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Re: Suggestions for the temporary windows used from the minibuffer

2005-08-11 Thread Michael Welsh Duggan
"Richard M. Stallman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > 1) Add help to the isearch prompt > > I am not sure whether that is a good idea. > I think we should poll the users about it. I realize I am only one user, but I would strongly support this. I have often been in the middle of an isearch and

Re: Suggestions for the temporary windows used from the minibuffer

2005-08-11 Thread Lennart Borgman
David Kastrup wrote: Lennart Borgman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Richard M. Stallman wrote: Thanks for taking a stab at it. I am not sure that M-x is the best way to indicate Emacs; but it occurs to me that if M-x can be included visibly in an icon, then we could have an icon that s

Re: Suggestions for the temporary windows used from the minibuffer

2005-08-11 Thread David Kastrup
Lennart Borgman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Richard M. Stallman wrote: > >>Thanks for taking a stab at it. I am not sure that M-x is the best >>way to indicate Emacs; but it occurs to me that if M-x can be included >>visibly in an icon, then we could have an icon that says >> >> EM >> ACS >>

RE: Emacs icons (was: Suggestions for the temporary windows usedfrom the minibuffer)

2005-08-11 Thread Drew Adams
s Or E = m c (for relativity fans) a It is a nice idea, but can that much be expressed clearly in so few pixels? I think probably not. No, surely not. I was partly kidding. My serious 2 cents: - Understandability and recognizabi

Re: Suggestions for the temporary windows used from the minibuffer

2005-08-11 Thread Lennart Borgman
Richard M. Stallman wrote: Thanks for taking a stab at it. I am not sure that M-x is the best way to indicate Emacs; but it occurs to me that if M-x can be included visibly in an icon, then we could have an icon that says EM ACS (although I'd center the top line above the second line) I

Re: Suggestions for the temporary windows used from the minibuffer

2005-08-11 Thread Richard M. Stallman
Thanks for taking a stab at it. I am not sure that M-x is the best way to indicate Emacs; but it occurs to me that if M-x can be included visibly in an icon, then we could have an icon that says EM ACS (although I'd center the top line above the second line) ___

Re: AW: AW: Can't interrupt directory_files_internal runfromtimer-event-handler

2005-08-11 Thread Richard M. Stallman
>The best way to do this and make sure it is stealthy is by running a >subprocess. The subprocess can run in parallel with Emacs. Hmm, i'm not sure if this is the best way?! If the primitives you need to do the job in Emacs LIsp can be slow, I see no other way to do the job except to

Re: Overlong nodes in the Emacs Lisp Manual

2005-08-11 Thread Richard M. Stallman
I think not only long nodes should be checked, but also the shortest nodes too. For example, the node `(elisp)Inverse Video' has 11 lines and documents a semi-obsolete option `inverse-video'. Its menu item description in its upper node is too general: * Inverse VideoSpe

Re: Leaving isearch-mode and keeping the highlite

2005-08-11 Thread Richard M. Stallman
It is of course a new feature, but it can possible not break anything (except isearch highliting but that is easy to check). It we want this I would suggest to put it on C-RET or S-RET in isearch-mode-map. The main question is perhaps if we want it. Let's please focus on prepari

Re: Overlong nodes in the Emacs Lisp Manual

2005-08-11 Thread Richard M. Stallman
Thanks for finding the long nodes. The longest nodes are not ordinary documentation; it is ok for them to be as long as it takes: 1347 (info "(emacs)Command Index") 1334 (info "(emacs)Glossary") 1185 (info "(emacs)Acknowledgments") 992 (info "(elisp)Top") 856 (info "(emacs)Key

Re: Emacs icons (was: Suggestions for the temporary windows used from the minibuffer)

2005-08-11 Thread Richard M. Stallman
s Or E = m c (for relativity fans) a It is a nice idea, but can that much be expressed clearly in so few pixels? I think probably not. ___ Emacs-devel mailing list Emacs-devel@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mail

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Re: Overlong nodes in the Emacs Lisp Manual

2005-08-11 Thread Thien-Thi Nguyen
Juri Linkov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > List of nodes: > > 1347 (info "(emacs)Command Index") > ... > 10 (info "(emacs)Highlight Changes") -- a histogram opportunity! (sorry, couldn't resist.) thi (setq ht (make-hash-table)) (while (< (point) (point-max

Re: is there a cygwin maintainer for gnu emacs?

