Re: Concrete suggestions to improve Org mode third-party integration :: an afterthought following Karl Voit's Orgdown proposal

2021-12-09 Thread Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
Tim Cross writes: > What really doesn't help is to immediately jump to extremes and start > talking about making something volatile just because change is > mentioned. I am wording this so strongly because we currently have talk about creating more abstract org syntax. This is the situation in

Re: Concrete suggestions to improve Org mode third-party integration :: an afterthought following Karl Voit's Orgdown proposal

2021-12-09 Thread Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
Tim Cross writes: > Russell Adams writes: >> That Org can also be used to export to other formats is both a >> blessing and a curse. Org can only do high level constructs in the >> languages it exports to, and really should only be expected to do just >> that. It's a paper thin macro or templ

Re: Concrete suggestions to improve Org mode third-party integration :: an afterthought following Karl Voit's Orgdown proposal

2021-12-09 Thread Timothy
Hi Arne, > I am wording this so strongly because we currently have talk about > creating more abstract org syntax. > > This is the situation in which the temptation to skip backwards > compatibility is highest — as is the cost of that, because not updating > will quickly not be an option (because

Re: Concrete suggestions to improve Org mode third-party integration :: an afterthought following Karl Voit's Orgdown proposal

2021-12-09 Thread Ihor Radchenko
Timothy writes: > For the sake of staying vaguely on-track, I think it’s worth noting that > Ihor’s > comments make no mention of changing the Org syntax, or creating an abstract > definition (that has existed as a WIP for years). I think Dr. Babenhauser referred to another ongoing thread "Raw

org-cite and export to ODT

2021-12-09 Thread 陈贤文
I have been using org-ref and biblatex. They export well to PDF, through LaTeX. I am able to export to ODT as well. However, I'm not able to have the bibliography or the references in the produced ODT. I searched online and found this tutorial: https://kjambunathan.github.io/org-mode-ox-odt/Biblio

Re: Concrete suggestions to improve Org mode third-party integration :: an afterthought following Karl Voit's Orgdown proposal

2021-12-09 Thread Eric S Fraga
On Wednesday, 8 Dec 2021 at 17:16, Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide wrote: > If you have 1400 slides of lectures, all carefully laid out to convey Been there, done that. 😞 I've learned to not upgrade org (or Emacs) for a few weeks before the start of term! I am a big fan of backwards compatibility but

Re: Raw Org AST snippets for "impossible" markup

2021-12-09 Thread Max Nikulin
On 09/12/2021 14:01, Juan Manuel Macías wrote: John Kitchin writes: Have you seen https://github.com/tj64/org-dp? It seems to do a lot with creating and manipulating org elements. It might either be handy or lead to some inspiration. Interesting package. Thanks for sharing. Either I missed

Re: org-cite and export to ODT

2021-12-09 Thread John Kitchin
If you are trying to use org-ref for this see https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRR-5NSpKyE and this example: https://github.com/jkitchin/org-ref/blob/master/examples/basic-csl.org#opendocument. You need to use a preprocessing hook (org-ref-csl-preprocess-buffer) with org-ref to get the citations and

Re: Concrete suggestions to improve Org mode third-party integration :: an afterthought following Karl Voit's Orgdown proposal

2021-12-09 Thread Russell Adams
On Thu, Dec 09, 2021 at 10:46:34AM +, Eric S Fraga wrote: > Org v8 in particular was a major step forward but broke many of my > org files. I know we're beating a dead horse, but can you clarify. Did Org break your Org editing experience in Emacs for your Org files, or did this change just br

Re: Raw Org AST snippets for "impossible" markup

2021-12-09 Thread Juan Manuel Macías
Max Nikulin writes: > Looking into your code I have realized that it should be implemented > using filter, not through :export property of links. Maybe without > working proof of concept with link exporters, this session of > monkey-typing would not be successful. Jumping into the "real world"

Re: Concrete suggestions to improve Org mode third-party integration :: an afterthought following Karl Voit's Orgdown proposal

