Re: Adding missing copyright years

2005-05-04 Thread David Kastrup
Richard Stallman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > One thing that needs doing before the release > is to add the newer years in copyright notices. > > Can people please volunteer to do this for parts of the distribution? > For instance, you could pick a subdir of lisp and do that subdir. This can't b

Re: lispref/frames.texi and xmenu.c

2005-05-04 Thread Luc Teirlinck
Richard Stallman wrote: I think that assumption is not true. From reading the code, x-popup-dialog ALWAYS quits if the user doesn't make a valid choice. That is good, since it gives a lot more consistent behavior. What about the following patches, which take this into account? ===File ~/

Re: [h-e-w] Re: Emacs-21.3-5 msi installer

2005-05-04 Thread Robinows
From help-emacs-windows (a discussion about a Windows installer):   In a message dated 5/4/2005 6:57:24 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Brian Elmegaard wrote:>> Works like a charm, Rex.>> >> I have the following suggestions to be put in default.el:>> (setenv "HOM

Re: Adding missing copyright years

2005-05-04 Thread Kenichi Handa
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Richard Stallman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > One thing that needs doing before the release > is to add the newer years in copyright notices. > Can people please volunteer to do this for parts of the distribution? > For instance, you could pick a subdir of lisp an

Re: bootstrap from scratch

2005-05-04 Thread Marcelo Toledo
"Robert J. Chassell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Today, I removed *all* my Emacs' CVS sources using `rm -rf emacs' and > checked out fresh sources. The `59 Temple Place' zipcode is now > correct. My earlier report was based on a damaged set of sources. > Please ignore it. > > Since I had new s

Re: bootstrap from scratch

2005-05-04 Thread Ed Reingold
> Perhaps `calendar-latitude' and `calendar-longitude' should be set to > 0.0 rather than nil by defcustom. (I have done that, but tested it > only with a `make recompile', since I do not want to do a bootstrap > again.) Very bad idea. Then a user will never know that the times of events (solar/

Re: Incompatible change without "warning"

2005-05-04 Thread Richard Stallman
There is probably no sense in declaring a variable an obsolete alias if it does not even work! I agree. I think we should add a compatibility layer with the old interface (can't be much more than three lines or so) that we'll remove with 23.1 or so.

Re: a problem of emacs-21.3 on FreeBSD-ia64

2005-05-04 Thread Richard Stallman
I think this is a problem of gcc on FreeBSD/ia64, not of emacs, isn't it? It could be. Please try the latest GCC version, and if it still fails, please send a GCC bug report. ___ Emacs-devel mailing list Emacs-devel@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/ma

Re: /lib/cpp not found in c-mode

2005-05-04 Thread Richard Stallman
> As long as that is the case, it should not be terribly hard to specify > that info for the whole directory, and thus make c-macro-expand work. Could be, although I don't know of any mechanism to do that right now. I could imagine putting a special file in the directory, or a hint sp

Checking the manuals

2005-05-04 Thread Richard Stallman
There are still files in the manuals that have not been updated. Would people please work on this? This job needs to be done in order to make the release. ___ Emacs-devel mailing list Emacs-devel@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-deve

Re: lispref/frames.texi and xmenu.c

2005-05-04 Thread Richard Stallman
My text assumes that in situations where `x-popup-dialog' has to actually use a menu instead of a dialog box, doing M-: (x-popup-dialog (read-event) '("PANE" ("LINE1" . 1))) then clicking the mouse to make the menu pop up and then getting rid of that menu without making a vali

Adding missing copyright years

2005-05-04 Thread Richard Stallman
One thing that needs doing before the release is to add the newer years in copyright notices. Can people please volunteer to do this for parts of the distribution? For instance, you could pick a subdir of lisp and do that subdir. ___ Emacs-devel mailin

"Update Speedbar"

2005-05-04 Thread Richard Stallman
One item in admin/FOR-RELEASE is "Update Speedbar". Does anyone know what updating is called for in Speedbar? ___ Emacs-devel mailing list Emacs-devel@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-devel

hourglass atimer suppression on ttys

2005-05-04 Thread Thien-Thi Nguyen
any objections to the following? is not the glass tty enough of an hour-defining silicon-based measure of time? why interrupt w/ this when one could interrupt w/ that? thi *** xfns.c 18 Mar 2005 21:20:29 - 1.637 --- xfns.c 4 May 2005 21:14:15 - *** *** 4384,43

Documentation of obsolete declarations and aliases.

