Re: `overlay-arrow-position' should be automatically buffer-local

2005-10-18 Thread Ryan Yeske
I think you've always been able to make overlay-arrow-position buffer-local. The problem arises when two arrows try to display in the _same_ buffer, then the local value masks the global value. Perhaps this will never happen in Gnus, but in case it does, a good way is to use overlay-ar

Re: ispell-aspell-find-dictionary: Opening input file: no such file or directory

2005-10-18 Thread Eugene Vlasov
On Tue, Oct 18, 2005 at 10:44:01PM -0400 Richard M. Stallman wrote: > This patch tries to preserve standard elements of ispell-dictionary-alist > for dictionaries that are not found by ispell-aspell-find-dictionary. > Does it do the job for you? Yes, with this patch I can check spell with russian

Re: `overlay-arrow-position' should be automatically buffer-local

2005-10-18 Thread Nick Roberts
>I believe the variable `overlay-arrow-position' should >automatically become buffer-local whenever it is set. > >It appears that Gnus fails to do this manually, instead >ending up setting the global value to a marker that refers >to the Gnus summary buffer, which doesn't

Re: `overlay-arrow-position' should be automatically buffer-local

2005-10-18 Thread Daniel Brockman
Ryan Yeske <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > - Variable: overlay-arrow-position > > [...] > > The overlay string is displayed only in the buffer > that this marker points into. Thus, only one buffer > can have an overlay arrow at any given time. > > Which I think was true in 21.

Re: Closing popup causes mouse event

2005-10-18 Thread YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
> On Tue, 18 Oct 2005 22:42:37 -0400, "Richard M. Stallman" <[EMAIL > PROTECTED]> said: > However, to fully implement the idea of events that Emacs should not > touch would require more change, as you said. That actually interferes with the C-g handling. So, suspending asynchronous inpu

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Re: rcirc.el

2005-10-18 Thread Ryan Yeske
David Kastrup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I think the basic entry points (and their aliases) at least should get > autoload cookies. What is the right way to do this given the way I conditionalized the defalias: (unless (fboundp 'irc) ;;;###autoload (defalias 'irc 'rcirc)) I think that is p

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Re: `overlay-arrow-position' should be automatically buffer-local

2005-10-18 Thread Ryan Yeske
I believe the variable `overlay-arrow-position' should automatically become buffer-local whenever it is set. It appears that Gnus fails to do this manually, instead ending up setting the global value to a marker that refers to the Gnus summary buffer, which doesn't make sense.

Re: ispell-aspell-find-dictionary: Opening input file: no such file or directory

2005-10-18 Thread Richard M. Stallman
This patch tries to preserve standard elements of ispell-dictionary-alist for dictionaries that are not found by ispell-aspell-find-dictionary. Does it do the job for you? *** ispell.el 09 Oct 2005 11:42:04 -0400 1.181 --- ispell.el 18 Oct 2005 21:48:24 -0400 *** *** 898

Re: Desktop saves isearch-mode

2005-10-18 Thread Richard M. Stallman
The first key activates search mode, the second key switches to the *Messages* buffer, and the third key continues to search for `a' in the *Messages* buffer with search mode still enabled. After exiting the search in the *Messages* buffer and switching back to the original buf

Re: Handling invalid HTML

2005-10-18 Thread Richard M. Stallman
3. Visiting Mozilla Firefox bookmark file in Emacs also can't detect the type of this file. Emacs opens it in SGML mode whereas it is actually HTML file. This problem is caused by the default value of `magic-mode-alist'. Maybe the `.html' extension in `auto-mode-alist' should

Re: Current time as floating point number

2005-10-18 Thread Richard M. Stallman
Isn't float-time what you want? ___ Emacs-devel mailing list Emacs-devel@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-devel

Re: string-match case sensivity depends on case-fold-search buffer local value?