2021-12-09 Thread Eric S Fraga
On Thursday, 9 Dec 2021 at 16:21, Russell Adams wrote: > Did Org break your Org editing experience in Emacs for your Org files, > or did this change just break some of the finer formatting details of > your exported Org file? It's been a while but, IIRC, the latter to a large extent; I should hav

Re: Org-cite stuck in Helm minibuffer [9.5.1 (9.5.1-g36086a @ /home/dan/.emacs.d/elpa/org-9.5.1/)]

2021-12-09 Thread Eric S Fraga
On Wednesday, 8 Dec 2021 at 17:33, Bruce D'Arcus wrote: > If you like Selectrum (Vertico is another recent, similar, > alternative), you might give citar a try. > > https://github.com/bdarcus/citar +1 Works very well for me with selectrum. -- : Eric S Fraga, with org release_9.5.1-243-gad53c5

Hourly repeating tasks only shown once per day in org-agenda

2021-12-09 Thread JG
Hi, I'm using fresh git copies of emacs and orgmode on an Ubuntu 21.10 VM with the following commit levels from git log -1: emacs: commit 6ecb24f877242371a0dbc7938e9b408df2690dc7 (HEAD -> master, origin/master, origin/HEAD) orgmode: commit 14ed651db0ef822d1b5491a376b66283da9b9349 (HEAD -> main,

Re: org-tag-persistent-alist AND per-file dynamic tags

2021-12-09 Thread Victor A. Stoichita
Hi Chris, Le 29 Nov 2021, chris a écrit : > I use footnote 53 from https://orgmode.org/manual/Setting-Tags.html[1]. > I put my tags in `tags-file.org`, using `#+TAGS:`. > I've put the next two lines in `init.el`. > > (setq org-agenda-files (list "~/path-to/tags-file.org") > org-complete

[BUG] Inconsistent behaviour of TODO + COMMENT + TODO dependencies + agenda? [9.5 (9.5-g0a86ad @ /home/ignacio/.emacs.d/elpa/org-9.5/)]

2021-12-09 Thread Ignacio Casso
Hello, I'm not sure what is the expected behaviour of the COMMENT keyword for TODOs and the agenda, since I only found it in the "Exporting" section of the manual, but I find the following behaviour inconsistent: - Tasks with a COMMENT keyword or under a heading with a COMMENT keyword do not ap

[BUG] Agenda display + blocked habits + org-agenda-dim-blocked-tasks set to 'invisible

2021-12-09 Thread Ignacio Casso
Hello, I think I've found a bug in the agenda display when 'org-agenda-dim-blocked-tasks' is set to 'invisible', and there is a task that is a habit (i.e., 'STYLE' property set to 'habit') and is blocked (e.g., because 'org-enforce-todo-dependencies' is set to 't' or there is an 'ORDERED' propert

[BUG] Eval src block does not redisplay inline image [9.5.1 (9.5.1-g36086a @ /Users/rob/.emacs.d/elpa/org-9.5.1/)]

2021-12-09 Thread Robert Nikander
I’m trying to use Org mode like a Jupyter notebook. I’ve got something working, but for graphic plots, I have to call `org-display-inline-images` after every call to `org-babel-execute-src-block`. I guess there is a work-around, described here: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/54269390/how-t

Re: Patch to align baseline of latex fragments and surrounding text

2021-12-09 Thread Sébastien Miquel
Hi, Matt Huszagh writes: I feel that maybe it would be useful to attach screenshots to show the improvement from this patch? Anyway, I've attached two images: one with the correct baseline alignment to surrounding text and the other with the current, incorrect, baseline alignment. I think a lot

Re: Concrete suggestions to improve Org mode third-party integration :: an afterthought following Karl Voit's Orgdown proposal

2021-12-09 Thread Samuel Wales
i think the big change was v9. On 12/9/21, Eric S Fraga wrote: > On Thursday, 9 Dec 2021 at 16:21, Russell Adams wrote: >> Did Org break your Org editing experience in Emacs for your Org files, >> or did this change just break some of the finer formatting details of >> your exported Org file? >

