Re: Simultaneous gdb session badness

2005-08-18 Thread Michael Welsh Duggan
Nick Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Michael Welsh Duggan writes: > > Yes, I see that now. It was not obvious from NEWS, so I didn't > > realize I needed to reread the gdb manual. (I remember reading the > > messages covering bits of this on emacs-devel now that you brought > > this up

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2005-08-18 Thread pascal.collinet
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RE: Emacs icons

2005-08-18 Thread Drew Adams
What a coincidence! I threw out that E = macs idea, independently, a week ago. I guess it must be a fairly obvious thing to "discover", but, even so, I'm still a bit surprised. I'm sure I never saw this anywhere. - Drew >> (in allusion to Einstein's E=mc2)? Could look nice with colors and

Re: Avoiding moving point into minibuffer prompt area

2005-08-18 Thread Lennart Borgman
Richard M. Stallman wrote: 2) Do not show the message "Prompt is read-only" when Inviolable is on. It is just disturbing and unexpected in my opinion. It is simply the usual behavior for most applications that you are not able to delete the prompt. The command delete-backward-cha

Re: Emacs icons

2005-08-18 Thread Lennart Borgman
Frank Schmitt wrote: If you want to create images in a vector format, you have to use a vector based drawing tool, that means you have to leave Gimp behind and use tools like Inkscape (this is the only mature free vector drawing program I know but I'm no expert in this area). And Incscape se

Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Kill ring leak in winemacs macros]

2005-08-18 Thread Stuart D. Herring
> I'm still not convinced this change is worth making now. On X, even > with clipboard enabled, the actual copying to the clipboard is only > performed if another application requests it. Andrew Innes suggested > many years ago that the W32 clipboard should work the same way, but > noone has picked

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disable menu-items when frame invisible / inapplicable

2005-08-18 Thread David Reitter
Can I suggest to disable menu items when the frame they refer to is invisible, or when they refer to a buffer and the minibuffer is selected? Note that the menu bar doesn't always have to be inside the frame - some systems / window manager configurations allow you to have the menu bar on to

Re: Emacs icons

2005-08-18 Thread Frank Schmitt
Lennart Borgman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Thanks for the information. I did not know that SVG was going to be used > everywhere. Then it looks like I good idea to make both bitmap and SVG > versions. Do you have any idea of how to handle this? > > I have seen there is an SVG plugin for Gimp.

Re: Emacs icons

2005-08-18 Thread Lennart Borgman
Frank Schmitt wrote: "Richard M. Stallman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: This is highly dependent on the window- or file manager used and normally configurable to a certain degree by a user. Commonly used sizes are: 16x16 20x20/ 24x24 32x32 36x36 48x48 64x64 96x96 I'm really wondering

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2005-08-18 Thread Richard M. Stallman
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Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Kill ring leak in winemacs macros]

2005-08-18 Thread Jason Rumney
Kevin Rodgers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Jason Rumney wrote: > > Jason Rumney wrote: > >> I'm not convinced this change is a good one. What if your macro > >> involves a call-process call to an external program that interacts > >> with Emacs via the keyboard? > > > > clipboard, of course,

Re: Avoiding moving point into minibuffer prompt area

2005-08-18 Thread Richard M. Stallman
2) Do not show the message "Prompt is read-only" when Inviolable is on. It is just disturbing and unexpected in my opinion. It is simply the usual behavior for most applications that you are not able to delete the prompt. The command delete-backward-char is going to fail because

Re: Mode line faces on ttys

2005-08-18 Thread Richard M. Stallman
I've looked over the documentation of the functions that work with the `:inverse-video' attribute in the Emacs Lisp Reference manual, and I see that the documentation doesn't correspond to actual functions. The description of `invert-face' is wrong, and `set-face-inverse-video-p'

Re: Emacs icons

2005-08-18 Thread Frank Schmitt
"Richard M. Stallman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > By the way, I see people sending both 48x48 and 16x16 icons. > When is the 48x48 used, and when is the 16x16 used? This is highly dependent on the window- or file manager used and normally configurable to a certain degree by a user. Commonly use

