Bugs in handling of Alt-key on w32

2005-07-25 Thread Lennart Borgman
I have been trying to get the Alt-key to work for accessing the menus (which is the normal use of it on w32). I think I found a couple of bugs: On w32 start by setting (setq w32-pass-alt-to-system t) (setq w32-alt-is-meta nil) Then try typing for example Alt, f. You can do that in two ways n

Re: Tooltip for menus is shown even when mouse pointer is not over the menu

2005-07-25 Thread Jason Rumney
Lennart Borgman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >>>1) Start with emacs -Q. >>>2) Set tooltip-mode. >>>3) Open the "Options" menu. >>> >>>A tooltip is now shown where the mouse pointer is. >> > Ah, thanks! Sorry, forgot to tell I am using the keyboard to open the menu. Thank you for that important det

Re: emms in Emacs?

2005-07-25 Thread Joakim Verona
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Karl Berry) writes: > The authors of emms (Emacs Multi-Media System) have offered their > package to GNU. As with rcirc, rms and I would like to solicit any > opinions from this group on the package, especially from people who have > actually used it. Here's the link: > http:/

Re: Strange change in bytecmop.el

2005-07-25 Thread David Kastrup
"Richard M. Stallman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Sure. As long as we have code intended to run with XEmacs, calling it > anything but code intended to run with XEmacs would be obfuscate. > > The option we're actually talking about is not obfuscated. > > (if (featurep 'emacs) >

Re: Strange change in bytecmop.el

2005-07-25 Thread Richard M. Stallman
Sure. As long as we have code intended to run with XEmacs, calling it anything but code intended to run with XEmacs would be obfuscate. The option we're actually talking about is not obfuscated. (if (featurep 'emacs) ... ...) ___

Re: Strange change in bytecmop.el

2005-07-25 Thread David Kastrup
"Robert J. Chassell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > David Kastrup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote, > >XEmacs, after all, does meet the criteria of free software. > > Actually and unfortunately, we do not know whether it does. > > Certainly, the main authors intend that. But they have not > collecte

Re: Is tooltip-mode STANDARD on or off?

2005-07-25 Thread Richard M. Stallman
No. -Q is -q --no-site-file with some UI features turned off. I thought it was more than just tooltips, but I don't see anything else right now (toolbar, menu bar, scrollbars and fringe are all still there). I'm not sure why "emacs --help" says it is equivalent to -q --no-site-f

Re: More bugs in Custom themes

2005-07-25 Thread Richard M. Stallman
Very non-trivial questions remain, like how Custom Themes is going to treat hooks and certain list variables. At present, even without Themes, Custom has serious problems handling these, as we discussed earlier. There is no need to worry about it--since they did not work cleanly

Re: Is tooltip-mode STANDARD on or off?

2005-07-25 Thread Richard M. Stallman
I believe that the intended behavior is exactly opposite and that the patch below, which implements the opposite behavior should be installed. Yes, that's the right fix. As it happens I made the same fix after I saw the other message, so it is already installed. But thanks anyway.

[OSX] how to build for an older system ?

2005-07-25 Thread Sébastien Kirche
Hi, I use to build Carbon Emacs on a G4/10.3.9 system (Fink installed). Thanks to Steven Tamm I can build without the Fink shared libs with make-package --self-contained -M,CC=gcc And it executes without problem on more recent systems. For a few days, i have access to a G3/10.4.2 system

Re: More bugs in Custom themes

2005-07-25 Thread Per Abrahamsen
Luc Teirlinck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Sorry for the delay in replying to this. > >Could you please look at the code and see if the design is clear >to you? > > I have not had the time to study things in detail, but the design is > certainly clearer than what it used to be. Very non-

Re: Strange change in bytecmop.el

2005-07-25 Thread Robert J. Chassell
David Kastrup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote, XEmacs, after all, does meet the criteria of free software. Actually and unfortunately, we do not know whether it does. Certainly, the main authors intend that. But they have not collected the legal paperwork necessary to prove it to a hostile court.