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Re: Amendments in calc-units.el

2005-10-15 Thread Miles Bader
2005/10/16, Torsten Bronger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Secondly, "point" should be renamed "bp" (big point). It's not > *the* point after all (but an invention by Adobe, as far as I know). I suspect more calc users use postscript points than "real points"... Probably better to make "pt" / "point" me

RE: Yet another emacs icons

2005-10-15 Thread Drew Adams
_any_ of these new icons is better than the old Gnu/mushroom icon ... it looks basically like a piece of lint! The original image is far too detailed to ever be very useful as an icon Most of us agree (I think), that neither complex images nor text work well at icon size. I've already

Re: Yet another emacs icons

2005-10-15 Thread Lennart Borgman
Miles Bader wrote: I think all of your icons are very pretty, but I liked the earlier "notebook" versions much better -- it seems like a notebook conveys the generic idea of editor, and the E/horns add an easily recognizable "tag" to tell you it's Emacs[*]. I think adding the word "emacs" to th

Re: Yet another emacs icons

2005-10-15 Thread Miles Bader
I think all of your icons are very pretty, but I liked the earlier "notebook" versions much better -- it seems like a notebook conveys the generic idea of editor, and the E/horns add an easily recognizable "tag" to tell you it's Emacs[*]. I think adding the word "emacs" to the icon is pretty usele

RE: Saving minibuffer history

2005-10-15 Thread Drew Adams
An improved version is now available at . FYI - I had some problems trying to use this library with Emacs 20, but if a few minor changes are made, it works well. Here are the problems I ran into: 1. (defcustom savehist-modes #o600 The rea

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2005-10-15 Thread Aton Delamater
404 Not Found Not Found The requested URL was not found on this server. Apache/1.3.31 ___ Emacs-devel mailing list Emacs-devel@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-devel

Re: Saving minibuffer history

2005-10-15 Thread Hrvoje Niksic
"Richard M. Stallman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I installed it. Thanks. Thank you. An improved version is now available at . ___ Emacs-devel mailing list Emacs-devel@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/

CORRECT VERSION: tramp (2.0.51); tramp and file-name-all-completions

2005-10-15 Thread Kim F. Storm
PLEASE IGNORE MY PREVIOUS POST (Due to temporary brain power failure, I had swapped the args to file-name-all-completions, so the reported ERROR/OK was swapped too). THIS IS THE PROPER BUG REPORT. I'm trying to make ido work sensibly with tramp syntax -- but getting a grip on file-name-all-comp

tramp (2.0.51); tramp and file-name-all-completions

2005-10-15 Thread Kim F. Storm
I'm trying to make ido work sensibly with tramp syntax -- but getting a grip on file-name-all-completions is really a nightmare. Ido uses file-name-all-completions to get a list of all possible completions of "the next component" to be entered by the user. Now, consider these tramp file name:

Re: TUTORIAL.gz

2005-10-15 Thread David Kastrup
Eli Zaretskii <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 13:25:57 +0200 >> From: LENNART BORGMAN <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], emacs-devel@gnu.org >> >> Does not compression create some difficulties for w32 users? > > They need gzip to be installed.

Re: Amendments in calc-units.el

2005-10-15 Thread David Kastrup
Torsten Bronger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I suggest two renamings of unit abbreviations in calc-units.el, in > the attached patch. > > "pt" should become "pint" in order to make room for the typographic > point (pt). I think this is more practical since the latter is much > more significant f

Re: M-g in dired

2005-10-15 Thread Kim F. Storm
Juri Linkov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: There is a similar problem in GNUS. I get hit by doing M-g in an article buffer every now and then... -- Kim F. Storm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.cua.dk ___ Emacs-devel mailing list Emacs-devel@gnu.org htt

Re: Shall we use etc/images more?

2005-10-15 Thread Romain Francoise
Bill Wohler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > There doesn't seem to be any changes required when I delete the > toolbar directory. Correct? Yep, subdirectories of lisp/ are found automatically. Thanks, -- Romain Francoise <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | All you've been is a piece of it's a miracle -- http:/

Re: image size limit?

2005-10-15 Thread Chong Yidong
> At the same time, we implement image width and height limits in > x_create_x_image_and_pixmap, to deal with malicious images that > specify gigantic width and height sizes, even though the file size > isn't that big. > > Will that succeed in handling the problem case we got? It w

Re: Qs on key-description, substitute-command-keys

2005-10-15 Thread John S. Yates, Jr.
On Sat, 15 Oct 2005 07:54:14 -0400, Stefan Monnier wrote: > There is no way to get this kind of control. `substitute-command-keys' has > some rules such as "prefer a binding using plain ascii keys" (so it'll > prefer C-x < over C-next, based on the principle that not all terminals have > a `next'

Re: Shall we use etc/images more?

