannot make into CVS? I really
> > wish it be a part of the next release.
>
> The last mail I have reg
The big problem is that if the user sets option X on a page and does
"F => C", and then (sometime later) sets option Y on the same
page, and then does "F => C,S", the effect is that the change
to X is also saved. This may be highly confusing to a user.
This is co
(each entry here is (1) proposed text, (2) state, (3) current
text, (4) doc string text from `custom-magic-alist'):
The entries you give for (4) to not seem to correspond either to
today's recent or yesterday's values of `custom-magic-alist'.
No, they are older - sorry for a
Yuk. The problem is that this buffer is not only processed by
preview-latex, but also by AUCTeX, and the versions that get combined
may be different. AUCTeX uses the source code buffer's file encoding
by default, which is fine for basically unibyte based coding systems.
It sounds
I could not find leim-21.4.tar.gz (I know that leim was
not affected by that change). Should we use leim-21.3.tar.gz
with emacs-21.4.tar.gz?
Why not?
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I have attempted to proofread man/dired.texi.
L22: dired-x is mentioned. I think "wdired" should be mentioned as
well.
L16: Not consistent with the "wdired" minor mode, in which characters
do insert.
If wdired is inconsistent with dired, I would rather change wdired.
It is le
It seems to be related to Richards recent changes to cus-start.el. A
possible workaround (I don't know how to fix it properly) is to revert
lisp/cus-start.el to revision 1.64 (or 1.65?).
When there is a bug, please do not be so quick to suggest "let's
revert the previous change" as a
Shouldn't it use default-boundp?
*** cus-start.el15 Feb 2005 01:22:16 -0500 1.67
--- cus-start.el15 Feb 2005 02:36:28 -0500
***
*** 312,318
;; use the current value as the standard value.
standard (if (nthcdr 4 this)
> Is it reasonable to operate with decode-coding-string on a multibyte
> string? If that is nonsense, maybe we should make it get an error,
> to help people debug such problems.
I think it would indeed make sense to signal errors when decoding
a multibyte string or when encoding a unibyte string.
> Just a small bit. In X11 a lot of windows are created (every button, menu,
> etc. are separate windows), and X11 is fast when it comes to window
> creation. And in any case, we would have to apply the frame parameters
> again (font, color and such) and that still takes some time. They could als
I find that Esc and TAB keys are
close enough to make typing Esc TAB a simple enough operation.
...I am used to Esc TAB, and don't find it hard to reach.
ESC TAB is `complete-symbol'.
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Sun Yijiang wrote:
GNU Emacs' bitmapicon is a little ugly and not configurable -- that's
the truth. XEmacs' elisp function x-set-screen-icon-pixmap can change
program icon dynamically, this is very useful when you're working with
sevral frames with different major modes -- they can have their own
I see a significant delay when I start M-x gdb, where the *gdb*
buffer is shown with most of the gdb's startup output displayed, except for
the prompt. After about 10s, the prompt finally shows up.
I suspect it's due to the new feature "go through all buffers and ask the
gdb subprocess whether i
Hi, in the course of preparing a lecture about AUCTeX, I am also going
through the menus. Now making screenshots (which are necessarily of
low quality) of the menus is not too nice, and when making diagrams
with one menu and its submenus connected by arrows, things get ugly.
It would be nicer to
- Original Message -
From: "Reiner Steib" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Could you be more specific? Most Emacs info nodes use `M-' [1]
> and the tutorial explains that you can use ESC instead of M- (Meta):
...
> I don't think this problem is specific to windows. Probably there are
> a lot of Wi
- Original Message -
From: "Jason Rumney" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> It is probably a bug if focus gained messages from the OS do not set the
> selected frame, but no new Lisp hooks should be needed.
Yes, no hook is needed for this and my idea of using the hook for this was
not the best one.
On Tue, Feb 15 2005, Lennart Borgman wrote:
> Thanks, that is very useful! However there was another point in my original
> message: Info only mention Alt-Tab.
