Re: Can't isearch =?iso-8859-1?q?=27=F6=27?=

2005-04-17 Thread Kenichi Handa
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Stefan Monnier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> No, I can't. But shouldn't we avoid such an incompatible >> change at this stage? > Can be. But since it's about a year now since we called a freeze and I see > no sign of getting to the pretest stage, I figure I do

Re: buffer-offer-save, gnus and mh-e

2005-04-17 Thread Bill Wohler
Luc Teirlinck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Bill Wohler wrote: > >Just to be sure I'm understanding correctly, you'd like to see the >following code in mh-e.el:(mh-folder-mode), right? > > (if (or mh-xemacs-flag (< emacs-major-version 22)) >(setq buffer-offer-save t)) > > Pl

Re: Can't isearch 'รถ'

2005-04-17 Thread Stefan Monnier
> No, I can't. But shouldn't we avoid such an incompatible > change at this stage? Can be. But since it's about a year now since we called a freeze and I see no sign of getting to the pretest stage, I figure I don't understand enough what "feature freeze" means: I just propose changes and I'll l

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2005-04-17 Thread Kenichi Handa
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Stefan Monnier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >>> Hmm... indeed the translation-table-for-input is not used for X11 keys. >>> Now that I look at it a bit more, I think the patch below would make sense. >>> What do other people think? >> That doesn't work in some c

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Re: C-f in isearch's non-incremental minibuffer edit

2005-04-17 Thread Stefan Monnier
> "Richard" == Richard Stallman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Could you tell me, at the level of user-visible behavior, how its >> currently differs from the usual history functionality? > No. It basically works the same, although maybe it doesn't skip > things in quite the same ord

Re: desktop.el not playing nice

2005-04-17 Thread Lennart Borgman
- Original Message - From: "David Kastrup" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > What do people like best: > > 1. Just change --no-desktop to disabel desktop-save-mode. > > That. Other effects are too confusing to warrant a separate option: > you can achieve them by setting variables manually. > > H

Re: desktop.el not playing nice

2005-04-17 Thread David Kastrup
Lars Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Stephan Stahl wrote: > >> Specify the option `--no-desktop' on the command line when you don't >>want it to reload any saved desktop. >> >> > IMHO this describes clearly what the --no-desktop flag does. But you > may be right the the flag should do som

Re: desktop.el not playing nice

2005-04-17 Thread Lars Hansen
Stephan Stahl wrote: Specify the option `--no-desktop' on the command line when you don't want it to reload any saved desktop. IMHO this describes clearly what the --no-desktop flag does. But you may be right the the flag should do something different. I can make --no-desktop disabel desktop

Re: buffer-offer-save, gnus and mh-e

2005-04-17 Thread Luc Teirlinck
Bill Wohler wrote: Just to be sure I'm understanding correctly, you'd like to see the following code in mh-e.el:(mh-folder-mode), right? (if (or mh-xemacs-flag (< emacs-major-version 22)) (setq buffer-offer-save t)) Please wait a little bit with this. After taking a closer loo

Re: Possible change to startup.el

2005-04-17 Thread David Kastrup
Richard Stallman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > The interface that has been proposed is defined so as to make > > complete informatoin available about what is or isn't > > supported. That makes it so complex to implement--to complex > > to be considered for now, and undesirable e

Re: buffer-offer-save, gnus and mh-e

2005-04-17 Thread Bill Wohler
Luc Teirlinck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From my previous message: > >But should mail buffers not set buffer-offer-save to t, because >otherwise the user might loose work if inadvertently exiting Emacs? > > Or mybe mh-e already prevents that in a different way (other than just > autosa

Re: Possible change to startup.el

2005-04-17 Thread Richard Stallman
> The interface that has been proposed is defined so as to make > complete informatoin available about what is or isn't supported. > That makes it so complex to implement--to complex to be considered > for now, and undesirable even for later. I can't quite see why having comple

Re: should xterm-mouse-mode be on by default?

2005-04-17 Thread Richard Stallman
Shall I go ahead and undo the part of my changes that enabled it by default? Yes, please do. ___ Emacs-devel mailing list Emacs-devel@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-devel

Re: C-f in isearch's non-incremental minibuffer edit

2005-04-17 Thread Richard Stallman
> Could you tell me, at the level of user-visible behavior, how its > currently differs from the usual history functionality? No. It basically works the same, although maybe it doesn't skip things in quite the same order. Could you show me that patch again? The code you're remov

Re: buffer-offer-save, gnus and mh-e

2005-04-17 Thread Luc Teirlinck
>From my previous message: But should mail buffers not set buffer-offer-save to t, because otherwise the user might loose work if inadvertently exiting Emacs? Or mybe mh-e already prevents that in a different way (other than just autosaving, which may not have saved the very latest version)

Re: buffer-offer-save, gnus and mh-e

2005-04-17 Thread Luc Teirlinck
Bill Wohler wrote: I'm a little confused by this since mh-folder-mode extends fundamental-mode. I believe that I indeed got confused. I am not very familiar with mh-e. I use mail-mode myself. The normal mode for mail buffers in mh-e appears to be mh-letter-mode. That one does not appear

Re: buffer-offer-save, gnus and mh-e

2005-04-17 Thread Bill Wohler
Luc Teirlinck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I plan to make buffer-offer-save a permanent local. Luc Teirlinck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The solution for that is to set buffer-offer-save to t in > `compose-mail' and no longer set it in the individual mail modes. I > checked that this works for

Re: desktop.el not playing nice

2005-04-17 Thread Robert J. Chassell
Stephan Stahl asks Maybe --no-desktop should disable desktop-save-mode? Yes. I have run into the same problem: when I start an instance of Emacs with --no-desktop, I want neither to use nor to alter my saved desktop. I want that instance of Emacs to ignore my ~/.emacs.desktop file entirely.

Emacs CVS on OSX Tiger (10.4)

2005-04-17 Thread GMail
Hi All, It appears that 10.4 has changed enough compared to 10.3.x to break Emacs. Pre-compiled packages built for 10.3.x break during startup, so I tried compiling from source. I ran into a couple of problems which I was able to work around, but without really knowing what I was doing, probab

Re: desktop.el not playing nice

2005-04-17 Thread David Kastrup
"Stephan Stahl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > --no-desktop and saving could overwrite my old desktop file. I work > around this by starting > > emacs --no-desktop --eval "(customize-set-variable 'desktop-enable > nil)" > > but this seems like a pitfall for emacs starters. Maybe > --no-desktop sh

buffer-offer-save, gnus and mh-e

2005-04-17 Thread Luc Teirlinck
I plan to make buffer-offer-save a permanent local. This already has Richard's approval. It means that it will, as a matter of principle, no longer be appropriate for major modes to set buffer-offer-save, regardless of whether doing so produces any concrete user visible bugs. Grepping shows that

desktop.el not playing nice

2005-04-17 Thread Stephan Stahl
Hi. I found that info/emacs-5 is not totaly clear about desktop.el Currently is says: -- You can save the desktop manually with the command `M-x desktop-save'. You can also enable automatic desktop saving when you exit Emacs: use the Customization buffer (*note Easy Customization::)

Re: Possible change to startup.el

2005-04-17 Thread David Kastrup
[proposal was IIRC:] (menu-string-displayable-p STRING &optional DISPLAY) Richard Stallman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > For example, AUCTeX has an option that will enable the use of Unicode > math characters in menus. How can I know when to enable it by > default? I need to know