Re: Emacs icons

2005-08-18 Thread Emilio Lopes
Stefan Reichör writes: > Emilio Lopes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> >> (in allusion to Einstein's E=mc2)? Could look nice with colors and >> pretty fonts. >> >> It was not my idea. I first saw it in a post by Christoph Conrad, >> where he attributes this "discovery" to Peter Ikier. > Does someon

make-frame awfully slow when color-theme (faces) are defined

2005-08-18 Thread David Reitter
make-frame is awfully slow when a couple of custom faces have been defined by installing a color theme (external color-theme package). I have described this in more detail with a test case here: http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-pretest-bug/2005-08/ msg00168.html I think this could be

Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Kill ring leak in winemacs macros]

2005-08-18 Thread Stuart D. Herring
> I think you mean it should be checked while defining a macro, as well as > when executing one, because the first time a macro is executed is when > it is defined -- right? The idea is that a macro running without user interaction -- one that may take minutes to run (repeatedly) -- shouldn't inte

Re: Emacs icons

2005-08-18 Thread Gian Uberto Lauri
> "RMS" == Richard M Stallman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: RMS> This approach is going in the wrong direction. It is too hard to RMS> see, and it doesn't focus on the important thing, which is RMS> "Emacs". Indeed, I did not notice it since I *knew* it was Emacs. RMS> By the way, I see peopl

Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Kill ring leak in winemacs macros]

2005-08-18 Thread Kevin Rodgers
Stuart D. Herring wrote: > What kind of keyboard macro could communicate asynchronously with another > program, via the clipboard or otherwise? Something like that would seem > to require real Lisp anyway. Moreover, this whole change would be > optional (customizable), so the user of any such ma

Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Kill ring leak in winemacs macros]

2005-08-18 Thread Kevin Rodgers
Jason Rumney wrote: > "Stuart D. Herring" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >>Moreover, this whole change would be optional (customizable), so the >>user of any such macro could turn off that option > > OK. I don't expect my hypothetical case will come up often, but it is > possible. I just wanted to ma

Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Kill ring leak in winemacs macros]

2005-08-18 Thread Kevin Rodgers
Jason Rumney wrote: > Jason Rumney wrote: >> I'm not convinced this change is a good one. What if your macro >> involves a call-process call to an external program that interacts >> with Emacs via the keyboard? > > clipboard, of course, not keyboard. If the proposed new option's default preserves

Re: 100% CPU on TCP servers

2005-08-18 Thread Juanma Barranquero
(A question for process-savvy people) It seems like > (make-network-process :name "test" :server t :service t) on Windows makes the server process to call server_accept_connection() continuously (in a 2.8 GHz Pentium IV I've measured around 10,200 calls in 3,5 s, almost 2,900 calls per second)

Re: update of emacsclient.1

2005-08-18 Thread Lennart Borgman
Richard M. Stallman wrote: What people think of changing the above paragraph to You can either call emacsclient directly or set the environment variable EDITOR to 'emacsclient' and let other programs run it for you, thus using an existing Emacs to edit the file. I think t

Re: Emacs icons

2005-08-18 Thread Lennart Borgman
Richard M. Stallman wrote: The big version of this icon looks nice, and the large E ought to be readable. However, there isn't enough color contrast between the purple E and the dark background. It is quite hard to understand which picture you are commenting. Could you please describe it a

Re: Emacs icons

2005-08-18 Thread Lennart Borgman
Richard M. Stallman wrote: Hmm... I use the attached image with WindowMaker, it's the splash image s= hrinked to 48x48. This approach is going in the wrong direction. It is too hard to see, and it doesn't focus on the important thing, which is "Emacs". I ask everyone to please NOT se

Re: Standard Faces nodes

2005-08-18 Thread Richard M. Stallman
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Re: update of emacsclient.1

2005-08-18 Thread Richard M. Stallman
What people think of changing the above paragraph to You can either call emacsclient directly or set the environment variable EDITOR to 'emacsclient' and let other programs run it for you, thus using an existing Emacs to edit the file. I think that is good. Would someon