Could you be more specific? Most Emacs info nodes use `M-' [1]
and the tutorial explains that you can use ESC instead of M- (Meta):
,-
Lennart Borgman wrote:
I think this helped me to realize what is happening. I am not quite sure but
I believe this is a good guess:
*** This is where the tooltip window gets created (I did not check further
to see if it where reused, but the timings suggests to me it is not):
- Original Message -
From: "Stephan Stahl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> But C-x 5 2 seems to do this too. The frame gets the focus and is shown
on
> top of all other windows. But there still seems to be a difference since
> Alt-tab makes popups go wrong while C-x 5 2 does not.. I do not know
"Lennart Borgman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> The citation below is from nxml-mode.info. Is this something that should be
> adopted generally in Emacs?
>
> "The traditional GNU Emacs key combination for completion in a buffer
> is `M-'. However, many window systems and window managers use this
>
- Original Message -
From: "Johan Bockgård" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> "Lennart Borgman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > From: "Miles Bader" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> >> Note that this can also be typed using `ESC TAB', which is pretty
> >> convenient (the ESC and TAB keys are almost next t
There seems to be an irritating interaction between gdb and the gdb
modes in current CVS Emacs (gdb and gdba).
When I set a breakpoint, gdb prints out something like this:
(gdb) break explode
Breakpoint 2 at 0xb7ce73e2: file explode.c, line 241.
and much the same with --annotate=3 and GDB/MI. i
"Lennart Borgman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> From: "Miles Bader" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>> Note that this can also be typed using `ESC TAB', which is pretty
>> convenient (the ESC and TAB keys are almost next to one another).
>
> Unfortunately this does not work with viper-mode. Another problem
Stephan Stahl wrote:
Now try doing the same thing but using C-x 5 o to switch the frames will
cause the popup to work just fine. Does C-x 5 o some thing special
compared to Alt-tab?
It gives focus to an Emacs window. The same is seen if you switch focus
by click
Hi Jason.
Jason Rumney said:
> Stephan Stahl wrote:
>>Now try doing the same thing but using C-x 5 o to switch the frames will
>>cause the popup to work just fine. Does C-x 5 o some thing special
>>compared to Alt-tab?
>>
> It gives focus to an Emacs window. The same is seen if you switch focus
Stephan Stahl wrote:
I'd like to provide some findings regarding the strange focus
handling:
emacs -q --no-site-init
C-x 2
C-x b bla (make it easy to recognise the two frames)
put the mouse on the toolbar to create a popup works fine.
Alt-Tab (using XP to switch frames)
put the mouse on
Richard Stallman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> This is a bit strange as outline-regexp doesn't match
> ";;;###autoload". Shall I commit the patch below?
>
> Does this change give improved behavior in any particular case?
> If so, which case?
>
> What happens if you add ;;;###autoload to o
Richard Stallman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > (setq output (decode-coding-string output
> > buffer-file-coding-system))
>
> And this decode-coding-string treats the internal byte sequence
> of a multibyte string OUTPUT as utf-8, thus you get some
> ga
Hi.
Eli Zaretskii said:
> I don't know. How about if the OP tells us how much time it takes for
> the tooltip to pop up, and what machine is that?
I'm not the OP but using Miles Example and C-x C-e'ing it seems fast
enough and takes about half a second on an P4 2,4GHz running XP.
(x-show-ti
* David Kastrup (2005-02-14) writes:
> Ralf Angeli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>> But I guess there are more pressing things to do for the next
>> release.
>
> I agree where matters of prettiness are involved. However, where
> usability is concerned, where the tip interferes with the workflow,
Luc Teirlinck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Or does it mean that there is no defcustom?
Yes.
> I have the impression
> that Custom completely _ignores_ variables without defcustom. To try
> I put:
>
> '(aha "oho")
>
> in my `custom-set-variables' form and Custom seems to completely ignore it
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