Re: w32 does not have emacsclient/server

2005-08-05 Thread Eli Zaretskii
> Date: Sat, 6 Aug 2005 01:10:28 +0200 > From: Juanma Barranquero <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org > > On 8/5/05, Eli Zaretskii <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I use RMAIL, but Gnus should also work. > > Is RMAIL easier to set up than Gnus? MUCH easier. In fact, it doesn't need a

Re: Can't interrupt directory_files_internal run from timer-event-handler

2005-08-05 Thread Eli Zaretskii
> From: "Richard M. Stallman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Fri, 05 Aug 2005 16:38:14 -0400 > Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org > > Alternatively, it could use start-process to run ls asychronously > as a way to find out whether the directory is empty. There's no need to run any program just to know if a dir

Re: Can't interrupt directory_files_internal run fromtimer-event-handler

2005-08-05 Thread Richard M. Stallman
BTW, `while-no-input' and `throw-on-input' are not documented on the Emacs Lisp Reference; and the docstring for `throw-on-input' is suboptimal: while-no-input is in the Lisp manual. throw-on-input is not for users to use; perhaps we should rename it to while-no-input-throw-internal.

Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Kill ring leak in winemacs macros]

2005-08-05 Thread Richard M. Stallman
> Since gdb-ui.el and org.el and tramp are new Also ibuf-ext.el and ses.el. They're not on 21.4. Ok, I wrote to the authors of those packages. We will try to eliminate the uses of defadvice. ___ Emacs-devel mailing list Emacs-devel@gnu.org ht

Re: emacs manual: codepage-setup vs language environ

2005-08-05 Thread Kevin Ryde
Eli Zaretskii <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > The node you quoted is from an appendix that describes the MS-DOS port > of Emacs, which uses codepage.el. Ahh, I didn't spot that. Yes, the heading is "on MS-DOS", but I was there to find out about codepages. The "Coding Systems" node points to "MS-

Re: void symbol: font-lock-keyword-face

2005-08-05 Thread Juri Linkov
> font-lock-keyword-face is void > > I see these messages when I try to load grep: > > Loading /usr/local/src/emacs/lisp/progmodes/grep.el (source)... > eval-buffer: Symbol's value as variable is void: font-lock-keyword-face Since I removed all occurrences of `font-lock-keyword-face' from

Re: battery.el: Rename display-battery-mode to battery-mode?

2005-08-05 Thread Juri Linkov
> I tried to enable battery-mode on my notebook using `M-x battery- TAB' > but I got "No match". Eventually I found `display-battery-mode' in > `battery.el'. Shouldn't the name of the minor mode read > `battery-mode' instead of `display-battery-mode'? Another change to make it easier to enable b

Re: w32 does not have emacsclient/server

2005-08-05 Thread Juanma Barranquero
On 8/6/05, Lennart Borgman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yes times are tough > not to lose > we must be rough > follow rules Very funny. Still... Would someone *please* try and comment the changes? Or is there no interest on an emacs client/server accessible across the network and Windows-compat

Re: w32 does not have emacsclient/server

2005-08-05 Thread Lennart Borgman
Juanma Barranquero wrote: On 8/5/05, Richard M. Stallman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I recommend that you defenestrate your computer. Either throw Windows out of the computer, or throw the computer out the window. So the options are, losing my computer, or Emacs losing a Windows maint

Re: w32 does not have emacsclient/server

2005-08-05 Thread Juanma Barranquero
On 8/5/05, Richard M. Stallman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I recommend that you defenestrate your computer. > Either throw Windows out of the computer, or throw > the computer out the window. So the options are, losing my computer, or Emacs losing a Windows maintainer? :-) --

void symbol: font-lock-keyword-face

2005-08-05 Thread Robert J. Chassell
Today's GNU Emacs CVS snapshot, Fri, 2005 Aug 5 23:12 UTC GNU Emacs 22.0.50.63 (i686-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.6.8) font-lock-keyword-face is void I see these messages when I try to load grep: Loading /usr/local/src/emacs/lisp/progmodes/grep.el (source)... eval-buffer: Symbol's val