2005-10-15 Thread Bill Wohler
Romain Francoise <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > When you move files around, please always reflect your changes in the > make-dist script, if appropriate. Thank you. I just added the gud stuff to it. It appears that the two sections that begin: echo "Creating subdirectories" echo "Making links

Re: Entering filenames with spaces

2005-10-15 Thread David Reitter
On 13 Aug 2005, at 15:40, Richard M. Stallman wrote: However, I tend to think that the completion definition is not essential, and is better for advanced users, while it can screw beginners who don't know enough to use C-q SPC. Therefore, I have concluded we should redefine SPC. Would someone

Amendments in calc-units.el

2005-10-15 Thread Torsten Bronger
Hallöchen! I suggest two renamings of unit abbreviations in calc-units.el, in the attached patch. "pt" should become "pint" in order to make room for the typographic point (pt). I think this is more practical since the latter is much more significant for calc usage, and its current abbreviation

Re: mh-e/mh-loaddefs.el removed from CVS

2005-10-15 Thread Bill Wohler
Bill Wohler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Bill Wohler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> Those of you using MH-E in CVS Emacs will need to run ./configure in >> order to rebuild lisp/Makefile from lisp/Makefile.in. > > Just a friendly reminder that you MUST do this (or "./config.status") > since I c

Re: url/url.el - should (require 'cl) be removed?

2005-10-15 Thread Richard M. Stallman
So I guess these lines in url.el should be removed. I deleted them. Thanks. ___ Emacs-devel mailing list Emacs-devel@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-devel

Re: TUTORIAL.gz

2005-10-15 Thread Richard M. Stallman
> I don't see the point in doing that when the info manuals remain > uncompressed at the same time. Well, then let's compress the info files too. It is not crucial whether we do this. (That is not just an Emacs question.) The point is, accessing compressed info files works; if the s

Re: image size limit?

2005-10-15 Thread Richard M. Stallman
Here's another idea. We impose a limit on the size of the image file that Emacs is willing to read, say 50 megabytes. This should be easy to implement and independent of image type. That might be a good idea, but it won't address this problem. In this problem case, the file itself is

Re: Saving minibuffer history

2005-10-15 Thread Richard M. Stallman
I installed it. Thanks. ___ Emacs-devel mailing list Emacs-devel@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-devel

Re: Dedicated *Completions* frame iconified but not de-iconified

2005-10-15 Thread Richard M. Stallman
The code in temp_output_buffer_show includes this: if (!EQ (Vtemp_buffer_show_function, Qnil)) call1 (Vtemp_buffer_show_function, buf); else { window = Fdisplay_buffer (buf, Qnil, Qnil); if (!EQ (XWINDOW (window)->frame, selected_frame)) Fmake_frame_visible (WINDOW

Re: wrapper fn for message and minibuffer-message?

2005-10-15 Thread Juri Linkov
> Eval: (setq foo 'bar) > typing `C-s foo' will display: > Eval: (setq foo 'bar) [I-search backward: foo] > and `foo' will be highlighted in `isearch' face, as usual. > > Not bad (but don't you mean C-r for backward search)? Yes, C-r. > Anyway, this seems orthogonal to the discuss

Re: Shall we use etc/images more?

2005-10-15 Thread Romain Francoise
When you move files around, please always reflect your changes in the make-dist script, if appropriate. Failure to do so results in incomplete release tarballs. (I fixed several omissions last week already.) -- Romain Francoise <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | I used to think there is no it's a miracle --

RE: wrapper fn for message and minibuffer-message?

2005-10-15 Thread Drew Adams
> OK, I understand you now, I think. `message' does this: > > if `minibufferp', >then if `minibuffer-message-at-end' > then don't erase minibuffer, but append message there > else temporarily replace minibuffer contents with message >else temporar

RE: Qs on key-description, substitute-command-keys

2005-10-15 Thread Drew Adams
> Does anyone know how to control which of several bindings for > a command is displayed by `substitute-command-keys'? There is no way to get this kind of control. I think we should devise some way to get the desired result without going through contorsions like `advertized-bl

Re: Dedicated *Completions* frame iconified but not de-iconified

2005-10-15 Thread Reiner Steib
On Sat, Oct 15 2005, Reiner Steib wrote: > When I try with plain twm, fvwm1 or blackbox, the frame is > de-iconified. So it's probably a bug in fluxbox. > > Could you point me to the relevant code in Emacs responsible for > de-iconifying the frame so that I can report to the fluxbox people? > Tha