2005-10-18 Thread Richard M. Stallman
I changed it to say Matching ignores case `case-fold-search' is non-nil. which is equally true, but less confusing. ___ Emacs-devel mailing list Emacs-devel@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-devel

Re: Entering filenames with spaces

2005-10-18 Thread Richard M. Stallman
Could someone please tell me how this differentiation would best be implemented? Does a filename-minibuffer have an extra keymap? Not at present, but giving it its own keymap is the cleanest way to do this job. Making the command check and distinguish the two cases would work, but i

Re: Searching in the minibuffer

2005-10-18 Thread Richard M. Stallman
> This doesn't work satisfactorily: temporarily displaying the search > prompt at the end of the minibuffer causes too long delay after typing > C-s and before point moves to the next occurrence of the search string. > > Could you be more specific? How long is the

Re: rcirc.el

2005-10-18 Thread Richard M. Stallman
Included is the latest version including (unless (fboundp 'irc) (defalias 'irc 'rcirc)) To minimize confusion, I think it makes sense to keep the original package name. Could you write a patch for etc/NEWS? Also, I agree with Stefan's suggestion to add a short expla

Re: compress files patch for mac/make-package

2005-10-18 Thread Richard M. Stallman
There were a handful of bugs with packages autoloading the .el file explicitly instead of just specifying the package name, I fixed them a few weeks ago. The Emacs CVS packages in Debian use compressed .el files since September 8th and apart from the aforementioned autoload bug

Re: Closing popup causes mouse event

2005-10-18 Thread Richard M. Stallman
It is easy to quit the loop inside the read_socket_hook function once a mouse-down event has been read. But there's another loop in the caller side, i.e., read_avail_input in keyboard.c: while (nr = (*read_socket_hook) (input_fd, expected, &hold_quit), nr > 0) {

Re: Yet another emacs icons

2005-10-18 Thread Richard M. Stallman
Now understand what people mean by "notebook icons", and I like them. Thanks very much for producing them. ___ Emacs-devel mailing list Emacs-devel@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-devel

`overlay-arrow-position' should be automatically buffer-local

2005-10-18 Thread Daniel Brockman
I believe the variable `overlay-arrow-position' should automatically become buffer-local whenever it is set. It appears that Gnus fails to do this manually, instead ending up setting the global value to a marker that refers to the Gnus summary buffer, which doesn't make sense. In fact, I see no r

Re: Saving minibuffer history

2005-10-18 Thread Hrvoje Niksic
Stefan Monnier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > For the case of start-itimer vs run-with-idle-timer, I can see you > point, so I've "reverted" the change. For the case of (if > (coding-system-p 'utf-8) 'utf-8 'iso-2022-8), I think the new code > is preferable, since the choice is really not dependen

Re: Amendments in calc-units.el

2005-10-18 Thread David Kastrup
Miles Bader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > 2005/10/19, David Kastrup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> It's too long to enter already. It would be an idea to offer all TeX >> dimensions with t prefixed: > ... >> Seems like this scheme is not feasible, either. > > I does seem interesting, and would be much m

split-height-threshold?

2005-10-18 Thread Stefan Monnier
What's up with split-height-threshold? Has anybody ever used it? It's compared to windw_height(window) and should thus be expressed in number of lines, but its default value of 500 is then basically equivalent to most-positive-fixnum. I.e. "never split". Was that really the intention? I see no

Re: Amendments in calc-units.el

2005-10-18 Thread Miles Bader
2005/10/19, David Kastrup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > It's too long to enter already. It would be an idea to offer all TeX > dimensions with t prefixed: ... > Seems like this scheme is not feasible, either. I does seem interesting, and would be much more practical if you just used "tex" as a prefix in

Re: Amendments in calc-units.el

2005-10-18 Thread David Kastrup
Jay Belanger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Miles Bader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > ... >>> Also, using "point" for point (of >>> whatever kind) and "tpt" for TeX point lacks symmetry; perhaps >>> "texpoint" for TeX point would be better. >> >> Well you're probably right that it should be "pspoin

Re: Amendments in calc-units.el

2005-10-18 Thread David Kastrup
Jay Belanger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Miles Bader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> 2005/10/16, Torsten Bronger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >>> Secondly, "point" should be renamed "bp" (big point). It's not >>> *the* point after all (but an invention by Adobe, as far as I know). >> >> I suspect more