2005-05-04 Thread Nick Roberts
> I propose the following doc changes. The main two points are the following. > > Firstly, since the Elisp manual describes the details of how to > declare variables obsolete, should it not also document how to declare > functions obsolete? The patch to lispref/functions.texi does that > w

Re: /lib/cpp not found in c-mode

2005-05-04 Thread Eli Zaretskii
> From: Stefan Monnier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 16:23:40 -0400 > Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org > > > ??? Isn't it a simple matter of looking at the Makefile and passing > > the relevant switches to the preprocessor? If the Makefile is too > > complex to figure out the switches, I us

Re: c-macro-expand isn't part of CC Mode [Was: cpp use in cc-mode is broken]

2005-05-04 Thread Eli Zaretskii
> Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 21:00:50 + (GMT) > From: Alan Mackenzie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org > > `c-macro-expand' actually lives in the file > .../list/progmodes/cmacexp.el. This file was last updated 3 years 8 > months ago by Eli

Re: /lib/cpp not found in c-mode

2005-05-04 Thread Nick Roberts
> > If we added the line below to c-macro-preprocessor would it work then for > > Mac OSX? > > This change is needed for NetBSD as well (and possibly other BSDs). I've now changed the condition to: ((memq system-type '(darwin berkeley-unix)) "gcc -E -C -") If system-type is not berk

bootstrap from scratch

2005-05-04 Thread Robert J. Chassell
Today, I removed *all* my Emacs' CVS sources using `rm -rf emacs' and checked out fresh sources. The `59 Temple Place' zipcode is now correct. My earlier report was based on a damaged set of sources. Please ignore it. Since I had new sources, I could configure and bootstrap build with a complete

Re: RMAIL slows

2005-05-04 Thread Robert J. Chassell
[After running the same RMAIL for several days, deletions slow; but not immediately. Using the `emacs/src/emacs' executable of 2005 Mar 30.] ... figure out which [function] it is. Well, I am not 100% sure which function causes the problem, since sometimes GDB stops in some other function, bu

Re: Tex-mode binding of C-return

2005-05-04 Thread Harald Maier
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kim F. Storm) writes: > In a different thread, I suggested to change CUA's > "toggle rectangle mark" command from S-return to C-return. > > The only real conflict is with Tex-mode which binds > C-return to tex-feed-input which is also on C-c C-m. Just for your info nxml-mode us

Re: HAVE_SYS_SELECT of sysselect.h

2005-05-04 Thread Harald Maier
YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > The following patch seems to fix it, but is there any more elegant > way? I don't think that the file sysselect.h changes very often so the fix herein seems to me the best. The other suggestion to change the name of 'init_process' would cause more

Relation with package authors (CPerl-mode follow-ups)

2005-05-04 Thread =?iso-8859-1?b?Suly9G1l?= Marant
Hi, I've been recently in touch with Ilya Zakharevich (CPerl-mode author) about Cperl-mode bugs I found in current version from Emacs CVS trunk (version 5). He was kind to take a look at them and found out those bugs have already been fixed in 5.0 (I do confirm) and decided to stop investigating

Re: Tex-mode binding of C-return

2005-05-04 Thread Kim F. Storm
Luc Teirlinck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Kim Storm wrote: > >Neither does S-return...Does C-space work on ttys? > > Yes. But S-TAB does not and S-TAB is unfortunately used for TAB in > the inverse direction in tons of spaces in Emacs, which is a nuisance. If I hit S-TAB (GNU/Linux + X