2005-08-11 Thread emacs user
can someone please just tell me what to do in the debugger to try and diagnose the problem? the DEBUG text was not useful to me. I am happy to work on this, but I am afraid I need very explicit gdb instructions. thanks... Eli From: "Richard M. Stallman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMA

Re: Define-key doc string - binding changes always if it exists

2005-08-11 Thread Lennart Borgman
Kevin Rodgers wrote: I don't agree. You've changed: > -If KEYMAP is a sparse keymap with a binding for KEY, the existing > -binding is altered. If there is no binding for KEY, the new pair > -binding KEY to DEF is added at the front of KEYMAP. */) to: > +If KEYMAP is a sparse keymap and th

Re: is there a cygwin maintainer for gnu emacs?

2005-08-11 Thread Joe Buehler
Richard M. Stallman wrote: When GC encounters a fatal inconsistency in the Emacs data structures, it is generally unsafe to say anything, since that could easily cause a nested fatal signal. It would also not be very useful, since any info we could put into such an error message cou

Re: Define-key doc string - binding changes always if it exists

2005-08-11 Thread Kevin Rodgers
Lennart Borgman wrote: > I found the doc string for define-key a bit strange. It kind of suggests > that if the keymap is not sparse then it is not changed. I suggest the > following patch: I don't agree. You've changed: > -If KEYMAP is a sparse keymap with a binding for KEY, the existing > -bi

Re: is there a cygwin maintainer for gnu emacs?

2005-08-11 Thread Richard M. Stallman
When GC encounters a fatal inconsistency in the Emacs data structures, it is generally unsafe to say anything, since that could easily cause a nested fatal signal. It would also not be very useful, since any info we could put into such an error message could be quickly discovered by a

Re: widen-automatically

2005-08-11 Thread Richard M. Stallman
Thanks. I fixed that. ___ Emacs-devel mailing list Emacs-devel@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-devel

Re: Suggestions for the temporary windows used from the minibuffer

2005-08-11 Thread Richard M. Stallman
4) Renamed search-ring-update to isearch-ring-update so that it better fits together with isearch. Lots of isearch options have names starting with search, so I would prefer to keep the name of this one unchanged. 2) Allows scrolling of the help window I don't understand. Would you

Re: dump-emacs not compatible with toolbar-mode

2005-08-11 Thread Richard M. Stallman
I fixed this. Thanks. ___ Emacs-devel mailing list Emacs-devel@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-devel

Re: Suggestions for the temporary windows used from the minibuffer

2005-08-11 Thread Richard M. Stallman
This is for use with help in isearch mode. It adds the text X-DESCRIPTION to the text that is normally shown when you type C-h. It also binds the character X-CHAR to the function X-FUNCTION in keymap used in C-h help. This is only done for isearch, otherwise the new optional

Re: info.texi

2005-08-11 Thread Richard M. Stallman
Your proposed rearrangement seems good to me, except we could just delete "Edit Document", because that isn't really useful. Most Info files are compiled from Texinfo files, and it makes little sense to edit the Info files. Karl wrote: - the search commands seem by far the most important to

Re: Suggestions for the temporary windows used from the minibuffer

2005-08-11 Thread Lennart Borgman
Richard M. Stallman wrote: > That is good to know. (Can you email me the gnome-emacs icon image?) That image is a picture of a gnu. That is not really right for this purpose, which is to distinguish Emacs within a context including other GNU programs (such as GNOME itself). So it would be

Re: info.texi

2005-08-11 Thread Karl Berry
or to a new node `Edit' under `Expert Info'. I would go for a new node. The new proposed toc looks good to me. Thanks, Karl ___ Emacs-devel mailing list Emacs-devel@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-devel

Re: Patch for invalid chars in file names on Cygwin

2005-08-11 Thread Joe Buehler
Ehud Karni wrote: I discovered today that `convert-standard-filename' on Cygwin does nothing and as result `make-temp-file' fails for name like "*mail*". The change in `make-auto-save-file-name' in 22.0.50 to call `make-temp-file' (it was `make-temp-name' before) made `compose-mail' fails on C

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AW: AW: Can't interrupt directory_files_internal runfromtimer-event-handler

2005-08-11 Thread klaus.berndl
Title: AW: AW: Can't interrupt directory_files_internal runfromtimer-event-handler     In fact: ECB has some tasks which should be run really(!) stealthy, like     checking if a dir is empty, getting the VC-state of all files in a dir,     checking which files in a dir are read-only... in ca