Re: Amendments in calc-units.el

2005-10-18 Thread Jay Belanger
Miles Bader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: ... >> Also, using "point" for point (of >> whatever kind) and "tpt" for TeX point lacks symmetry; perhaps >> "texpoint" for TeX point would be better. > > Well you're probably right that it should be "pspoint", with an alias. That's a good idea, although I

Re: Amendments in calc-units.el

2005-10-18 Thread Miles Bader
2005/10/19, Jay Belanger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > I suspect more calc users use postscript points than "real points"... > > I don't have a strong opinion on this, but would using "point" for > PostScript point be less accurate? I dunno; I did a bit of googling the last time I searched, and the nam

Re: string-match case sensivity depends on case-fold-search buffer local value?

2005-10-18 Thread Henrik Enberg
Lennart Borgman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Kevin Rodgers wrote: > > >Lennart Borgman wrote: > > > >>I am beeing disturbed by this sentence in the docstring for > >>`string-match': > >> > >>Case is ignored if `case-fold-search' is non-nil in the current > >>buffer. > >> > >>Is this really

Re: Amendments in calc-units.el

2005-10-18 Thread Jay Belanger
Miles Bader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > 2005/10/16, Torsten Bronger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> Secondly, "point" should be renamed "bp" (big point). It's not >> *the* point after all (but an invention by Adobe, as far as I know). > > I suspect more calc users use postscript points than "real poin

Re: string-match case sensivity depends on case-fold-search buffer local value?

2005-10-18 Thread Lennart Borgman
Kevin Rodgers wrote: Lennart Borgman wrote: I am beeing disturbed by this sentence in the docstring for `string-match': Case is ignored if `case-fold-search' is non-nil in the current buffer. Is this really true? I hope so, otherwise how could you specify that the match must be cas

Re: string-match case sensivity depends on case-fold-search buffer local value?

2005-10-18 Thread Kevin Rodgers
Lennart Borgman wrote: I am beeing disturbed by this sentence in the docstring for `string-match': Case is ignored if `case-fold-search' is non-nil in the current buffer. Is this really true? I hope so, otherwise how could you specify that the match must be case-sensitive or case-insensit

Re: macos.texi updated

2005-10-18 Thread Adrian Robert
On Oct 11, 2005, at 10:44 AM, Richard M. Stallman wrote:      (I guess I was      trying to say, "drop XLFD, and if some functionality is lost, update      the lisp syntax to fix it".)We don't need to change Emacs for that.  You should be able, already,to do whatever you like in Emacs without using

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Re: Saving minibuffer history

2005-10-18 Thread Stefan Monnier
>> Thank you. Installed. Along with a few minor changes, mostly to >> remove run-time dependency on CL > These changes seem to make the code less readable. For example: > (delete-if-not #'savehist-printable value) > is changed to: > (delq nil (mapcar (lambda (x) (if (savehist-printab

Re: Entering filenames with spaces

2005-10-18 Thread Stefan Monnier
> Could someone please tell me how this differentiation would best > be implemented? > Does a filename-minibuffer have an extra keymap? > Or should Space be bound to some function that distinguishes the filename > case from others? (a little awkward...) AFAIK the normal way to distinguish it is

RE: Entering filenames with spaces

2005-10-18 Thread Drew Adams
Could someone please tell me how this differentiation would best be implemented? Does a filename-minibuffer have an extra keymap? Or should Space be bound to some function that distinguishes the filename case from others? (a little awkward...) I use this to distinguish file-nam

Handling invalid HTML

2005-10-18 Thread Jonathan Yavner
Juri Linkov writes: > 1. The valid string delimiter for HTML attribute values is the > quotation character. However, some HTML files on the Web use > apostrophes, e.g. > > The program that generates such non-standard meta headers is > identified as 'Microsoft DHTML Editing Control' (no surpris

Re: Saving minibuffer history

2005-10-18 Thread Hrvoje Niksic
Stefan Monnier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > 2. (defvar savehist-coding-system (if (string-match "XEmacs" emacs-version) > > 'iso-2022-8 > >'utf-8) > > Shouldn't it just use `emacs-mule'? This would ensure that no

Re: image size limit?