Re: /lib/cpp not found in c-mode

2005-05-04 Thread Nick Roberts
> You'd be better served postponing execution of such a command to the moment > when it's actually needed (i.e. when gud-tooltips are actually being used). > If the user gets an error when she uses gud-tooltips, he won't mind, but if > she gets the error about something that she won't even ever

Re: /lib/cpp not found in c-mode

2005-05-04 Thread Josh Varner
On 5/3/05, Stefan Monnier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Don't know about others, but the reason why I don't use c-macro-expand > > is because it basically can't work right without parsing my > > Makefile(s) to know which include dirs should be used. And since it > > doesn't do tha

FSF address zipcode

2005-05-04 Thread Robert J. Chassell
Today's GNU Emacs CVS snapshot, Wed, 2005 May 4 12:40 UTC has ;; Free Software Foundation, Inc., 59 Temple Place - Suite 330, ! ;; Boston, MA 02110-1301, USA. for the FSF address. According to today's http://www.gnu.org/, the zipcode for 57 Temple Place should be 02111-1307 When will Ema

[PATCH]: minor clarification for building.texi

2005-05-04 Thread Eric Hanchrow
--- building.texi 03 May 2005 10:31:34 -0700 1.55 +++ building.texi 04 May 2005 10:52:11 -0700 @@ -117,8 +117,11 @@ @findex recompile To rerun the last compilation with the same command, type @kbd{M-x -recompile}. This automatically reuses the compilation command from the

Re: Tex-mode binding of C-return

2005-05-04 Thread Andreas Schwab
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kim F. Storm) writes: > Does C-space work on ttys? It's usually the same as C-@, ie. NUL, but AFAIK not all terminals support that. Andreas. -- Andreas Schwab, SuSE Labs, [EMAIL PROTECTED] SuSE Linux Products GmbH, Maxfeldstraße 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany Key fingerprint = 5

Re: Extending GUD tooltips

2005-05-04 Thread =?iso-8859-15?q?J=E9r=F4me_Marant?=
Richard Stallman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > GUD tooltips need some disentangling from the normal tooltips. They're > coded > differently and GUD tooltips shouldn't need tooltip-mode enabled to work: > it > should be possble to toggle them independently. After that is done, it >

[rudalics@gmx.at: enlarge-window with preserve-before non-nil]

2005-05-04 Thread Richard Stallman
Can someone please investigate this, and ack? --- Start of forwarded message --- X-Authenticated: #14592706 Date: Sun, 01 May 2005 14:21:26 +0200 From: martin rudalics <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-Accept-Language: de-DE, de, en-us, en To: emacs-pretest-bug X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Subject: enlarge-win

[dann@ics.uci.edu: grep fontification problem]

2005-05-04 Thread Richard Stallman
Is someone working on this problem? Please tell me if you are. --- Start of forwarded message --- To: emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org From: Dan Nicolaescu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 19:08:42 -0700 X-ICS-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ICS-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam (whitel

Re: Tex-mode binding of C-return

2005-05-04 Thread Luc Teirlinck
Kim Storm wrote: > Yes. But S-TAB does not and S-TAB is unfortunately used for TAB in > the inverse direction in tons of spaces in Emacs, which is a nuisance. If I hit S-TAB (GNU/Linux + X), I get this message: (translated from ) is undefined It is only bound in certain modes.