Re: Emacs icons

2005-08-18 Thread Richard M. Stallman
Hmm... I use the attached image with WindowMaker, it's the splash image s= hrinked to 48x48. This approach is going in the wrong direction. It is too hard to see, and it doesn't focus on the important thing, which is "Emacs". I ask everyone to please NOT send any more proposed icons

Re: Mode line faces on ttys

2005-08-18 Thread Richard M. Stallman
Since this change causes questions, maybe it should be mentioned in etc/NEWS? I think it would be worth a brief mention, but please don't make it precise and detailed. That would be too hard to read. ___ Emacs-devel mailing list Emacs-devel@g

Re: Patch for (elisp's) buffers.texi.

2005-08-18 Thread Richard M. Stallman
I am in favor of installing your patch. Would someone please install it? ___ Emacs-devel mailing list Emacs-devel@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-devel

Re: Emacs icons

2005-08-18 Thread Richard M. Stallman
How about something along the lines of This is the E=MACS equation idea. It is clever, but it is too complex to fit in a usable icon. In order to be visible, it has to be too big. Such complex ideas are not usable, so I ask people to let them drop.

Re: Emacs icons

2005-08-18 Thread Richard M. Stallman
The big version of this icon looks nice, and the large E ought to be readable. However, there isn't enough color contrast between the purple E and the dark background. The small version seems to use different colors, and the E can't be seen at all. __

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Re: writing an elisp interface to a c library

2005-08-18 Thread Thien-Thi Nguyen
James Cloos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > (As I see it, the lib's api is such that it can be mapped to lisp w/o > diverging from its C look and feel. Following that api very closely, > then, seems to be the Right Thing To Do. Being able to write all of > the higher-level code using the lib in el

Re: writing an elisp interface to a c library

2005-08-18 Thread Masatake YAMATO
> Can anyone point me to a good example in the emacs codebase of a lisp > api that closely matches an existing external c api? So far I've only > hacked the elisp part of emacs, not the C > > I presume I'll need to create some read-only lisp integers matching > the names of the various enum v

writing an elisp interface to a c library

2005-08-18 Thread James Cloos
Can anyone point me to a good example in the emacs codebase of a lisp api that closely matches an existing external c api? So far I've only hacked the elisp part of emacs, not the C I presume I'll need to create some read-only lisp integers matching the names of the various enum values, lisp

Re: emacs eshell .bat "warning: extra args ignored"

2005-08-18 Thread Lennart Borgman
Seems like a bug too me. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i tried to run a windows command under eshell. c:/temp $ a.bat -server 1 warning: extra args ignored after '-server' c:/temp $ b.bat server warning: extra args ignored after 'a.bat' My question is how to pass arguments to regular windows com

Re: Mode line faces on ttys

2005-08-18 Thread Romain Francoise
Juri Linkov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > In which NEWS section would you expect to find this fix? > Possible candidates: > * Lisp Changes in Emacs 22.1 > ** Face changes Sounds like the less inappropriate choice... -- Romain Francoise <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | I used to think there is no it's a

Re: Simultaneous gdb session badness

2005-08-18 Thread Nick Roberts
Michael Welsh Duggan writes: > Yes, I see that now. It was not obvious from NEWS, so I didn't > realize I needed to reread the gdb manual. (I remember reading the > messages covering bits of this on emacs-devel now that you brought > this up, but I obviously didn't read them closely enough.)

Re: ido-read-file-name default-filename

2005-08-18 Thread Kim F. Storm
Karl Chen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > A number of functions that call `read-file-name' utilize the > `default-filename' parameter, or its default. E.g., M-x > diff-backup RET should diff the current file instead of attempting > to diff the current directory. I.e., regular `read-file-name' > re

Re: is there a cygwin maintainer for gnu emacs?

2005-08-18 Thread emacs user
some more diagnostics of the GC problem, with the help of some advice from eliz. does this help? From: Joe Buehler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED], emacs-devel@gnu.org, cygwin@cygwin.com Subject: Re: is there a cygwin maintainer fo