2005-10-18 Thread Stefan Monnier
>> But I don't think this limit should be absolute. I think it should be >> specified as a multiple of the frame height and width, and it should >> be given as a floating point number. I'd suggest 2.0 as the default >> for this ratio. My Emacs frames are typically 80 columns of 13x6, i.e. about

Re: mh-e/mh-loaddefs.el removed from CVS

2005-10-18 Thread Stefan Monnier
> I'm not sure how important it is to be able to start from a clean CVS > tree without checking it out fresh. For some people, checking out the whole CVS tree takes a long time. For subversions.gnu.org it also adds unnecessary load. Admittedly, this is not specific to Emacs, and arguably CVS shou

Re: Saving minibuffer history

2005-10-18 Thread Hrvoje Niksic
Stefan Monnier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Thank you. Installed. Along with a few minor changes, mostly to > remove run-time dependency on CL These changes seem to make the code less readable. For example: (delete-if-not #'savehist-printable value) is changed to: (delq nil (mapcar

Current time as floating point number

2005-10-18 Thread Hrvoje Niksic
For a while now I've been using the following function: (defun current-time-as-float () (let ((tm (current-time))) (+ (* 65536.0 (nth 0 tm)) (nth 1 tm) (/ (nth 2 tm) 100.0 (current-time-as-float) --> 1129642168.966545 It returns the current time as a single floatin

string-match case sensivity depends on case-fold-search buffer local value?

2005-10-18 Thread Lennart Borgman
I am beeing disturbed by this sentence in the docstring for `string-match': Case is ignored if `case-fold-search' is non-nil in the current buffer. Is this really true? ___ Emacs-devel mailing list Emacs-devel@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman

Documentation for dired-do-relsymlink in Dired-X manual

2005-10-18 Thread Sven Joachim
The documentation for the commands dired-do-relsymlink and dired-do-relsymlink-regexp in the Dired-X manual is flawed. These commands are erroneously named dired-do-relative-symlink and dired-do-relative-symlink-regexp in the manual. The fix is easy: Do s/dired-do-relative-symlink/dired-do-r

Re: Yet another emacs icons

2005-10-18 Thread Brad Collins
The slanted notebook with the horns is very good -- certainly the best I've seen so far. Most of the Emacs icons I've seen uses a gnu of some sort, and I would think many existing emacs uses associate emacs with those gnu images, even though this is not technically a correct association. For new

Re: C-p on second line in shell-mode moves to beginning of buffer

2005-10-18 Thread Sven Joachim
Richard M. Stallman wrote: In shell-mode, when point is on the second line (no matter which column), C-p (`previous-line') moves point to the beginning of the buffer. How comes that? Does this patch give good results? It seems so, yes. Thank you. :-) ___

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Re: Yet another emacs icons

2005-10-18 Thread Miles Bader
2005/10/18, Mathias Dahl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I like the non-notebook version of the 16 x 16 icon better. It seems > that trying to squeeze that into notebook-look makes it look "strange" > instead. Oh, I dunno, I think Andrew's idea of making it an "upright notebook" instead of slanted is a goo

Re: Entering filenames with spaces

2005-10-18 Thread David Reitter
On 17 Oct 2005, at 05:33, Richard M. Stallman wrote: Wait a minute! The change I agreed to was only for file name reading. The change you proposed would affect all kinds of completion. I don't want to do that. Uhh, sorry, that was a misunderstanding then. If I had to design this from scratch,

Re: CORRECT VERSION: tramp (2.0.51); tramp and file-name-all-completions

2005-10-18 Thread Michael Albinus
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kim F. Storm) writes: >>> I used it in ido, and it seems to work: >>> >>>;; work around bug in ange-ftp. >>>;; /ftp:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: => nil >>>;; /ftp:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:./ => ok >>>(and >>> (not (string= "/ftp:" dir))

