Re: [O] Citation syntax: Underscore MUST(?) be allowed in cite keys?

2015-03-08 Thread Rasmus
t...@tsdye.com (Thomas S. Dye) writes: Bibtex.el is not that hard to configure. I think I have something like this to configure FIRSTAUTHOR-YY (without the hyphen): (setq bibtex-autokey-titlewords 0 bibtex-autokey-titlewords-stretch 0 bibtex-autokey-titleword-length 0

Re: [O] Bleeding edge in elpa

2015-03-08 Thread Achim Gratz
Nikolai Weibull writes: Is trying to manage it via git+make oneself less likely to cause incidents? There's a bunch of people who seem to manage it just fine. From the FAQ: The master branch of the git repository always contains the bleeding edge development code. This is important for

Re: [O] Bleeding edge in elpa

2015-03-08 Thread Nikolai Weibull
On Sun, Mar 8, 2015 at 6:59 PM, Achim Gratz strom...@nexgo.de wrote: Nikolai Weibull writes: Is trying to manage it via git+make oneself less likely to cause incidents? There's a bunch of people who seem to manage it just fine. Did I say otherwise? Does this preclude making an alternative

Re: [O] Bleeding edge in elpa

2015-03-08 Thread T.F. Torrey
A major benefit of an ELPA version of the bleeding edge version of Org is that it enables those of us who run Emacs and Org on machines where we can not install git (or just do not want to) to have the latest version of Org nonetheless. In a real-world situation, I want to collaborate on Org

Re: [O] Bleeding edge in elpa

2015-03-08 Thread Rasmus
Achim Gratz strom...@nexgo.de writes: Rasmus writes: I agree. I have the same problem when I build documents (via CI) on a remote Debian server where I don't want to mess around with anything more than what comes with Emacs by default. You can use a tarball and the support for manual

Re: [O] [bug?] org-repair-property-drawers does not repair whole file

2015-03-08 Thread Nicolas Goaziou
Gregor Zattler telegr...@gmx.net writes: Sadly no: I reapplied `org-repair-property-drawers' on my org file with no customisation at all: emacs-snapshot -Q -nw -L /home/grfz/src/org-mode/lisp/ file.org ~/src/org-mode/etc/ORG-NEWS I loaded `org-repair-property-drawers' from

Re: [O] Zotero csl file that uses parenthetical style for citations

2015-03-08 Thread Thomas S. Dye
Aloha Vaidheeswaran C, Vaidheeswaran C vaidheeswaran.chinnar...@gmail.com writes: On Sunday 08 March 2015 09:29 AM, Thomas S. Dye wrote: Is your doubt about his eventual success founded in a general skepticism about predicting the future (certainly warranted), or in some particular

Re: [O] Bleeding edge in elpa

2015-03-08 Thread Rasmus
Nikolai Weibull n...@disu.se writes: Having both a stable and an unstable version of Org avilable via ELPA is a non-starter for the simple reason that the package manager can't deal with the versioning problems this would introduce. This could, I assume, and was sort of implied in my

Re: [O] [bug?] org-repair-property-drawers does not repair whole file

2015-03-08 Thread Gregor Zattler
Hi Nicolas, * Nicolas Goaziou m...@nicolasgoaziou.fr [08. Mar. 2015]: Unfortunately it doesn't ring a bell. Running `org-repair-property-drawers' on your file repairs it. Would it be related to `org-inlinetask' (i.e., different behaviour if the library is loaded or not)? Sadly no: I

Re: [O] Bleeding edge in elpa

2015-03-08 Thread Rasmus
Hi, tftor...@tftorrey.com (T.F. Torrey) writes: I want to collaborate on Org files with my wife and parents, ^^^ Do you? It sounds cool! In a real-world situation, I want to collaborate on Org files with my wife and parents, and I want to use the current best version of Org

