> Perhaps we should let other people who more often design icons have
> a stab on it also. Have a look at how e.g. the KDE project handles
> this: http://www.kde-look.org/index.php?xcontentmode=43
Don't let KDE people design Emacs icons. They will create icons
with the program name changed to EMA
> In any case, for the same reason that I think C-SPC is handy for
> inserting a space, I would recommend C-SPC over C-z for
> word-completion (for those who prefer to flip my recommendation
> to leave SPC bound to word completion).
To insert one space in the minibuffer, you can use M-SPC. To ins
Luc Teirlinck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> # Build loaddefs.el to make sure it's up-to-date. If it's not, that
> # might lead to errors during the bootstrap because something fails to
> # autoload as expected. If there is no emacs binary, then we can't
> # build autoloads yet. In that case we
David Kastrup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> [\year usage unconventional but probably ok]
thanks for the explanation.
this winter i will dig into TeX (a bit) and perhaps
do some light future-proofing of the .tex files.
until then, looks like \def\year{2002, 2003, ...}
is most straightforward.
th
David Reitter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I respectfully agree for the UI reasons I mentioned before. Why not
> map 'x' to the completion function? After all, only a few file names
> have an 'x' in them!
traditionally, spaces in filenames break lots of unixoid tools, and were
thus generally shu
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"Richard M. Stallman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> His test case is very clear, but it does not fail when I try it.
> Can anyone else observe this failure?
I don't see this failure, but while trying to replicate it, I did see
some other display problems. I tried GNU/Linux and W32, I saw problems
> There is lots that is unexpected or new in Emacs, and much of it is
> desirable because it optimizes ease of use - IOW, some Emacs UI
> features are new to people, but they are good. It is better to help
> new users to learn the Emacs way of doing things, _if it is better_,
>
Hi, Emacs!
It would surely be a Good Thing for Emacs 22.1 to incorporate CC Mode
5.31; both of these are teetering on the brink of being released.
If CC Mode 5.31 were to be released before Emacs 22.1 went into its
pre-release testing stage, would it be possible to include it in it?
(Forgive me i
Drew Adams wrote:
If you mean just "let C-s C-h display isearch-mode-help", then yes, I agree.
I use it that way, locally. I think it's especially important for novices,
because there are isearch bindings that are not obvious or are used
infrequently.
Yes that was my intention.
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Richard M. Stallman wrote:
The .png file that you sent has EM and ACS, but it also has a file name
or something that makes it much bigger. Why did you include that?
So you can see how it actually can look in some situations where it is
used. But to get a really good view you have to conside
Drew Adams wrote:
C-z is a CUA key for undo and as such is it used in every w32 program.
I have no stock in C-z. But how much do you use undo in the minibuffer?
C-z is a very, very basic editing command and you would expect that to
work anywhere in w32. Just like C-c, C-x and C-v. Cua-mo
- The best symbol for Emacs is plain, typewriter-font _text_.
A single letter is good as a representation of a text editor
(no flames about how Emacs is so much more). "E" for Emacs
is good, clear, and recognizable.
Just an E is an idea worth trying.
- The best symbol for Emacs is plain, typewriter-font _text_. A single
letter is good as a representation of a text editor (no flames about how
Emacs is so much more). "E" for Emacs is good, clear, and recognizable.
Just an E is an idea worth trying. For the usual reasons, we can't
us
On 12 Aug 2005, at 18:50, Drew Adams wrote:
The point is that users are free to get rid of the SPC bindings to
minibuffer-complete-word. I think that David was saying that he
never uses word completion - in that case, just removing the
bindings suffices. Those who do use it have several options,
I realize I am only one user, but I would strongly support this. I
have often been in the middle of an isearch and typed "C-h" because I
couldn't remember one of the nifty isearch features. On the other
hand, I haven't used anything other than RET or C-g to exit an isearch
sin
I looked at the code for directory-files, and it seems you cannot quit
out of it while it is waiting in a system call. This means that
while-no-input won't currently work when directory-files hangs in that
way.
