I want to add to the thanks to everybody for making speed improvements.
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> Date: Sat, 13 Apr 2013 13:24:13 +0100
> From: "Sean O'Halpin"
> Cc: Carsten Dominik , Org Mode
>
>
> In your opinion, would it be possible to reproduce the functionality
> of outline-mode using text properties rather than overlays?
This needs to be analyzed. Outline mode uses several featur
"Sean O'Halpin" writes:
> In your opinion, would it be possible to reproduce the functionality
> of outline-mode using text properties rather than overlays? And in the
> case of org-mode, would this really make that much of a difference in
> terms of performance?
Broadly speaking, answer seems t
In your opinion, would it be possible to reproduce the functionality
of outline-mode using text properties rather than overlays? And in the
case of org-mode, would this really make that much of a difference in
terms of performance?
Regards,
Sean
On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 1:36 PM, Eli Zaretskii wro
Hi Eli,
On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 09:38:47PM +0300, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
> > Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2013 20:00:56 +0200
> > From: Suvayu Ali
> > Cc: Torsten Wagner , emacs-orgmode@gnu.org,
> > carsten.domi...@gmail.com
> >
> > If some package wants to keep something updated (line number displays in
> Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2013 20:00:56 +0200
> From: Suvayu Ali
> Cc: Torsten Wagner , emacs-orgmode@gnu.org,
> carsten.domi...@gmail.com
>
> If some package wants to keep something updated (line number displays in
> this case), is using the post-command-hook the only option?
No. The other one
Hi Eli,
I hope you don't mind me taking this opportunity to ask a tangential
question.
On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 04:03:10PM +0300, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
> In general, linum does exactly what defeats redisplay optimizations:
> it modifies overlays in a post-command-hook. But that doesn't mean
If so
Bastien writes:
> Thanks Eli, great to learn about the internals of Emacs display
> engine.
Eli is, and always has been, quite a resourceful man. And along the
years, I got the pleasure of discovering him as a good friend too! :-)
François
> Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2013 13:49:47 +0200
> From: Torsten Wagner
> Cc: Eli Zaretskii , Org Mode Mailing List
>
> just want to add some observation. I guess it has nothing to do with the
> display engine but it might be somehow related. I used to use line-mode to
> display line-numbers as a left co
> From: Carsten Dominik
> Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2013 12:56:11 +0200
> Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
>
> I guess outline mode does have the exact same problem in this case, in
> fact any mode with large amount of hidden text.
Of course. The only difference is that outline is not as popular as
Org, and u
Hi,
just want to add some observation. I guess it has nothing to do with the
display engine but it might be somehow related. I used to use line-mode to
display line-numbers as a left column on all my buffers.
I noticed a very painful slowdown up to a totally unusable state during
working on very l
On 12 apr. 2013, at 10:31, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
>> From: Carsten Dominik
>> Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2013 09:13:47 +0200
>> Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
>>
>>> Just search xdisp.c for "overlay", you will see the story quite
>>> clearly, I think.
>>
>> My Sunday pleasure reading project.
>
> Good luck,
Carsten Dominik writes:
> Thanks for taking the time to get me this far.
+1!
Thanks Eli, great to learn about the internals of Emacs display
engine. The Emacs Lisp manual already contains some directions
and warnings, but not so detailed.
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> From: Carsten Dominik
> Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2013 09:13:47 +0200
> Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
>
> > Just search xdisp.c for "overlay", you will see the story quite
> > clearly, I think.
>
> My Sunday pleasure reading project.
Good luck, and let me know if you need something explained. The
commen
On 12 apr. 2013, at 08:41, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
>> From: Carsten Dominik
>> Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2013 00:49:32 +0200
>> Cc: "emacs-orgmode@gnu.org List"
>>
>>> Overlays should be OK as long as they aren't too many, and as long as
>>> you don't move them around too much, particularly in post-comm
> From: Carsten Dominik
> Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2013 00:49:32 +0200
> Cc: "emacs-orgmode@gnu.org List"
>
> > Overlays should be OK as long as they aren't too many, and as long as
> > you don't move them around too much, particularly in post-command-hook
> > or some such.
>
> This explanation sounds
On 11.4.2013, at 19:30, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
>> From: Carsten Dominik
>> Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2013 04:58:15 +0200
>> Cc: "emacs-orgmode@gnu.org List" ,
>> Eli Zaretskii
>>
>>> I guess Eli simply means, in a general way, that overlays do negatively
>>> impact
>>> display performance, as you said
On 11.4.2013, at 19:27, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
> [Please CC me on responses, as I'm not subscribed to this list.]
>
>> From: Carsten Dominik
>> Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2013 21:58:06 +0200
>> Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
>>
>>> I beg the Org developers to please be very careful when introducing
>>> expen
> From: Carsten Dominik
> Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2013 04:58:15 +0200
> Cc: "emacs-orgmode@gnu.org List" ,
> Eli Zaretskii
>
> > I guess Eli simply means, in a general way, that overlays do negatively
> > impact
> > display performance, as you said as well a couple of times:
>
> Yes, but Eli says t
[Please CC me on responses, as I'm not subscribed to this list.]
