Re: Avoiding moving point into minibuffer prompt area

2005-08-21 Thread Richard M. Stallman
>The prompt uses the face `minibuffer-prompt'. Are you saying this >does not work for you? It works for me. > > No. I tried to say that the default face for the minibuffer prompt does not have any special background color. Can you debug that and see why it doesn't work

Re: Avoiding moving point into minibuffer prompt area

2005-08-21 Thread Richard M. Stallman
>Normally, delete-backward-char at the beginning of the buffer >gives an error, "Beginning of buffer". It would seem strange >if, when just after the prompt, it did nothing at all. > > Perhaps not. Is not this another situation. The buffer could be scrolled down (for

Re: "What's This?" in Describe submenu

2005-08-21 Thread Luc Teirlinck
Eli Zaretskii wrote: > That thread was mainly concerned with other stuff, but I believe the > only real problem was that "Describe Key" did not make it clear that > it also applies to menu items. The tooltip that pops up for that menu item does make this clear. In my previous reply I

Re: "What's This?" in Describe submenu

2005-08-21 Thread Luc Teirlinck
> They do the same thing, that is exactly what is confusing. I don't see why, really. Because I have never seen adjacent duplicate entries like this before in any menu bar of any other application. No, I mean that an Emacs developer who is confused like you Duplicate menu items lik

Re: "What's This?" in Describe submenu

2005-08-21 Thread Eli Zaretskii
> Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2005 21:59:42 -0400 > From: David Robinow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > I've used Windows for about ten years. I don't remember ever seeing > a "What's This" message. > I just checked Visual Studio .NET, Microsoft Office, and Internet > Explorer. Can't find

Re: "What's This?" in Describe submenu

2005-08-21 Thread Eli Zaretskii
> Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2005 16:38:21 -0500 (CDT) > From: Luc Teirlinck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > They do the same thing, that is exactly what is confusing. I don't see why, really. >> What is this "this" that is referred to in "What's this?"? > >See

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Re: "What's This?" in Describe submenu

2005-08-21 Thread David Robinow
On 8/21/05, Richard M. Stallman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > A discussion in November 2002, based on noting that Windows menus have > a "What's This" feature, concluded that (present and former) Windows > users would recognize the name "What's This" and know what to do with > it. So it would help

Re: "What's This?" in Describe submenu

2005-08-21 Thread Luc Teirlinck
Richard Stallman wrote: A discussion in November 2002, based on noting that Windows menus have a "What's This" feature, concluded that (present and former) Windows users would recognize the name "What's This" and know what to do with it. So it would help them. I have never been a

Re: blink-matching-open resizes echo area

2005-08-21 Thread Richard M. Stallman
Does this version work right? (defun blink-matching-open () "Move cursor momentarily to the beginning of the sexp before point." (interactive) (when (and (> (point) (1+ (point-min))) blink-matching-paren ;; Verify an even number of quoting characters precede the cl

Re: Copyright assignment

2005-08-21 Thread Richard M. Stallman
Oops. I sent: If you have problems in dealing with FSF legal papers, please write to me. Other developers on emacs-devel can help with this, so there is no point adding mail to their mailboxes. but it should say If you have problems in dealing with FSF legal papers, please writ

Re: "What's This?" in Describe submenu

2005-08-21 Thread Richard M. Stallman
What is the purpose of the "What's This?" entry in the Describe submenu of the Help menu? The only difference to the "Describe Key..." entry beneath is that the latter is bound to `describe-key-1' which is not defined anywhere. A discussion in November 2002, based on noting that W

Re: "What's This?" in Describe submenu

2005-08-21 Thread Luc Teirlinck
Eli Zaretskii wrote: See the discussion in this thread (almost 3 years ago): http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2002-11/msg00370.html The problem that prompted this one particular message seems to be more that many paople do not seem know that they can make tooltips appear in

Re: "What's This?" in Describe submenu

2005-08-21 Thread Luc Teirlinck
Eli Zaretskii wrote: But we already have such a menu item, it's called "Describe Key" and can be found right below "What's This?". They do the same thing, that is exactly what is confusing. > What is this "this" that is referred to in "What's this?"? See the discussion in this threa

