Re: [O] New exporter, beamer confusion

2013-02-08 Thread Nicolas Goaziou
Rasmus writes: >> There is the #+LATEX_HEADER:. Is a keyword specific to Beamer >> required? It would by symmetric with #+BEAMER: but I have never >> needed it before. > > > Something like > > #+LATEX_HEADER:\AtBeginSection[]{\frame{\thispagestyle{empty}\tableofcontents[currentsection]}} > > is

Re: [O] New exporter, beamer confusion

2013-02-08 Thread Eric S Fraga
Nicolas Goaziou writes: >> Should there be a check in the exporter, for latex based backends, if >> the document class expected is not defined? This would have made things >> a lot quicker to resolve in this case! > > What is an "expected document class"? Beamer export can happen with > a "beame

Re: [O] New exporter, beamer confusion

2013-02-07 Thread Rasmus
Nicolas, > There is the #+LATEX_HEADER:. Is a keyword specific to Beamer > required? It would by symmetric with #+BEAMER: but I have never > needed it before. Something like #+LATEX_HEADER:\AtBeginSection[]{\frame{\thispagestyle{empty}\tableofcontents[currentsection]}} is not interesting to

Re: [O] New exporter, beamer confusion

2013-02-07 Thread Nicolas Goaziou
Hello, Rasmus writes: > Nicolas Goaziou writes: > >> If the author is cautious about keywords used (i.e. #+BEAMER: or >> #+LATEX:), it should be possible to export the same document with either >> `beamer' or `latex' back-end. Though, I don't know how much difference >> there would be between t

Re: [O] New exporter, beamer confusion

2013-02-07 Thread Rasmus
Nicolas Goaziou writes: > If the author is cautious about keywords used (i.e. #+BEAMER: or > #+LATEX:), it should be possible to export the same document with either > `beamer' or `latex' back-end. Though, I don't know how much difference > there would be between the output from `latex' and a Bea

Re: [O] New exporter, beamer confusion

2013-02-07 Thread Nicolas Goaziou
Vincent Beffara writes: > Sure, it should be in the default list. What is the drawback? The default list is defined in ox-latex.el, which doesn't know anything about ox-beamer.el. The drawback is that it doesn't seem clean to me. I think it's better to make it a fallback value hardcoded (or in

Re: [O] New exporter, beamer confusion

2013-02-07 Thread Vincent Beffara
Hi, > LaTeX class is never unspecified because `beamer' back-end is > a derivative of `latex', and, as such, `org-latex-default-class' will be > used. `beamer' could specify its own default class, but that class would > still need to be defined in `org-latex-classes'. Sure, it should be in the de

Re: [O] New exporter, beamer confusion

2013-02-07 Thread Nicolas Goaziou
> Should there be a check in the exporter, for latex based backends, if > the document class expected is not defined? This would have made things > a lot quicker to resolve in this case! What is an "expected document class"? Beamer export can happen with a "beamer" or an "article" (and probably o

Re: [O] New exporter, beamer confusion

2013-02-06 Thread James Harkins
On Feb 7, 2013 3:57 AM, "Nicolas Goaziou" wrote: > > Btw, *who* preferred \alert? (Orwell, Politics and the English Language: > > "Never use the passive [voice] where you can use the active.") > > Obviously, me, as the author of the back-end. Org offers only one slot > for "strong emphasis". I had

Re: [O] New exporter, beamer confusion

2013-02-06 Thread Eric S Fraga
Nicolas Goaziou writes: > Hello, > > Eric S Fraga writes: > >> Taking your updated version of the example document, I cannot get the >> exporter to generate a latex file that will compile because it is >> missing a documentclass directive. Is there something else that needs >> to be configured

Re: [O] New exporter, beamer confusion

2013-02-06 Thread Nicolas Goaziou
James Harkins writes: > Btw, *who* preferred \alert? (Orwell, Politics and the English Language: > "Never use the passive [voice] where you can use the active.") Obviously, me, as the author of the back-end. Org offers only one slot for "strong emphasis". I had to choose between bold and alert,

