Re: emacs & MAXPATHLEN

2005-08-03 Thread David Kastrup
"Richard M. Stallman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Well, it _is_ the "system" in "system call": a "system call" clearly > passes control to Linux. > > Actually it calls libc, and then libc invokes the kernel. Uh no. That is the system call _wrapper_ of the library. The system call itse

Re: info.texi

2005-08-03 Thread Luc Teirlinck
Eli Zaretskii wrote: S-TAB works for me in "emacs -nw" as well. So I'm not sure there is a problem. That means that your terminal can distinguish TAB and S-TAB. Can someone describe a setup in which S-TAB does _not_ work? Using a terminal that can not distinguish. For my (old) version

Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Kill ring leak in winemacs macros]

2005-08-03 Thread Eli Zaretskii
> Date: Wed, 03 Aug 2005 23:41:04 +0200 > From: Lennart Borgman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org > > Stuart D. Herring wrote: > > >>Is not the variable `x-select-enable-clipboard' for this? > >> > >> > > > >No, that enables the use of the X "clipboard selection" in addition to th

Re: grep.el regexp

2005-08-03 Thread Juri Linkov
> After adding the underline attribute to compilation and grep faces > now some non-navigational messages are displayed as links. This is > misleading. Please see examples of such messages in the section > `* Miscellaneous' in etc/compilation.txt, and `* GNU grep 2.5.1: > othe

Re: info.texi

2005-08-03 Thread Eli Zaretskii
> Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2005 21:09:07 -0500 (CDT) > From: Luc Teirlinck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], emacs-devel@gnu.org, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Juri Linkov wrote: > >I just noticed that neither M-TAB, ESC-TAB nor C-M-i moves the cursor >to the previous reference. All t

Strangeness with fringe arrows.

2005-08-03 Thread Luc Teirlinck
I personally enable indicate-empty-lines (to the left) and up and down arrows to the right (but no top or bottom indicators at all, so they will not accidentally hide the arrows). This might seem strange, but after playing around with this stuff to test my defcustom and other things, I have gotten

Grep Searching node in building.texi

2005-08-03 Thread Juri Linkov
I checked the node `Grep Searching' and want to propose the following corrections. I think mentioning the `-nH' option is essential (and also I find the phrase `where there were' too clumsy). Index: man/building.texi === RCS file: /c

Re: unnecessary fringe-indicators defcustom creates trouble

2005-08-03 Thread Luc Teirlinck
>From my previous message: for instance, just using indicate-buffer-boundaries it is impossible to tell whether a buffer is completely empty or whether you are completely overscrolled. To be more concrete, enable all boundary indicators, including arrows, to the left. Create an empty bu

Re: info.texi

2005-08-03 Thread Lennart Borgman
Juri Linkov wrote: Do not forget that this is common documentation for the Emacs and the standalone Info reader. When using the standalone reader (or `emacs -nw'), S-TAB will usually not work (actually, it will usually be equivalent to plain TAB). M-tab may not work either, because it still mi

Re: info.texi

2005-08-03 Thread Juri Linkov
> Do not forget that this is common documentation for the Emacs and the > standalone Info reader. When using the standalone reader (or `emacs -nw'), > S-TAB will usually not work (actually, it will usually be equivalent > to plain TAB). M-tab may not work either, because it still might get > "sto

Re: info.texi

2005-08-03 Thread Luc Teirlinck
Juri Linkov wrote: I just noticed that neither M-TAB, ESC-TAB nor C-M-i moves the cursor to the previous reference. All these keys are bound to `complete-symbol' in Info mode on X, xterm and console. Indeed. I checked it in the standalone reader, where they _do_ work. I forgot to check

Re: info.texi

2005-08-03 Thread Luc Teirlinck
Lennart Borgman wrote: I find it very good that you mention S-Tab. However would it not be better to tell it the other way round. S-Tab is perhaps more common for operations like this and available on more system? Do not forget that this is common documentation for the Emacs and the st

info.el

2005-08-03 Thread Juri Linkov
While updating info.texi, I took the opportunity to fix info.el: 1. Replaced `info' with upper-case `Info' where appropriate. 2. Renamed `info-menu-5' face to `info-menu-star'. 3. Grouped face definitions together. 4. Put the cursor on menu items in the same way as on cross-references, i.e. aft

Re: unnecessary fringe-indicators defcustom creates trouble

2005-08-03 Thread Luc Teirlinck
The patches below keep all the functionality available through the menu bar while getting rid of `fringe-indicators'. They implement some changes, but that is only because I believe that they are very much changes for the better and not because getting rid of `fringe-indicators' requires them. Th

Re: info.texi

2005-08-03 Thread Lennart Borgman
Juri Linkov wrote: --- 674,683 next subtopic line. To move to a previous subtopic line, type @[EMAIL PROTECTED] is, press and hold the @key{META} key and then press @key{TAB}. (On some keyboards, the @key{META} key might be labeled ! @samp{Alt}.) On window systems, which intercept @[E

info.texi

2005-08-03 Thread Juri Linkov
Since updating info.texi is one of the tasks needed to be finished for the next Emacs release, I took on this task, fixed mistakes in the existing manual and documented new features. Please look at the resulted patch below. PS: I also have a proposal on a better node partition in info.texi, but I

Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Kill ring leak in winemacs macros]

2005-08-03 Thread Kevin Rodgers
Stuart D. Herring wrote: > The variables `interprogram-cut-function' and > `interprogram-paste-function' can be set to nil to suppress the > synchronization, but this isn't just a customization issue (as in > "this isn't a problem, you should set X to Y") because the issue only > arises during key

Re: emacs & MAXPATHLEN

2005-08-03 Thread Richard M. Stallman
Well, it _is_ the "system" in "system call": a "system call" clearly passes control to Linux. Actually it calls libc, and then libc invokes the kernel. > It isn't GNU/Linux, but like GNU/Linux, it includes > Linux along with many other programs. Linux is not really a program

Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Kill ring leak in winemacs macros]

2005-08-03 Thread Lennart Borgman
Stuart D. Herring wrote: Is not the variable `x-select-enable-clipboard' for this? No, that enables the use of the X "clipboard selection" in addition to the X "primary selection", and is only relevant on X (not Windows, which has a clipboard but doesn't have "selections"). The variables

Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Kill ring leak in winemacs macros]

2005-08-03 Thread Stuart D. Herring
> Is not the variable `x-select-enable-clipboard' for this? No, that enables the use of the X "clipboard selection" in addition to the X "primary selection", and is only relevant on X (not Windows, which has a clipboard but doesn't have "selections"). The variables `interprogram-cut-function' and

Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Kill ring leak in winemacs macros]

2005-08-03 Thread Lennart Borgman
Stuart D. Herring wrote: I don't entirely understand this, but I suggest that someone who uses Windows read it and DTRT. This doesn't seem to be Windows-specific at all; he says that using the system clipboard while running a (long/repeated) macro that uses Emacs' kill ring loses because

Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Kill ring leak in winemacs macros]

2005-08-03 Thread Stuart D. Herring
> I don't entirely understand this, but I suggest that someone who uses > Windows read it and DTRT. This doesn't seem to be Windows-specific at all; he says that using the system clipboard while running a (long/repeated) macro that uses Emacs' kill ring loses because they're constantly being synch

[EMAIL PROTECTED]: Kill ring leak in winemacs macros]

2005-08-03 Thread Richard M. Stallman
I don't entirely understand this, but I suggest that someone who uses Windows read it and DTRT. --- Start of forwarded message --- Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2005 09:01:18 -0400 X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Kill ring leak in winema

Re: unnecessary fringe-indicators defcustom creates trouble

2005-08-03 Thread Richard M. Stallman
However, if you can design a simpler method that implements the same menu bar options, that would be better. Does that include methods that would get rid of fringe-indicators? Yes, it does. fringe-indicators is a means to an end, which is to make it easy to customize the most c

Re: 22.0.50 SEGFAULT

2005-08-03 Thread JD Smith
On Sun, 31 Jul 2005 01:01:53 +0200, Kim F. Storm wrote: > JD Smith writes: > > GNU Emacs 22.0.50.3 (i686-pc-linux-gnu, X toolkit, Xaw3d scroll bars) of 2005-07-14 on turtle.as.arizona.edu > > Sorry, but I cannot see any reason why it fails from the data you sent me. > > Something tel

Re: widget-choice-action

2005-08-03 Thread Luc Teirlinck
Per Abrahamsen wrote: However, if this is the only reason for :explicit-choice-value, it seems it would be much cleaner to simply erase the :explicit-choice attribute after use. I believe that it should be erased. It seems very bad to leave a property hanging around forever when it is n

Re: emacs & MAXPATHLEN

2005-08-03 Thread David Kastrup
"Richard M. Stallman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Probably, but not certainly: > http://www.skarnet.org/poweredby.html> > > The system running on that machine is not Linux. Well, it _is_ the "system" in "system call": a "system call" clearly passes control to Linux. > It isn't GNU/Linu

Re: doctor.el

2005-08-03 Thread Richard M. Stallman
I've gone for the low-tech solution of adding `defvar' for all the vars that produce warnings (all that are passed to `make-local-variable'). doctor.el is silent, at last. Thank you. ___ Emacs-devel mailing list Emacs-devel@gnu.org http://l

Re: emacs & MAXPATHLEN

2005-08-03 Thread Richard M. Stallman
Probably, but not certainly: http://www.skarnet.org/poweredby.html> The system running on that machine is not Linux. It isn't GNU/Linux, but like GNU/Linux, it includes Linux along with many other programs. ___ Emacs-devel mailing list Emacs-d

Re: widget-choice-action

2005-08-03 Thread Per Abrahamsen
Ok, I think the problem is that the original code try to extract the value of the choosen widget before it has been instantiated in the buffer. When a widget is instantiated, lots of stuff (mostly regarding quoting) can happen which can change its intrinsic value. The reason the the choosen value

Re: Bad value to a defcustom makes choices unavailable

2005-08-03 Thread Per Abrahamsen
Lennart Borgman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Yes, you can use that, but the list of choices does not > appear until next time you run customize. Is not that quite a bit > confusing? Are you saying that it would be hard to redraw the widget in > those cases? No, doing that would be a good idea