It is probably possible to implement quitting out of the system call
in directory-file
Please note that in the Emacs Lisp Reference Manual there are already
four shorter nodes
(info "(elisp)Syntax of Regexps")
(info "(elisp)Regexp Special")
(info "(elisp)Regexp Backslash")
(info "(elisp)Regexp Example")
that almost completely duplicate the text in (emacs
The .png file that you sent has EM and ACS, but it also has a file name
or something that makes it much bigger. Why did you include that?
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>For those who want to use something besides SPC for word completion, a
good
>candidate is a left-hand key that is normally a prefix key, and that
doesn't
>have much use in the minibuffer - a key such as C-SPC or C-z
C-z is a CUA key for undo and as such is it used in every w32 pro
I recently had to update ldefs-boot.el because a new autoload cookie
for a variable had been added. The autoload made its way into
loaddefs.el but not into ldefs-boot.el. The strange thing was that when
the autoload was needed and bootstrapping failed because it was not
available, loaddefs.el had
For those who want to use something besides SPC for word completion, a good
candidate is a left-hand key that is normally a prefix key, and that doesn't
have much use in the minibuffer - a key such as C-SPC or C-z
C-z is a CUA key for undo and as such is it used in every w32 program.
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> From: Edward O'Connor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2005 10:19:09 -0700
>
> > Edward, can you please recheck if this problem happens with "emacs -Q"?
>
> It still happens with emacs -q --no-site-file.
FWIW, it happens for me too on GNU/Linux with emacs -q --no-site-file
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GNU Emacs 22.0.50.68 (i686-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.6.8)
started with
emacs/src/emacs -q --no-site-file
> His test case is very clear, but it does not fail when I try it.
Good test case, but I do not see the mode-line redisplay
"Richard M. Stallman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I fixed this. Thanks.
I'm assuming that your fix was this change:
2005-08-11 Richard M. Stallman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
* image.c (syms_of_image): Init image_types here, and call
define_image_type.
(init_image): Not her
> The point is that users are free to get rid of the SPC bindings to
> minibuffer-complete-word. I think that David was saying that he
> never uses word completion - in that case, just removing the
> bindings suffices. Those who do use it have several options,
> including the al
>> Edward, can you please recheck if this problem happens with "emacs -Q"?
>
> It still happens with emacs -q --no-site-file.
And emacs -Q (just checked).
Ted
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> Edward, can you please recheck if this problem happens with "emacs -Q"?
It still happens with emacs -q --no-site-file.
Ted
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> From: "Richard M. Stallman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED], emacs-devel@gnu.org, [EMAIL PROTECTED],
> cygwin@cygwin.com
> Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2005 10:59:49 -0400
>
> As it was, without any
> message, my initial suspicion was a SEGV or similar, which would be
> much
> From: "Richard M. Stallman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2005 10:59:21 -0400
>
> His test case is very clear, but it does not fail when I try it.
FWIW, it doesn't fail for me, either, with today's CVS on w32.
Since he says he saw this on several different platforms, while you
don't
On 12 Aug 2005, at 16:58, Drew Adams wrote:
The point is that users are free to get rid of the SPC bindings to
minibuffer-complete-word. I think that David was saying that he
never uses
word completion - in that case, just removing the bindings
suffices. Those
who do use it have several opti
> This gives you the convenience of using the spacebar for word
> completion, a
> more convenient way to insert a space (`C-SPC' is almost as
> convenient as `SPC'), and lets you change things easily if you like.
Note that C-SPC (which is often the same as C-@ on text terminals
"Drew Adams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> This gives you the convenience of using the spacebar for word completion, a
> more convenient way to insert a space (`C-SPC' is almost as convenient as
> `SPC'), and lets you change things easily if you like.
Note that C-SPC (which is often the same as C
David> IIRC, people seemed to agree and some said that they wouldn't
David> use minibuffer- complete-word anyways - especially for
David> filenames it seems to be clear that minibuffer-complete-word
David> makes no sense. Inputting a space in a file name, however, is
David> a p
His test case is very clear, but it does not fail when I try it.