Re: [O] New exporter, beamer confusion

2013-02-06 Thread Nicolas Goaziou
Hello, Eric S Fraga writes: > Taking your updated version of the example document, I cannot get the > exporter to generate a latex file that will compile because it is > missing a documentclass directive. Is there something else that needs > to be configured to support beamer, as in maybe org-e

Re: [O] New exporter, beamer confusion

2013-02-06 Thread Sebastien Vauban
Hi Rasmus, Rasmus wrote: > James Harkins writes: > >> Btw, *who* preferred \alert? (Orwell, Politics and the English Language: >> "Never use the passive [voice] where you can use the active.") > > I prefer alert. See the Beamer manual (texdoc beamer in texlive) on > change of style and how to us

Re: [O] New exporter, beamer confusion

2013-02-06 Thread Suvayu Ali
On Wed, Feb 06, 2013 at 01:32:22PM +0100, Rasmus wrote: > > I don't know how hard it would be to make the "default" block (of > level 3, say) a list block, but I guess that's ultimately what you > want? Such a behavior shouldn't be the default, IMO, since a headline > is not a list. > Nested he

Re: [O] New exporter, beamer confusion

2013-02-06 Thread Rasmus
James Harkins writes: > Btw, *who* preferred \alert? (Orwell, Politics and the English Language: > "Never use the passive [voice] where you can use the active.") I prefer alert. See the Beamer manual (texdoc beamer in texlive) on change of style and how to use alert (e.g. alert on one particula

Re: [O] New exporter, beamer confusion

2013-02-05 Thread Eric S Fraga
James Harkins writes: [...] > Ok. There was something about customizing this on the list just recently. > I'll use that. (FWIW, I had to produce a number of *gasp cough choke* > PowerPoint shows in my previous job, and they told us not to use red for > *anything* unless it really was a four-alar

Re: [O] New exporter, beamer confusion

2013-02-05 Thread James Harkins
Thanks for all this. I'll look at the new org markup later today. That should help a lot. On Feb 6, 2013 3:03 AM, "Nicolas Goaziou" wrote: > > 3. Strong *emphasis* now renders in red, instead of keeping the text's > > original color and switching to boldface. > > Indeed. Strong emphasis in Beamer

Re: [O] New exporter, beamer confusion

2013-02-05 Thread Eric S Fraga
Nicolas Goaziou writes: [...] > Let's start slowly. I think you can get how to make the changes yourself > with a couple of examples. Since you seem to like lists (you know that > Till Tantau frowns upon the use of third level lists in presentations, > don't you?), the first rule to know is: [.

Re: [O] New exporter, beamer confusion

2013-02-05 Thread Eric S Fraga
Nicolas Goaziou writes: [...] >> I have attached the simple test file. >> >> Where am I going wrong? If I change H:2 to H:1, it works although >> obviously the output is not what I want. Have I misunderstand something >> rather fundamental? > > I have no problem exporting this file. Though, j

Re: [O] New exporter, beamer confusion

2013-02-05 Thread Nicolas Goaziou
Hello, > I'm attaching an org file that illustrates a couple of the beamer > formatting options that I used a lot in the old exporter. See below. > 1. I *did* use the block environment to emphasize some text by pulling > it out of the "itemize" bullet lists. If I customize blockenv in org > to

Re: [O] New exporter, beamer confusion

2013-02-05 Thread Nicolas Goaziou
Hello, Eric S Fraga writes: > I have decided to bite the bullet and try to get all of my beamer files > working with the new exporter. I have started simply with the > presentation.org file that I had put on Worg for the tutorial on beamer > for the old exporter. > > A truncated version of that

Re: [O] New exporter, beamer confusion

2013-02-05 Thread Nick Dokos
James Harkins wrote: > ... > > I get the feeling here that the new beamer exporter was written > without a lot of real-world user requirements. Certainly, it's > understandable that HTML, LaTeX article-style and ODT exporters would > be more widely used and more important to get right first. Fo