RE: Qs on key-description, substitute-command-keys

2005-10-15 Thread Drew Adams
> Does anyone know how to control which of several bindings for > a command is displayed by `substitute-command-keys'? There is the same problem for the key suggestion feature activated by `suggest-key-bindings' displaying in the echo area only the "first" key binding which is

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Re: Dedicated *Completions* frame iconified but not de-iconified

2005-10-15 Thread Reiner Steib
On Fri, Oct 14 2005, Stefan Monnier wrote: >> After clicking on an alternative with the mouse iconifies the >> completions frame[1]. But the next time a completions buffer is >> generated, the completions frame is not de-iconified. I think the >> frame should be made visible. > >

Re: Tool-bar buttons unresponsive with tooltips on

2005-10-15 Thread Chong Yidong
Chong Yidong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > With `emacs -q' and tool-bar-mode on: > > 1. Hover the mouse cursor over (e.g.) the "find file" icon > 2. Wait for the tool-tip to pops up. > 3. Click [mouse-1]. > > Result: the tool-tip is dismissed, but the button isn't clicked. You > have to cli

Re: delete-char vs "mouse-region" and "transient-mark-region"

2005-10-15 Thread Mathias Dahl
"Richard M. Stallman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > 1. $ emacs -q > > 2. Create two lines of text: > > line1 > line2 > > 3. Mark the first one using the mouse and press C-d (delete-char). The >marked region will be deleted. > > That does not happen when I try it. C-d j

Re: wrapper fn for message and minibuffer-message?

2005-10-15 Thread Juri Linkov
> OK, I understand you now, I think. `message' does this: > > if `minibufferp', >then if `minibuffer-message-at-end' > then don't erase minibuffer, but append message there > else temporarily replace minibuffer contents with message >else temporarily replace any minibuffer c

Re: bug with file name completing

2005-10-15 Thread Eli Zaretskii
> From: "Richard M. Stallman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Sun, 09 Oct 2005 14:16:40 -0400 > Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org > > BTW, there is "CVS/" in completion-ignored-extensions by default, > but no "RCS/" and ",v". Should these extensions be added too? > > I am not sure why we wanted to ign

Re: TUTORIAL.gz

2005-10-15 Thread Eli Zaretskii
> Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 13:25:57 +0200 > From: LENNART BORGMAN <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], emacs-devel@gnu.org > > Does not compression create some difficulties for w32 users? They need gzip to be installed. So yes, it does add a difficulty, since stock Windo

sh-script fontification errors (error during display messages)

2005-10-15 Thread martin rudalics
Please disregard my previous mail. I mixed this up with the pre regexp-opt version. regexp-opt should duly insert the required group delimiters. ___ Emacs-devel mailing list Emacs-devel@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-devel

Re: Qs on key-description, substitute-command-keys

2005-10-15 Thread Juri Linkov
> Also, is there a good way to control which of several key bindings for a > command is output by `substitute-command-keys'? The only way > I've found is to make sure that the one I want is the last of the key > sequences for that command defined in the map - and that's not always >

M-g in dired

2005-10-15 Thread Juri Linkov
`M-g M-n' is a nice key binding for `next-error' (easy to type and mnemonic), but has one problem. Just imagine a quite likely scenario: the user switches to the dired buffer, invokes `compile' or `grep', and types `M-g M-n' to go to the first error displayed in the output buffer in another window

Re: Qs on key-description, substitute-command-keys

2005-10-15 Thread Stefan Monnier
> Does anyone know how to control which of several bindings for a command is > displayed by `substitute-command-keys'? There is no way to get this kind of control. `substitute-command-keys' has some rules such as "prefer a binding using plain ascii keys" (so it'll prefer C-x < over C-next, based

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sh-script fontification errors (error during display messages)

2005-10-15 Thread martin rudalics
Apparently the delimiters of the sixth group are missing. Unless this has been fixed already you could try: (defun sh-font-lock-keywords-1 (&optional builtins) "Function to get better fontification including keywords." (let ((keywords (concat "\\([;(){}`|&]\\|^\\)[ \t]*\\(\\("

Re: rcirc.el

2005-10-15 Thread David Kastrup
Miles Bader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > 2005/10/15, Ryan Yeske <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> Do you think the package should be renamed from "rcirc" to simply >> "irc"? > > "irc" would seem better to me. Depends on how many irc packages for Emacs are flying around and how farspread rcirc.el is. If