Re: CORRECT VERSION: tramp (2.0.51); tramp and file-name-all-completions

2005-10-18 Thread Michael Albinus
Stefan Monnier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > The name "tramp-completion-mode" doesn't say what the variable does. > Could you find a better name? I'm not sure I understand what it does so > I'm not sure what other name to propose. You're right; -mode has a predefined meaning already. I'll try to

Re: rcirc.el

2005-10-18 Thread David Kastrup
Romain Francoise <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Ryan Yeske <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> ;;; rcirc.el --- emacs irc client > > Could you change this to "a minimal IRC client for Emacs", or something? > > Also, I agree with Stefan's suggestion to add a short explanation of how > rcirc compares to

Re: Yet another emacs icons

2005-10-18 Thread Mathias Dahl
Andrew Zhilin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >Following the discussion, I've decided to make a 16x16 "notebook" >version. Oh my, that was not easy =) Here's the result of my effort. >It does not satisfy me 100%, but after a certain point new iterations >just ceased to make things bet

Re: Searching in the minibuffer

2005-10-18 Thread Juri Linkov
> This doesn't work satisfactorily: temporarily displaying the search > prompt at the end of the minibuffer causes too long delay after typing > C-s and before point moves to the next occurrence of the search string. > > Could you be more specific? How long is the delay, and what cause

Re: Amendments in calc-units.el

2005-10-18 Thread Juri Linkov
>> There is no such thing as degrees Kelvin, there are only Kelvins. > > The question is whether its the business of calc to be convenient or > to educate. Of course, K should be available as a unit of its own, > but I see no harm by degK being an alias. Here is what units.dat contains: degK

Handling invalid HTML

2005-10-18 Thread Juri Linkov
Current rules of recognizing HTML files in Emacs are too strict: 1. The valid string delimiter for HTML attribute values is the quotation character. However, some HTML files on the Web use apostrophes, e.g. The program that generates such non-standard meta headers is identified as 'Microsoft D

Re: etc/TODO: command to make a "Local Variables" section

2005-10-18 Thread Juri Linkov
> How about the following? > > Upto now, it only adds a new section, but extending the function to > add a variable to an existing list can be done by using parts of > `hack-local-variables', AFAICS. I think this is a good starting point. As for its top-level interactive usage, I think that inste

Re: TUTORIAL.gz

2005-10-18 Thread Juri Linkov
> I think the warning is a good alternative. It would be very good if this > also could handle the case when there is no software available to handle > the compression (as might be the case on w32) in other situations (than > accessing tutorials etc). The warning it currently gives on Debian GNU/L

Re: Desktop saves isearch-mode

2005-10-18 Thread Juri Linkov
> When isearch leaves the buffer in isearch mode (this can happen after > switching buffers during incremental search), > > I think that is the bug. Isearch mode should not be left enabled. > > Can you debug that and fix it? The simplest way to reproduce this is to evaluate: (define-key

Re: lisp/toolbar is gone (was: Shall we use etc/images more?)

2005-10-18 Thread Andreas Schwab
Bill Wohler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > lisp/ldefs-boot.el contains the string: > > :26219:;; "toolbar/tool-bar.el" (17134 20613)) > > Is it worthwhile to check in the current loaddefs.el in its place? Feel free to do that any time. Andreas. -- Andreas Schwab, SuSE Labs, [EMAIL PROTEC

Re: rcirc.el

2005-10-18 Thread Romain Francoise
Ryan Yeske <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > ;;; rcirc.el --- emacs irc client Could you change this to "a minimal IRC client for Emacs", or something? Also, I agree with Stefan's suggestion to add a short explanation of how rcirc compares to other clients (along the lines of "it's designed to be li

Re: Using keyboard-interactive authentication added to source files

2005-10-18 Thread Lennart Borgman
Lennart Borgman wrote: I get a strange error when i check out files from CVS. For example doing an ediff-revision on w32term.h I got a line saying Using keyboard-interactive authentication. in the temporary checked out copy. I do not believe it worked like this before, I should have notic