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Re: Mac: modifier key remapping revised [patch]

2005-05-04 Thread Harald Maier
David Reitter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On 3 May 2005, at 05:56, Harald Maier wrote: > >> The patch is not applicable. It looks that the mail tool added >> additional line breaks. Please can you resend the patch. I like this >> patch a lot. > > http://homepages.inf.ed.ac.uk/dreitter/emacs/mac-

Re: Tex-mode binding of C-return

2005-05-04 Thread Luc Teirlinck
Kim Storm wrote: Does C-space work on ttys? To correct my previous answer: strictly speaking no, but _in practice_, yes. >From `(emacs)Setting Mark': There is no such character as `C-' in ASCII; when you type while holding down on a text terminal, what you get is the character `C-@'. T

Re: Mac: modifier key remapping revised [patch]

2005-05-04 Thread Stefan Monnier
> Since Daniel Brockman suggested that I repost this patch in context format, > there we go. It applies to the current version. Steven Tamm suggested > a while ago that the 'fn' key (on Powerbook keyboards left of the ctrl key) > be included, and I think this would be a very neat idea for someone

Re: Tex-mode binding of C-return

2005-05-04 Thread Luc Teirlinck
Kim Storm wrote: Neither does S-return...Does C-space work on ttys? Yes. But S-TAB does not and S-TAB is unfortunately used for TAB in the inverse direction in tons of spaces in Emacs, which is a nuisance. On ttys S-TAB is normally the same as TAB. You can make tty's recognize these thin

Documentation of obsolete declarations and aliases.

2005-05-04 Thread Luc Teirlinck
I propose the following doc changes. The main two points are the following. Firstly, since the Elisp manual describes the details of how to declare variables obsolete, should it not also document how to declare functions obsolete? The patch to lispref/functions.texi does that with a new node "Ob

Re: /lib/cpp not found in c-mode

2005-05-04 Thread Eli Zaretskii
> From: Stefan Monnier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 18:16:33 -0400 > Cc: "Jan D." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, emacs-devel@gnu.org > > Don't know about others, but the reason why I don't use c-macro-expand is > because it basically can't work right without parsing my Makefile(s) to know >

Re: /lib/cpp not found in c-mode

2005-05-04 Thread Stefan Monnier
>> Don't know about others, but the reason why I don't use c-macro-expand is >> because it basically can't work right without parsing my Makefile(s) to >> know which include dirs should be used. > ??? Isn't it a simple matter of looking at the Makefile and passing > the relevant switches to the pr

mouse-1-click-follows-link: doc, Options menu, customize groups

2005-05-04 Thread Drew Adams
I fired up GNU Emacs 21.3.50.1 (i386-mingw-nt5.1.2600) of 2005-01-30 on NONIQPC and discovered that mouse-1 was now following links. Not remembering the email thread about this, I looked in Emacs itself for how to turn this new behavior off. I didn't find anything about it in the Emacs manual or t

Re: /lib/cpp not found in c-mode

2005-05-04 Thread Nick Roberts
> > OK. I see now. For Emacs, the source seems to have the same flags. So, in > > that case, I guess you could do something like: > > > (setq c-macro-cppflags "-Demacs -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -DUSE_LUCID -I. > > -I/home/nick/emacs/src -D_BSD_SOURCE -I/usr/X11R6/include") > > Except that Emacs is

cc-create-define-alist on w32

2005-05-04 Thread Nick Roberts
> The recently introduced `cc-create-define-alist' causes the following > problem with Emacs on MinGW: When I load a C program into a buffer the > process "/lib/cpp" gets called. However, with MinGW "cpp.exe" is by > default in "...\MinGW\bin\" and an error is reported. and > I'm running e

c-macro-expand isn't part of CC Mode [Was: cpp use in cc-mode is broken]

2005-05-04 Thread Nick Roberts
Alan Mackenzie writes: > >As of a few days ago, the cc-mode in cvs emacs seems to preprocess the > >source file in order to determine the C macros present. Actually to generate a list of #define directives. > Please Note: `c-macro-expand', despite its name, is _NOT_ part of CC > Mode. Its na