Re: [O] New exporter, beamer confusion

2013-02-05 Thread Sebastien Vauban
Hi James, James Harkins wrote: > 3. Strong *emphasis* now renders in red, instead of keeping the text's > original color and switching to boldface. That's because the * are exported as \alert macros in the new exporter (instead of \textbf in the old one -- for bold face). As, in the LaTeX's Beam

Re: [O] New exporter, beamer confusion

2013-02-05 Thread Eric S Fraga
Nicolas Goaziou writes: [...] > Here's an excerpt from ox-beamer.el documentation: > > ;; - Headlines become frames when their level is equal to > ;; `org-beamer-frame-level' (or "H" value in the OPTIONS line). Nicolas, I have decided to bite the bullet and try to get all of my beamer files

Re: [O] New exporter, beamer confusion

2013-02-05 Thread Eric S Fraga
Nick Dokos writes: [...] > Customizing org-e-beamer-environments-extra should do the trick. I was Nick, thanks for this. This hint led me to org-e-beamer-select-environment which, after binding to a key, has allowed me to play sufficiently enough with the new exporter and beamer that I am no

Re: [O] New exporter, beamer confusion

2013-02-05 Thread James Harkins
On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 3:21 PM, Nick Dokos wrote: > I added a beamer entry to org-e-latex-classes as indicated in > > http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/61497/focus=61536 > > (again, I > have no idea if the sectioning stuff matters or not, and whether it leads > to problems - improvemen

Re: [O] New exporter, beamer confusion

2013-02-04 Thread Nick Dokos
James Harkins wrote: > On Feb 5, 2013 3:51 AM, "Nicolas Goaziou" wrote: > > In particular, "All frames children become block environments". So in > > your example Third-level is a block environment and Fourth-level is > > a block within it. There's no flattening going on (look at the tex file >

Re: [O] New exporter, beamer confusion

2013-02-04 Thread James Harkins
On Feb 5, 2013 3:51 AM, "Nicolas Goaziou" wrote: > In particular, "All frames children become block environments". So in > your example Third-level is a block environment and Fourth-level is > a block within it. There's no flattening going on (look at the tex file > to convince yourself). Thanks

Re: [O] New exporter, beamer confusion

2013-02-04 Thread Nicolas Goaziou
Hello, James Harkins writes: > Suvayu Ali gmail.com> writes: > >> On Mon, Feb 04, 2013 at 12:00:08PM +0800, James Harkins wrote: >> > #+OPTIONS: H:10 num:t toc:t \n:nil @:t ::t |:t ^:t -:t f:t *:t <:t >> >> The H:10 is your problem. Since you want 2nd level headlines to be >> frames, it sho

Re: [O] New exporter, beamer confusion

2013-02-04 Thread James Harkins
Suvayu Ali gmail.com> writes: > On Mon, Feb 04, 2013 at 12:00:08PM +0800, James Harkins wrote: > > #+OPTIONS: H:10 num:t toc:t \n:nil @:t ::t |:t ^:t -:t f:t *:t <:t > > The H:10 is your problem. Since you want 2nd level headlines to be > frames, it should be H:2. Ah. OK, that's an improveme

Re: [O] New exporter, beamer confusion

2013-02-03 Thread Suvayu Ali
On Mon, Feb 04, 2013 at 12:00:08PM +0800, James Harkins wrote: > #+OPTIONS: H:10 num:t toc:t \n:nil @:t ::t |:t ^:t -:t f:t *:t <:t The H:10 is your problem. Since you want 2nd level headlines to be frames, it should be H:2. Hope this helps, -- Suvayu Open source is the future. It sets us f

[O] New exporter, beamer confusion

2013-02-03 Thread James Harkins
During the semester break, I want to switch over to the new exporter. Currently I'm using export mainly for beamer presentations. I found the org-e-latex-classes entry in an old e-mail post. With that, M-x org-export-dispatch l P produces a .tex document that compiles. But the output is not right.