Re: [O] Bleeding edge in elpa

2015-03-08 Thread Achim Gratz
Rasmus writes: I agree. I have the same problem when I build documents (via CI) on a remote Debian server where I don't want to mess around with anything more than what comes with Emacs by default. You can use a tarball and the support for manual builds, described in:

Re: [O] Bleeding edge in elpa

2015-03-08 Thread Achim Gratz
Rasmus writes: You can use a tarball and the support for manual builds, described in: http://orgmode.org/worg/dev/org-build-system.html#sec-7 I have no desire to use anything more than what comes with emacs-24-nox on this system. You can download any git commit directly from orgmode.org as a

Re: [O] Citation syntax: Underscore MUST(?) be allowed in cite keys?

2015-03-08 Thread Stefan Nobis
Richard Lawrence richard.lawre...@berkeley.edu writes: Like I said, this seems like an edge case, and I don't see that it is necessarily Org's responsibility to accommodate the keys produced by Zotero in such edge cases. And there is a significant benefit to *not* accommodating such keys:

Re: [O] Small bug? org-narrow-to-subtree and open file link

2015-03-08 Thread Igor Sosa Mayor
James K. Lin james2k2...@yahoo.com writes: By default, Org mode does not work well with indirect buffers. You could get around this by rolling your own version of functions on your own to ignore the base buffer. This is no small feat because the link navigation commands are nested. I

Re: [O] Citation syntax: Underscore MUST(?) be allowed in cite keys?

2015-03-08 Thread Thomas S. Dye
Aloha Richard, Richard Lawrence richard.lawre...@berkeley.edu writes: Hi Tom and all, t...@tsdye.com (Thomas S. Dye) writes: As I see it, the choice boils down to the relative benefit of citation shortcuts vs. the limitation of requiring authors to configure the citation manager so it

Re: [O] Plotting in Python block won't over-write existing file

2015-03-08 Thread Richard Stanton
Date: Fri, 06 Mar 2015 14:21:54 -0500 From: Nick Dokos ndo...@gmail.com To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Subject: Re: [O] Plotting in Python block won't over-write existing file Message-ID: 87sidi9bjh@alphaville.usersys.redhat.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Richard

Re: [O] Zotero csl file that uses parenthetical style for citations

2015-03-08 Thread Vaidheeswaran C
On Sunday 08 March 2015 11:04 PM, Thomas S. Dye wrote: Thankfully, Richard demonstrated to his satisfaction that an off-the-shelf CSL style could be made to handle this situation. If this is the only potential problem you see, then this gives me hope that Richard will succeed in implementing

Re: [O] Citation syntax: Underscore MUST(?) be allowed in cite keys?

2015-03-08 Thread Rasmus
t...@tsdye.com (Thomas S. Dye) writes: Rasmus ras...@gmx.us writes: Nicolas Goaziou m...@nicolasgoaziou.fr writes: I'm asking because I haven't fully grasped uses for the shorthand. What is the use case? More readable, I guess. I agree. In time, org-reftex would insert @key if no

Re: [O] Multicite syntax

2015-03-08 Thread Vaidheeswaran C
I have fixed up ox-jabref.el to support multicites. Only common prefixes and suffixes are handled. I don't know how to handle per-key prefix/suffix-es. If someone has any complaints about the output, please write to me. Attaching files that I have used for testing. (Author-Date file lacks

Re: [O] Citation syntax: Underscore MUST(?) be allowed in cite keys?