Re: lispref/frames.texi and xmenu.c

2005-05-04 Thread Luc Teirlinck
Here are my proposed patches to lispref/frames.texi and xmenu.c. As always, I can install if desired. My text assumes that in situations where `x-popup-dialog' has to actually use a menu instead of a dialog box, doing M-: (x-popup-dialog (read-event) '("PANE" ("LINE1" . 1))) then clicking the m

Re: /lib/cpp not found in c-mode

2005-05-04 Thread Stefan Monnier
> Don't you use the same set of include directories for all, or nearly > all, of the C files in a directory? Yes, of course. The problem is between different directories (different copies of the same project, or different projects). > As long as that is the case, it should not be terribly hard t

Re: cc-create-define-alist on w32

2005-05-04 Thread Eduardo Dominguez
I'm running Mac OSX 10.4. It has both cpp and gcc, both in /usr/bin. Thanks! On 5/3/05, Nick Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > The recently introduced `cc-create-define-alist' causes the following > > problem with Emacs on MinGW: When I load a C program into a buffer the > > process "/

Re: elisp manual format cross references

2005-05-04 Thread Kevin Ryde
One more spot, * display.texi (The Echo Area): Correction to format function cross reference. Index: display.texi === RCS file: /cvsroot/emacs/emacs/lispref/display.texi,v retrieving revision 1.159 diff -u -c -r1.159

c-macro-expand isn't part of CC Mode [Was: cpp use in cc-mode is broken]

2005-05-04 Thread Alan Mackenzie
Hi Tim, Hi Nick, Hi Emacs, Hi Martin! On Fri, 29 Apr 2005, Tim Van Holder wrote: >As of a few days ago, the cc-mode in cvs emacs seems to preprocess the >source file in order to determine the C macros present. Please Note: `c-macro-expand', despite its name, is _NOT_ part of CC Mode. Its name p

Re: Incompatible change without "warning"

2005-05-04 Thread Richard Stallman
Some of these don't seem to be obsoleted correctly, in any case e.g the only reference I can find to desktop-buffer-misc-functions is (make-obsolete-variable 'desktop-buffer-misc-functions 'desktop-save-buffer) i.e desktop-buffer-misc-functions is no lo

Re: /lib/cpp not found in c-mode

2005-05-04 Thread Richard Stallman
Don't know about others, but the reason why I don't use c-macro-expand is because it basically can't work right without parsing my Makefile(s) to know which include dirs should be used. And since it doesn't do that, I've found it of little use. What information would it need in or

Re: /lib/cpp not found in c-mode

2005-05-04 Thread Magnus Henoch
Nick Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > If we added the line below to c-macro-preprocessor would it work then for Mac > OSX? This change is needed for NetBSD as well (and possibly other BSDs). Magnus ___ Emacs-devel mailing list Emacs-devel@gnu.o

Re: /lib/cpp not found in c-mode

2005-05-04 Thread Stefan Monnier
> Don't know about others, but the reason why I don't use c-macro-expand > is because it basically can't work right without parsing my > Makefile(s) to know which include dirs should be used. And since it > doesn't do that, I've found it of little use. > What information would it

Re: emacs-buffer.gdb

2005-05-04 Thread Richard Stallman
This sounds very useful. Can you contribute this to the Emacs distribution? ___ Emacs-devel mailing list Emacs-devel@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-devel

Re: /lib/cpp not found in c-mode

2005-05-04 Thread Stefan Monnier
>> Don't know about others, but the reason why I don't use c-macro-expand is >> because it basically can't work right without parsing my Makefile(s) to know >> which include dirs should be used. And since it doesn't do that, I've found >> it of little use. > OK. I see now. For Emacs, the source s

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Re: Tex-mode binding of C-return

2005-05-04 Thread Stefan Monnier
>>> C-return is such a "good command", analogue to C-SPC for the >>> normal mark. >> I don't find C-return a particularly good choice (especially since it >> doesn't work on ttys). > Neither does S-return... Indeed, so it's not a good choice either. > Does C-space work on ttys? Yes and no: it