> From: Carsten Dominik
> Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2013 21:58:06 +0200
> Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
>
> > I beg the Org developers to please be very careful when introducing
> > expensive display features such as overlays into Org. Org al
On 10.4.2013, at 22:16, "Sebastien Vauban" wrote:
> Hi Carsten,
>
> Carsten Dominik wrote:
>> On 10.4.2013, at 18:21, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
From: Carsten Dominik
On 10 apr. 2013, at 11:54, Suvayu Ali wrote:
> This request is common enough; every time it comes up overlays are
>>>
Hi Carsten,
Carsten Dominik wrote:
> On 10.4.2013, at 18:21, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
>>> From: Carsten Dominik
>>> On 10 apr. 2013, at 11:54, Suvayu Ali wrote:
This request is common enough; every time it comes up overlays are
proposed as a solution. It would be good if this is availabl
On 10.4.2013, at 18:21, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
>> From: Carsten Dominik
>> Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2013 12:16:28 +0200
>> Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
>>
>>
>> On 10 apr. 2013, at 11:54, Suvayu Ali wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 09:32:44AM +0530, Jambunathan K wrote:
See "Side note"
> From: Jambunathan K
> Cc: Carsten Dominik , emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
> Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2013 22:13:46 +0530
>
> Eli Zaretskii writes:
>
> > I beg the Org developers to please be very careful when introducing
> > expensive display features such as overlays into Org. Org already
> > puts the Em
Eli Zaretskii writes:
> I beg the Org developers to please be very careful when introducing
> expensive display features such as overlays into Org. Org already
> puts the Emacs display engine to its limits in many of its popular
> features; adding overlays to this mess might be too much.
We sho
> From: Carsten Dominik
> Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2013 12:16:28 +0200
> Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
>
>
> On 10 apr. 2013, at 11:54, Suvayu Ali wrote:
>
> > On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 09:32:44AM +0530, Jambunathan K wrote:
> >>
> >> See "Side note" towards the end of this message
> >>
> >>http:
> ;; set up highlighting of special patterns for Org mode only
> (dolist (mode '(org-mode))
> (font-lock-add-keywords mode
> `((,lvn/highlight-org-regexps 1 'lvn/highlight-face prepend
hi-lock.el is for regexp based highlighting.
facemenu.el is for one-off, case-by-case highligh
Suvayu Ali writes:
> On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 09:32:44AM +0530, Jambunathan K wrote:
>>
>> See "Side note" towards the end of this message
>>
>> http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=14157#8
>>
>
> This request is common enough; every time it comes up overlays are
> proposed as a
Carsten Dominik writes:
> On 10 apr. 2013, at 11:54, Suvayu Ali wrote:
>
>> On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 09:32:44AM +0530, Jambunathan K wrote:
>>>
>>> See "Side note" towards the end of this message
>>>
>>>http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=14157#8
>>>
>>
>> This request is com
On 10 apr. 2013, at 13:20, "Sebastien Vauban"
wrote:
> Carsten Dominik wrote:
>> On 10 apr. 2013, at 12:48, Suvayu Ali wrote:
>>> On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 12:16:28PM +0200, Carsten Dominik wrote:
On 10 apr. 2013, at 11:54, Suvayu Ali wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 09:32:44AM +0530,
Carsten Dominik wrote:
> On 10 apr. 2013, at 12:48, Suvayu Ali wrote:
>> On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 12:16:28PM +0200, Carsten Dominik wrote:
>>> On 10 apr. 2013, at 11:54, Suvayu Ali wrote:
On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 09:32:44AM +0530, Jambunathan K wrote:
>
> See "Side note" towards the e
On 10 apr. 2013, at 12:48, Suvayu Ali wrote:
> Hi Carsten,
>
> On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 12:16:28PM +0200, Carsten Dominik wrote:
>>
>> On 10 apr. 2013, at 11:54, Suvayu Ali wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 09:32:44AM +0530, Jambunathan K wrote:
See "Side note" towards the end
Hi Carsten,
On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 12:16:28PM +0200, Carsten Dominik wrote:
>
> On 10 apr. 2013, at 11:54, Suvayu Ali wrote:
>
> > On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 09:32:44AM +0530, Jambunathan K wrote:
> >>
> >> See "Side note" towards the end of this message
> >>
> >>http://debbugs.gnu.org/
Hmmm
as application an ambient-light org-mode coloring
just joking
Torsten
On 10 April 2013 12:16, Carsten Dominik wrote:
>
> On 10 apr. 2013, at 11:54, Suvayu Ali wrote:
>
> > On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 09:32:44AM +0530, Jambunathan K wrote:
> >>
> >> See "Side note" towards the end
On 10 apr. 2013, at 11:54, Suvayu Ali wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 09:32:44AM +0530, Jambunathan K wrote:
>>
>> See "Side note" towards the end of this message
>>
>>http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=14157#8
>>
>
> This request is common enough; every time it comes up o
On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 09:32:44AM +0530, Jambunathan K wrote:
>
> See "Side note" towards the end of this message
>
> http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=14157#8
>
This request is common enough; every time it comes up overlays are
proposed as a solution. It would be good if t
See "Side note" towards the end of this message
http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=14157#8
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