Can anyone else observe this failure?
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I have to disgree with that, it's the instant gut ueber-programmer
reaction to such problems. Currently the user just gets an exiting
emacs, leaving me with no clue as to why emacs exited.
It crashed. It has a bug. What more is there to say?
I then have to
provide instru
> 1) Add help to the isearch prompt
>
> I am not sure whether that is a good idea.
> I think we should poll the users about it.
What is meant by #1 - what is the "isearch prompt", and how would help be
added to it?
If you mean just "let C-s C-h display isearch-mode-help", then
On 12 Aug 2005, at 11:26, James Cloos wrote:
"Lennart" == Lennart Borgman [EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Lennart> And some of those use Tab for file name completion - in the
Lennart> "shell" too ;-)
Yup. It is just hard to even /contemplate/ changing a 19 year old
habit. :)
Well, I use tab to
>> I'd say use while-no-input but you're in a better position to make this call.
> the only thing i wanted is: An expert-estimation if while-no-input is
> a good way - or with-local-quit - if i remember right you said that this
> could easily being backported - maybe its not a really good idea to
> "Lennart" == Lennart Borgman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Lennart> And some of those use Tab for file name completion - in the
Lennart> "shell" too ;-)
Yup. It is just hard to even /contemplate/ changing a 19 year old
habit. :)
-JimC
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> I will look at splitting these now:
>
> 361 (info "(emacs)Regexps")
Please note that in the Emacs Lisp Reference Manual there are already
four shorter nodes
(info "(elisp)Syntax of Regexps")
(info "(elisp)Regexp Special")
(info "(elisp)Regexp Backslash")
(info "(elisp)Regexp Example")
that
James Cloos wrote:
I hope a setting will be left to allow either option. I almost never
have to hit C-q to enter a space in a filename, but regularly
use the spacebar to complete filenames. Of course those not used to
working mostly at shell prompts, and therefore more used to useing
spaces in
Title: AW: AW: AW: Can't interrupt directory_files_internalrunfromtimer-event-handler
>> >The best way to do this and make sure it is stealthy is by running a
>> >subprocess. The subprocess can run in parallel with Emacs.
>> Hmm, i'm not sure if this is the best way?!
>If the prim
Title: AW: Can't interrupt directory_files_internal run fromtimer-event-handler
>> With the current available elisp-tools (macos, functions etc.) ECB can run
>> these tasks only pseudo-stealthy...therefore a way to make this really
>> stealthy would be very important for ECB so users are not
> "David" == David Reitter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
David> IIRC, people seemed to agree and some said that they wouldn't
David> use minibuffer- complete-word anyways - especially for
David> filenames it seems to be clear that minibuffer-complete-word
David> makes no sense. Inputting a spac
Lennart Borgman student.lu.se> writes:
> I would find it very helpful to be able to leave isearch-mode but keep
> the highlite. Is this something other would find helpful too?
Have you tried "M-x highlight-regexp"? You could even write a wrapper to
fetch the last search string automatically.
Lennart Borgman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> It is quite tought making anything with 16x16 pixels actually - don't
> know whether that is good or bad for inspiration and creativity here
> ;-) -- To me ideas for a logo should be thought of together with the
> icon. I do not know how other peop
> The links in the *Backtrace* buffer is extremely handy when searching for an
> error. However I am missing a link to where the error originated in my
> code. I miss it so much so I consider it a bug ;-)
Looks like the attached patch got lost on the way. Can you resend?
Stefan ;-)
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> With the current available elisp-tools (macos, functions etc.) ECB can run
> these tasks only pseudo-stealthy...therefore a way to make this really
> stealthy would be very important for ECB so users are not blocked...
> I have no preference how to achieve this (while-no-input, with-local-quit
>
> (DEFN should be a valid definition in its own right),
> or a cons (MAP . CHAR), meaning use definition of CHAR in keymap MAP.
> -If KEYMAP is a sparse keymap with a binding for KEY, the existing
> -binding is altered. If there is no binding for KEY, the new pair
> -binding KEY to DEF is
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