Re: Suggestions for the temporary windows used from the minibuffer

2005-08-05 Thread Lennart Borgman
Richard M. Stallman wrote: I think it would be very nice if in all these the same keyboard command was used to scroll that extra window and to move into that window. Isn't that already the case? C-M-v should always scroll it. It does not work for C-h ?. Maybe that is the only i

Re: Suggestions for the temporary windows used from the minibuffer

2005-08-05 Thread Lennart Borgman
Richard M. Stallman wrote: Rob Davenport has made MS Windows icons for Emacs from the current logo by Luise Fernandes. Sorry, what does "the current logo by Luise Fernandes" mean? Sorry, I spelt his name wrong. It should be "Luis Fernandes". He has made the logo in red and blue that

expt weirdness in floatfns.c

2005-08-05 Thread D Goel
(expt 3 3) tries to return 27 instead of 27.0 That is good However, this has an unexpected outcome: (expt 2 -2) returns 0 instead of 0.25 I couldn,t understand the c code, but it seems to do this: /* don't promote to floats, if both are ints */ (if (and (integerp a) (integerp b))

Re: w32 does not have emacsclient/server

2005-08-05 Thread Juanma Barranquero
On 8/5/05, Eli Zaretskii <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I use RMAIL, but Gnus should also work. Is RMAIL easier to set up than Gnus? -- /L/e/k/t/u ___ Emacs-devel mailing list Emacs-devel@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listin

Re: w32 does not have emacsclient/server

2005-08-05 Thread David Kastrup
"Richard M. Stallman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > That said, what would you recommend as e-mail interface for a > mostly-Windows Emacs user? Gnus? > > I recommend that you defenestrate your computer. > Either throw Windows out of the computer, or throw > the computer out the window. The

help with GDB in Emacs

2005-08-05 Thread Nick Roberts
Balaji V. Iyer writes: > Hi Everyone, > This is a minor question, but how do I change the > line pointer in GDB to something like "=>" instead of > the usual small triangle? > > Any help is very appreciated. You can do this by disabling the fringe. The manual says: Manual> You can e

[EMAIL PROTECTED]: Shell Mode "dirs" command breaks if shell echoes command input]

2005-08-05 Thread Richard Stallman
[I sent this message three times but did not get a response. Would someone please work on this?] Could someone please see if this fix is still needed now? Please ack to me after checking. --- Start of forwarded message --- Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 18:21:28 -0500 (CDT) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: Suggestions for the temporary windows used from the minibuffer

2005-08-05 Thread Richard M. Stallman
I think it would be very nice if in all these the same keyboard command was used to scroll that extra window and to move into that window. Isn't that already the case? C-M-v should always scroll it. ___ Emacs-devel mailing list Emacs-de

Re: w32 does not have emacsclient/server

2005-08-05 Thread Richard M. Stallman
That said, what would you recommend as e-mail interface for a mostly-Windows Emacs user? Gnus? I recommend that you defenestrate your computer. Either throw Windows out of the computer, or throw the computer out the window. ___ Emacs-devel mail

using much processor time

2005-08-05 Thread J. David Boyd
I compiled and run the latest CVS build on a SCO machine, and the CPU useage just goes up and up. I've run it as emacs -q, so no init files are loaded, but the User and System CPU usage climbs every second, and the whole system begins to slow down. I agree, SCO stinks, but we can't scrap it yet.

Re: grep.el regexp

2005-08-05 Thread Richard M. Stallman
Those things are not underlined now, but at the cost of losing the ability to configure their faces and to distinguish visually negative results from positive. My patch fixes this (and leaves their faces not underlined). Ok, now I see. Please install it. ___

Re: Can't interrupt directory_files_internal run from timer-event-handler

2005-08-05 Thread Richard M. Stallman
Timer code normally turns off C-g so that you won't interrupt it by accident. (After all, you can't predict when the timer code will be running.) If ECB is going to do something potentially slow from a timer, it should probably bind inhibit-quit to nil around that code, after displaying a message

Re: info.el

2005-08-05 Thread Richard M. Stallman
The change is in the sorting order (it was in reverse order before this change) and minor formatting details. Ok, I don't object to that. But since `S' binding doesn't hurt, let's leave it alone, and remove only its menu item from the Info menu. Currently this menu is too big

