Re: [O] [Out-of-Thread] Re: [RFC] Org syntax (draft)

2013-04-11 Thread Bastien
Hi Nicolas, Nicolas Goaziou writes: > We can also use a very simple and tolerant regexp (e.g. =[^\000]+=), and > introduce a syntax to escape markers for fine-grained control. FWIW this looks like the correct approach to me. -- Bastien

Re: [O] [Out-of-Thread] Re: [RFC] Org syntax (draft)

2013-04-11 Thread Bastien
Hi Carsten, Carsten Dominik writes: > Keeping this variable a customize variable invites changes also by > people who do not really know what they are doing. Turning it into > a defvar or defconst and somewhere document how to hack around the > restriction if you really need to sounds like a go

Re: [O] [Out-of-Thread] Re: [RFC] Org syntax (draft)

2013-03-21 Thread Nicolas Goaziou
Hello, Carsten Dominik writes: > First of all, we should not see Org as just another plain text markup > language (no offense meant, I am sure, and none taken). Because of its > unique treatment of source code inclusion, source code markup, and > executability, it is very much unique, I think.

Re: [O] [Out-of-Thread] Re: [RFC] Org syntax (draft)

2013-03-20 Thread zeltak
Hi again Thank you all for the responses. So as a neewb again, I dont really understand fully all the technical specifications from the above posts, what do you guys recommended i do if i want to start moving and using org now full time in terms of color support? should i use the current emp. meth

Re: [O] [Out-of-Thread] Re: [RFC] Org syntax (draft)

2013-03-19 Thread Nicolas Richard
Carsten Dominik writes: > Another example is the emphasis stuff. There are no in-buffer > settings for it, and they would be pretty hard to make. An in-buffer way of doing elisp is File Local Variables ; or is that not appropriate ? Maybe the question I'm askign is : why were "#+KEYWORD" lines f

Re: [O] [Out-of-Thread] Re: [RFC] Org syntax (draft)

2013-03-18 Thread Aaron Ecay
Hi Carsten, Thank you for your very insightful thoughts. I would like to make one note. 2013ko martxoak 18an, Carsten Dominik-ek idatzi zuen: > Now to the discussion with Z about additional emphasis definitions > which he/she uses for custom highlighting of stuff. Right now this > relies on mo

Re: [O] [Out-of-Thread] Re: [RFC] Org syntax (draft)

2013-03-18 Thread Rasmus
Carsten Dominik writes: > The reason why the emphasis regexp components were made configurable > in the first place is because when the feature was introduced, I had > no idea what would work, and I redesigned this part several times > over. Emphasis is a very heuristic system, the character tha

Re: [O] [Out-of-Thread] Re: [RFC] Org syntax (draft)

2013-03-18 Thread Carsten Dominik
Hi everyone, first a disclaimer: Nicolas has thought about all things parser a lot more than I have, so he might disagree. But here is my take on the issue. First of all, we should not see Org as just another plain text markup language (no offense meant, I am sure, and none taken). Because o

Re: [O] [Out-of-Thread] Re: [RFC] Org syntax (draft)

2013-03-18 Thread Marcin Borkowski
Dnia 2013-03-18, o godz. 15:21:54 wgreenho...@riseup.net (W. Greenhouse) napisał(a): > Perhaps a compromise could be reached on variables such as > `org-emphasis-alist' and others possibly slated for the defconst > treatment: instead of doing that, let's consider keeping them > customizable but in

Re: [O] [Out-of-Thread] Re: [RFC] Org syntax (draft)

2013-03-18 Thread W. Greenhouse
zeltak writes: > Dear Carsten, > > Thank you for your quick reply. Let me start by first thanking you > for your great work on orgmode, I only recently discovered it > (someone referred me to your great talk on youtube) and it made me > have the courage to start learning emacs and use orgmode. [

Re: [O] [Out-of-Thread] Re: [RFC] Org syntax (draft)

2013-03-18 Thread zeltak
Dear Carsten, Thank you for your quick reply. Let me start by first thanking you for your great work on orgmode, I only recently discovered it (someone referred me to your great talk on youtube) and it made me have the courage to start learning emacs and use orgmode. I (actually me and several c

Re: [O] [Out-of-Thread] Re: [RFC] Org syntax (draft)

2013-03-18 Thread Thorsten Jolitz
Carsten Dominik writes: > can you show an example on how you use it? Maybe we can find a better way. > Nicolas is right that portability is compromised by customizable emphasis. > On 18.3.2013, at 00:02, zeltak wrote: >> I find the ability to add custom emphasise with custom faces invaluable.

Re: [O] [Out-of-Thread] Re: [RFC] Org syntax (draft)

2013-03-18 Thread Carsten Dominik
Hi Z, can you show an example on how you use it? Maybe we can find a better way. Nicolas is right that portability is compromised by customizable emphasis. - Carsten On 18.3.2013, at 00:02, zeltak wrote: > Hi all > > i just finished a great conversation on #org-mode with some great peopl

Re: [O] [Out-of-Thread] Re: [RFC] Org syntax (draft)

2013-03-17 Thread zeltak
Hi all i just finished a great conversation on #org-mode with some great people. they told me about this thread and the planned changes that may or may not occur to the syntax and id like to just raise the newbee perspective. I find the ability to add custom emphasise with custom faces invaluable

Re: [O] [Out-of-Thread] Re: [RFC] Org syntax (draft)

2013-03-14 Thread Jambunathan K
David Engster writes: > Jambunathan K. writes: >> David Engster writes: >> >>> Jambunathan K. writes: I know that. But that doesn't answer the question why Carsten will appear in the To header of a mail that I reply to a mail I receive from Eric S Fraga. >>> >>> Because Car

Re: [O] [Out-of-Thread] Re: [RFC] Org syntax (draft)

2013-03-14 Thread David Engster
Jambunathan K. writes: > David Engster writes: > >> Jambunathan K. writes: >>> I know that. >>> >>> But that doesn't answer the question why Carsten will appear in the To >>> header of a mail that I reply to a mail I receive from Eric S Fraga. >> >> Because Carsten started the thread and did not

Re: [O] [Out-of-Thread] Re: [RFC] Org syntax (draft)

2013-03-14 Thread Jambunathan K
David Engster writes: > Jambunathan K. writes: >> I know that. >> >> But that doesn't answer the question why Carsten will appear in the To >> header of a mail that I reply to a mail I receive from Eric S Fraga. > > Because Carsten started the thread and did not set MFT. In this very specific

Re: [O] [Out-of-Thread] Re: [RFC] Org syntax (draft)

2013-03-14 Thread David Engster
Jambunathan K. writes: > I know that. > > But that doesn't answer the question why Carsten will appear in the To > header of a mail that I reply to a mail I receive from Eric S Fraga. Because Carsten started the thread and did not set MFT. -David

[O] [Out-of-Thread] Re: [RFC] Org syntax (draft)

2013-03-14 Thread Jambunathan K
David Engster writes: > Jambunathan K. writes: >> Still you haven't answered my "Fudging the mail reply headers" question >> to my satisfaction. > > http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/message/Mailing-Lists.html > > "A mailing list poster can use MFT to express that responses shoul