Re: trivial patch for `ido.el'

2005-08-21 Thread Kim F. Storm
Paul Pogonyshev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Kim F. Storm wrote: >> Paul Pogonyshev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> > Does anybody mind this simple change? I have directory named `~/cvs' >> > (in lowercase) and I don't like `ido' ignoring it. >> > >> > >> > 2005-08-21 Paul Pogonyshev <[EMAIL PR

Re: "What's This?" in Describe submenu

2005-08-21 Thread Eli Zaretskii
> Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2005 12:59:33 -0500 (CDT) > From: Luc Teirlinck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >From my previous reply: > >My first choice would be to just delete "What's this". But, >alternately one could have one menu item called: > >What's

Re: trivial patch for `ido.el'

2005-08-21 Thread Kim F. Storm
Paul Pogonyshev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Does anybody mind this simple change? I have directory named `~/cvs' > (in lowercase) and I don't like `ido' ignoring it. > > > 2005-08-21 Paul Pogonyshev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > * ido.el (ido-ignore-item-p): Bind `case-fold-search' to >

Re: trivial patch for `ido.el'

2005-08-21 Thread Paul Pogonyshev
Kim F. Storm wrote: > Paul Pogonyshev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Does anybody mind this simple change? I have directory named `~/cvs' > > (in lowercase) and I don't like `ido' ignoring it. > > > > > > 2005-08-21 Paul Pogonyshev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > * ido.el (ido-ignore-item-p): B

Re: "What's This?" in Describe submenu

2005-08-21 Thread Luc Teirlinck
>From my previous reply: From searching the archives, it looks like the "What's this?" item was added because "What's this?" apparently has a standard meaning to MS Windows users. But it sounds very cryptic if you do not use MS Windows and hence are not used to it. Well, "What's this

Re: "What's This?" in Describe submenu

2005-08-21 Thread Luc Teirlinck
>From my previous message: To me, "Describe Key" is clear and in line with the other menu item names, whereas "What's this" looks cryptic (what is meant with "this"?). >From searching the archives, it looks like the "What's this?" item was added because "What's this?" apparently has a st

Re: "What's This?" in Describe submenu

2005-08-21 Thread Luc Teirlinck
>From my previous reply: My first choice would be to just delete "What's this". But, alternately one could have one menu item called: What's This? (Describe Key) Maybe it would be better to call it: Describe Key or Menu Item That would still be shorter and "Menu item" would seem to b

Re: "What's This?" in Describe submenu

2005-08-21 Thread Luc Teirlinck
Martin Rudalics wrote: What is the purpose of the "What's This?" entry in the Describe submenu of the Help menu? The only difference to the "Describe Key..." entry beneath is that the latter is bound to `describe-key-1' which is not defined anywhere. [describe-key-1] is the key, not

Re: Copyright assignment

2005-08-21 Thread Jérôme Marant
"Richard M. Stallman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > If you have problems in dealing with FSF legal papers, please write to > me. Other developers on emacs-devel can help with this, so there is > no point adding mail to their mailboxes. > Sorry for the inconvenience. -- Jérôme Marant

Re: Copyright assignment

2005-08-21 Thread drkm
Richard M. Stallman writes: > If you have problems in dealing with FSF legal papers, please write to > me. Other developers on emacs-devel can help with this ^^^ You mean "can not", don't you? --drkm ___ Ema

trivial patch for `ido.el'

2005-08-21 Thread Paul Pogonyshev
Does anybody mind this simple change? I have directory named `~/cvs' (in lowercase) and I don't like `ido' ignoring it. 2005-08-21 Paul Pogonyshev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * ido.el (ido-ignore-item-p): Bind `case-fold-search' to `ido-case-fold' locally. --- ido.el 21 Aug 20

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2005-08-21 Thread אפשר אחרת
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"What's This?" in Describe submenu

2005-08-21 Thread martin rudalics
What is the purpose of the "What's This?" entry in the Describe submenu of the Help menu? The only difference to the "Describe Key..." entry beneath is that the latter is bound to `describe-key-1' which is not defined anywhere. ___ Emacs-devel mailin