2015-03-08 Thread Richard Lawrence
Hi Tom and all, t...@tsdye.com (Thomas S. Dye) writes: As I see it, the choice boils down to the relative benefit of citation shortcuts vs. the limitation of requiring authors to configure the citation manager so it doesn't produce a key ending in punctuation (or your solution that uses

Re: [O] [ox-ascii, bug?] aligning text withing footnotes

2015-03-08 Thread Nicolas Goaziou
Rasmus ras...@gmx.us writes: What I want to do is simpler. I want to subtract the length between [1] and [fn:1] from every line between :begin and :end of the footnote-definition. Differences other than the three character difference between [fn:1] and [1] I don't care about. This is not

Re: [O] Bleeding edge in elpa

2015-03-08 Thread Aaron Ecay
Hi Nikolai, IMO this is a bad idea. The bleeding edge version is expected to be somewhat unstable, and exposing it via ELPA will lead to foot-shooting incidents. On the other hand, it would be nice to have more regular releases from master to maint. AFAIK the last one was a year and a half ago

Re: [O] Beamer Hello World Help Request

2015-03-08 Thread Matthew Gidden
FWIW, I was a complete noob and was exporting to a Latex PDF (C-c C-e l p) instead of a Beamer PDF (C-c C-e l P). Sorry for spamming the list! On Sat, Mar 7, 2015 at 7:50 PM, Matthew Gidden gid...@wisc.edu wrote: Hi folks, I've been trying to follow the getting started tutorials

Re: [O] Multicite syntax

2015-03-08 Thread Nicolas Goaziou
Vaidheeswaran C vaidheeswaran.chinnar...@gmail.com writes: Note that, as a consequence, the new object is incompatible with the previous one, since every citation is a multi-cite citation. See commit message for details. Just a quick feedback. (:parenthetical nil :begin 807 :post-blank 0

[O] [ox-ascii, bug] TOC-keyword doesn't work

2015-03-08 Thread Rasmus
Hi, Consider the following file: #+OPTIONS: toc:nil author:nil * h1 #+TOC: headlines 2 * h2 ** h3 Expected output includes the TOC. Actual output is 1 h1 Table of Contents ─ 2 h2 2.1 h3 ── The TOC is there when #+OPTIONS: toc:t, but then you can't

Re: [O] [ox-ascii, bug] TOC-keyword doesn't work

2015-03-08 Thread Nicolas Goaziou
Hello, Rasmus ras...@gmx.us writes: Consider the following file: #+OPTIONS: toc:nil author:nil * h1 #+TOC: headlines 2 * h2 ** h3 Expected output includes the TOC. Actual output is 1 h1 Table of Contents ─ 2 h2 2.1 h3 ── The TOC is

Re: [O] Bug: org-habit treats all repeat tasks as .+ type [7.9.3f (release_7.9.3f-17-g7524ef @ /usr/share/emacs/24.3/lisp/org/)]

2015-03-08 Thread Nicolas Goaziou
Leo He leodream2...@gmail.com writes: On the other hand, I am writing a shell script to move each entry's PROPERTIES drawer to its beginning. Though I think elisp can handle this more easily, I am not familiar with it (still learning :-) ). I wonder if there is an existing function or script

Re: [O] [bug?] org-repair-property-drawers does not repair whole file

2015-03-08 Thread Nicolas Goaziou
Hello, Gregor Zattler telegr...@gmx.net writes: I invoked org-repair-property-drawers on a fairly large org-mode file. It did sort some PROPERTIES drawers in front of LOGBOOK ones but not all. Since I do not understand the logic of org-repair-property-drawers I prepared a file with the

Re: [O] Citation syntax: Underscore MUST(?) be allowed in cite keys?

2015-03-08 Thread Thomas S. Dye
Aloha Rasmus, Rasmus ras...@gmx.us writes: t...@tsdye.com (Thomas S. Dye) writes: Rasmus ras...@gmx.us writes: Nicolas Goaziou m...@nicolasgoaziou.fr writes: I'm asking because I haven't fully grasped uses for the shorthand. What is the use case? More readable, I guess. I agree. In

Re: [O] Bleeding edge in elpa

2015-03-08 Thread Nikolai Weibull
On Sun, Mar 8, 2015 at 3:17 PM, Aaron Ecay aarone...@gmail.com wrote: IMO this is a bad idea. The bleeding edge version is expected to be somewhat unstable, and exposing it via ELPA will lead to foot-shooting incidents. Is trying to manage it via git+make oneself less likely to cause