Re: Fontification of citations in mail-Mode

2005-04-21 Thread Sascha Wilde
On Thu, Apr 21, 2005 at 11:31:07AM -0400, Richard Stallman wrote: > Perhaps we should have one face for comment delimiters and > another for comment text. Then the comment delimiter > face could be red on these terminals, while the comment text > font could be default on these terminals. I think

Re: Fontification of citations in mail-Mode

2005-04-21 Thread Eli Zaretskii
> From: Richard Stallman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > CC: emacs-devel@gnu.org > Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 11:31:07 -0400 > > Turning it off for cited text in Mail and Rmail is a much > smaller change with less downside, since the citation markers > are still fontified. I'm sure this will annoy many of thos

Re: Fontification of citations in mail-Mode

2005-04-21 Thread David Hansen
On Thu, 21 Apr 2005 11:31:07 -0400 Richard Stallman wrote: > I'm guessing that you use a standard terminal that supports 8 colors. > If so, look here: > > > (((class color) (min-colors 8) (background light)) > > (:foreground "red")) > > With just 8 colors, I doubt there is

Re: Fontification of citations in mail-Mode

2005-04-21 Thread Richard Stallman
I'm guessing that you use a standard terminal that supports 8 colors. If so, look here: > (((class color) (min-colors 8) (background light)) > (:foreground "red")) With just 8 colors, I doubt there is a better alternative. What are the standard 8 colors? I dislike red fo

Re: Fontification of citations in mail-Mode

2005-04-20 Thread Stefan Monnier
> It is also quite closely intertwined with the Gnus system, such as > being able to archive copies of posts in certain Gnus groups. The original intention was very clearly to replace mail-mode and to not be specific to Gnus. But since noone else picked it up, it has of course been difficult to m

Re: Fontification of citations in mail-Mode

2005-04-20 Thread David Kastrup
Richard Stallman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Nobody ever asked me about installing message-mode. It was > installed as "part of Gnus". I think the Gnus developers should > have talked with me before planning to implement another mode for > composing mail. Gnus handles quite a lot of functiona

Re: Fontification of citations in mail-Mode

2005-04-20 Thread Richard Stallman
Nobody ever asked me about installing message-mode. It was installed as "part of Gnus". I think the Gnus developers should have talked with me before planning to implement another mode for composing mail. ___ Emacs-devel mailing list Emacs-devel@gnu.o

Re: Fontification of citations in mail-Mode

2005-04-20 Thread Sascha Wilde
On Wed, Apr 20, 2005 at 10:57:25AM -0400, Richard Stallman wrote: > IMHO, the reason is, if nothing else, that this is how Mail mode > behaved on a tty since v21.1, and users did not complain too loudly > (or we would have changed that). > > Maybe hardly anyone used font lock on Rmail

Re: Fontification of citations in mail-Mode

2005-04-20 Thread Eli Zaretskii
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], emacs-devel@gnu.org > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kim F. Storm) > Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 10:04:58 +0200 > > > Failing that, here's a suggestion for a more complicated solution: > > define special faces for Mail mode, so that they could be customized > > without affecting gen

Re: Fontification of citations in mail-Mode

2005-04-20 Thread Eli Zaretskii
> From: Richard Stallman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > CC: emacs-devel@gnu.org > Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 10:57:25 -0400 > > Maybe hardly anyone used font lock on Rmail buffers in text consoles. I doubt that this is the case. (I certainly used Rmail on text consoles many times, but that's just me.) > I d

Re: Fontification of citations in mail-Mode

2005-04-20 Thread Richard Stallman
it's easier to distinguish cited text from the rest of the buffer content, even without looking at the beginning of the lines. I find it easy to distinguish with the citation markers fontified. They are bright red and very visible. ___ Emacs-de

Re: Fontification of citations in mail-Mode

2005-04-20 Thread Richard Stallman
IMHO, the reason is, if nothing else, that this is how Mail mode behaved on a tty since v21.1, and users did not complain too loudly (or we would have changed that). Maybe hardly anyone used font lock on Rmail buffers in text consoles. I don't know how to try changing this, because I

Re: Fontification of citations in mail-Mode

2005-04-20 Thread Kim F. Storm
"Eli Zaretskii" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> From: Richard Stallman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >> Anyway, I don't see any reason why cited text should be fontified. > It makes a lot of sense to me. It just makes it so much easier to write longer responses (which I know RMS doesn't do very often :

Re: Fontification of citations in mail-Mode

2005-04-19 Thread Miles Bader
On 4/20/05, Richard Stallman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > There may not be many choices on a text console. Anyway, I don't > see any reason why cited text should be fontified. I find it helps a lot to focus my eye when writing a mail-message with lots of cited text; it makes it much easier to see

Re: Fontification of citations in mail-Mode

2005-04-19 Thread Eli Zaretskii
> From: Richard Stallman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > CC: emacs-devel@gnu.org > Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 12:13:54 -0400 > > Anyway, I don't see any reason why cited text should be fontified. IMHO, the reason is, if nothing else, that this is how Mail mode behaved on a tty since v21.1, and users did not co

Re: Fontification of citations in mail-Mode

2005-04-19 Thread Sascha Wilde
On Tue, Apr 19, 2005 at 12:13:54PM -0400, Richard Stallman wrote: > In that case, wouldn't it be sufficient to change the default font > used for cited text? > > There may not be many choices on a text console. This is a general problem of font-lock-mode on a text console. As I wrote

Re: Fontification of citations in mail-Mode

2005-04-19 Thread Richard Stallman
In that case, wouldn't it be sufficient to change the default font used for cited text? There may not be many choices on a text console. Anyway, I don't see any reason why cited text should be fontified. ___ Emacs-devel mailing list Emacs-deve

Re: Fontification of citations in mail-Mode

2005-04-19 Thread Sascha Wilde
On Mon, Apr 18, 2005 at 05:06:36PM -0400, Richard Stallman wrote: > mail/sendmail.el were changed, so that teh text of citations is no > longer fontified (only the leading mark, normally "> " is...). > > Why was that change made? > > Because I found the cited text hard to read with th

Re: Fontification of citations in mail-Mode

2005-04-18 Thread Richard Stallman
mail/sendmail.el were changed, so that teh text of citations is no longer fontified (only the leading mark, normally "> " is...). Why was that change made? Because I found the cited text hard to read with that font. ___ Emacs-devel mailing

Fontification of citations in mail-Mode

2005-04-18 Thread Sascha Wilde
On 2005/04/17 the font-lock-keywords in mail/rmail.el and mail/sendmail.el were changed, so that teh text of citations is no longer fontified (only the leading mark, normally "> " is...). Why was that change made? I found it much easier to distinguish cites and different levels of citations when