Re: buffer list not sensitive to mouse-1-click-follows-links

2005-08-05 Thread Richard Stallman
[I sent this message two weeks ago but did not get a response.] There are buttons in the header line (to sort each column). This is similar to the links in the header line of Info (though, in that case, they are links, not action buttons). Now I see. I guess those should respond to m

Re: Is it possible to use tooltips only for some modes

2005-08-05 Thread Richard M. Stallman
Maybe I missed something, but it seems that one can only globally enable/disable tooltips. I think one should be able to make them buffer local or, even better, be able to enable/disable tooltips for some features (like modeline etc.). That seems like a good idea. Another idea: h

Re: w32 does not have emacsclient/server

2005-08-05 Thread Eli Zaretskii
> Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2005 11:09:45 +0200 > From: Juanma Barranquero <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org > > That said, what would you recommend as e-mail interface for a > mostly-Windows Emacs user? Gnus? I use RMAIL, but Gnus should also work. __

Re: Windows Icons for GNU from Luise Fernandes logo

2005-08-05 Thread Markus Gritsch
Lennart Borgman wrote: Thanks, the icons are quite nice and easily visible, but maybe they remind more of the wiki than of Emacs? Maybe. IMO the logo and the writing looks modern, fresh, clean, ... The original Emacs splash-logo appeard always a bit baroque to me :) However, I am totally a

Re: Windows Icons for GNU from Luise Fernandes logo

2005-08-05 Thread Lennart Borgman
Markus Gritsch wrote: I like the Emacs logo at http://www.emacswiki.org/cgi-bin/wiki quite much. IIRC it was done by Daniel Lundin. He sent me the logo with and without the 'emacs'-writing in various formats, and I am currently using it as my Emacs splash-image (see attachment). I also crea

help with GDB in Emacs

2005-08-05 Thread Balaji V. Iyer
Hi Everyone, This is a minor question, but how do I change the line pointer in GDB to something like "=>" instead of the usual small triangle? Any help is very appreciated. Thanks, Balaji V. Iyer. PS. CC's greatly appreciated __ Do you Yah

Strange behavior with GTK menus

2005-08-05 Thread Romain Francoise
I don't know if it's related to a recent change in Emacs, or due to the fact that Debian unstable now has GTK+ version 2.6.9 but I'm seeing something odd with GTK menus: they seem to disappear every time a timer expires. For example, if I call M-x display-splash-screen, then open a menu and keep i

RE: Suggestions for the temporary windows used from the minibuffer

2005-08-05 Thread Drew Adams
On a slightly related subject - Commands scroll-other-window and scroll-other-window-down manipulate the "other" window, if it exists. If it doesn't, they do nothing. That makes sense for the commands, but not for the keys they are bound to. Keys are limited, and handy pairs of keys like (, ) and

RE: set-frame-position - is it a bug?

2005-08-05 Thread Drew Adams
the intention of the following code (setq fpx (cdr (assoc 'left (frame-parameters (setq fpy (cdr (assoc 'top (frame-parameters (setq fpx (+ 1 fpx)) (set-frame-position (next-frame) fpx fpy) is to move the frame honizontally 1 pixel right; but as a side-e

RE: set-frame-position - is it a bug?

2005-08-05 Thread Drew Adams
>From Pascal Bourguignon: IMO it's a bug in the interaction between emacs and the window manager. With my version of emacs "22.0.50.1", and with my window manager (WindowMaker), it works In my version of 22.0.50.1 and window manager (Windows XP), it's broken: In GNU Emacs 22.0.50.1 (i

Shift Tab in help buffers still does not move backwards

2005-08-05 Thread Lennart Borgman
I believe that S-Tab still does not move backwards. It did at some time, but have been changed again. ___ Emacs-devel mailing list Emacs-devel@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-devel

RE: Can't interrupt directory_files_internal runfromtimer-event-handler

2005-08-05 Thread klaus.berndl
Juanma Barranquero wrote: > On 8/5/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> AFAIK there is a new macro in CVS named `while-no-input' (there >> was a discussion some time ago) > > BTW, `while-no-input' and `throw-on-input' are not documented on the > Emacs Lisp Reference; and the

Re: defadvice in Emacs code (was: Kill ring leak in winemacs macros]

2005-08-05 Thread Lennart Borgman
Richard M. Stallman wrote: These are all bugs that ought to be fixed. In general I did not know they used defadvice when the code was installed. I looked at the help text for defadvice and followed the link to Info (a very useful link!). In the help text I found nothing about defadvice usa

Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Kill ring leak in winemacs macros]

2005-08-05 Thread Juanma Barranquero
On 8/5/05, Richard M. Stallman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Since gdb-ui.el and org.el and tramp are new Also ibuf-ext.el and ses.el. They're not on 21.4. -- /L/e/k/t/u ___ Emacs-devel mailing list Emacs-devel@gnu.org http://list

Re: Can't interrupt directory_files_internal run fromtimer-event-handler

2005-08-05 Thread Juanma Barranquero
On 8/5/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > AFAIK there is a new macro in CVS named `while-no-input' (there > was a discussion some time ago) BTW, `while-no-input' and `throw-on-input' are not documented on the Emacs Lisp Reference; and the docstring for `throw-on-input' is subo

Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Kill ring leak in winemacs macros]

2005-08-05 Thread Richard M. Stallman
> No! Emacs code should not use defadvice. follow.el ibuf-ext.el ses.el uniquify.el woman.el emulation/viper.el mh-e/mh-acros.el net/tramp.el net/tramp-vc.el progmodes/ada-mode.el progmodes/gdb-ui.el progmodes/idlw-shell.

Re: recentf: custom-file

2005-08-05 Thread Richard M. Stallman
Your patch would work. Here's another patch that I wrote in the same area, but I have not had a chance to test it, so I have not installed it. Could you test it for me? === RCS file: /cvsroot/emacs/emacs/lisp/cus-edit.el,v retrievin

Re: w32 does not have emacsclient/server

2005-08-05 Thread Juanma Barranquero
The same patch, with a fix (there was a buffer overflow on emacsclient; not a security problem, but still...). send_to_emacs() is now much more rational. -- /L/e/k/t/u server.patch Description: Binary data ___ Emacs-devel mailing

RE: Can't interrupt directory_files_internal run fromtimer-event-handler

2005-08-05 Thread klaus.berndl
Klaus Zeitler wrote: > The following problem occurs with CVS emacs + ECB under Solaris 5.8. > > While ECB performs its stealth update activities, emacs sometimes > seems to > hang for a long time. > gdb shows the following function and backtrace: > > directory_files_internal (directory=16076323,

Suggestions for the temporary windows used from the minibuffer

2005-08-05 Thread Lennart Borgman
For many commands using the minibuffer an extra temporary window is used, for example with C-h ? or with completions. I think it would be very nice if in all these the same keyboard command was used to scroll that extra window and to move into that window. How about using and (on w32 that is

Is it possible to use tooltips only for some modes

2005-08-05 Thread Klaus Zeitler
While I think tooltips are good for the toolbar icons and great for the modeline, I find them sometimes annoying, especially in occur buffer. e.g. when I move the cursor in the occur buffer emacs keeps hiding lines behind the tooltip "mouse-2: go to this occurence". Showing the tooltip once when on

Re: w32 does not have emacsclient/server

2005-08-05 Thread Juanma Barranquero
On 8/5/05, Eli Zaretskii <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > May I suggest to use Emacs? Well, I can read Gmail at places where I don't have Emacs. And Gmail is generally so nice that I've started using it as my main e-mail interface, which says something, as I've always hated web-based e-mail and used

Re: w32 does not have emacsclient/server

2005-08-05 Thread Eli Zaretskii
> Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2005 09:59:15 +0200 > From: Juanma Barranquero <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: Emacs Devel > > I hate the things Gmail does to patches. May I suggest to use Emacs? ___ Emacs-devel mailing list Emacs-devel@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mai

Can't interrupt directory_files_internal run from timer-event-handler

2005-08-05 Thread Klaus Zeitler
The following problem occurs with CVS emacs + ECB under Solaris 5.8. While ECB performs its stealth update activities, emacs sometimes seems to hang for a long time. gdb shows the following function and backtrace: directory_files_internal (directory=16076323, full=3313665, match=3313665, nos

Re: w32 does not have emacsclient/server

2005-08-05 Thread Juanma Barranquero
The same patch, but attached (I hate the things Gmail does to patches). -- /L/e/k/t/u server.patch Description: Binary data ___ Emacs-devel mailing list Emacs-devel@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-devel