Re: org-cite and export to ODT

2021-12-09 Thread András Simonyi
Dear All, On Thu, 9 Dec 2021 at 10:54, Xianwen Chen (陈贤文) wrote: > Thinking about the new org-cite, which is orgmode's native citation solution, > I'm wondering if it would be easier to use org-cite within orgmode and export > to ODT? A small example with configuration suggestion will be highl

Re: Raw Org AST snippets for "impossible" markup

2021-12-09 Thread Juan Manuel Macías
Juan Manuel Macías writes: > Jumping into the "real world", how about these two examples of nested > emphasis? By the way, what do you think about allowing the use of some kind of aliases, so that the aspect is less verbose? Maybe something like "(i::" instead of "(italic () ..."? I came up with

Re: Patch to align baseline of latex fragments and surrounding text

2021-12-09 Thread Matt Huszagh
Sébastien Miquel writes: > This looks great indeed but I've failed to reproduce in my > environment. Thanks for testing this Sébastien. > I couldn't get ~org--match-text-baseline-ascent~ to compute the > ascent : the ~xml-get-attribute~ call returns >  : ("-16.945024" "12.153473" "16.148855" "

Re: Concrete suggestions to improve Org mode third-party integration :: an afterthought following Karl Voit's Orgdown proposal

2021-12-09 Thread Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
Russell Adams writes: > Did Org break your Org editing experience in Emacs for your Org files, > or did this change just break some of the finer formatting details of > your exported Org file? The change to electric indent broke my workflow badly (always having to undo the indentation after eve

bug#52392: 29.0.50; org-priority 'SPC to remove' doesn't work

2021-12-09 Thread Kyle Meyer
forcemerge 52341 52392 quit Bruce E. Robertson writes: > 1. in init.el: > (custom-set-variables > '(org-priority-default 32) > '(org-priority-highest 0) > '(org-priority-lowest 31) > ) > 2. position to line in .org file: [...] This looks like a duplicate of https://debbugs.gnu.org/52341 (whic

bug#52399: 28.0.60; easier access to ORG-NEWS

2021-12-09 Thread Kyle Meyer
Mike Kupfer writes: > Finding ORG-NEWS seems harder than it should be. > > 1. The "Browse Org News" menu item (Org > Documentation > Browse Org > News) isn't adequate, because it takes you to orgmode.org. The package > description (C-h P org RET) has the same problem. If you're working > offline

Re: Concrete suggestions to improve Org mode third-party integration :: an afterthought following Karl Voit's Orgdown proposal

2021-12-09 Thread Tim Cross
"Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide" writes: > [[PGP Signed Part:Undecided]] > > Russell Adams writes: > >> Did Org break your Org editing experience in Emacs for your Org files, >> or did this change just break some of the finer formatting details of >> your exported Org file? > > The change to electr

bug#52341: Fwd: 29.0.50; org-priority 'SPC to remove' doesn't work

2021-12-09 Thread Kyle Meyer
close 52341 quit Kyle Meyer writes: > I suppose one solution would be to check for " " and translate that to > the ?\s so that the remove is triggered. I'll plan to apply the change > below to Org's bugfix branch in a day or two unless the author of the > above commit (+cc) or someone else has a

bug#52399: 28.0.60; easier access to ORG-NEWS

2021-12-09 Thread Kévin Le Gouguec
Kyle Meyer writes: >> 3. The entry in NEWS for the Org mode update mentions ORG-NEWS, but it >> doesn't say how to get to it. (Yes, I know how to get to ORG-NEWS from >> NEWS. Do we expect random users to understand the layout of an >> installed Emacs at that level of detail?) > > And I guess t

Re: [BUG] Eval src block does not redisplay inline image [9.5.1 (9.5.1-g36086a @ /Users/rob/.emacs.d/elpa/org-9.5.1/)]

2021-12-09 Thread Greg Minshall
Robert, i have the following commented out in my .emacs. i have no memory of it, why i put it in, why i took it out, or if it might provide you any clue. but, with all those caveats... ;; in org-mode, display images inline after execution ;; except, after a while, this gets tiresome. one c