Re: [O] Org-mode release 7.9

2012-09-27 Thread Bastien
Hi Achim, Achim Gratz strom...@nexgo.de writes: There is an error in the float element (the : after right should really be a ;). Fixed, thanks. Also I would really appreciate if the CSS didn't specify absolute font sizes. I did improve things a bit. Please provide a patch if things are

Re: [O] Org-mode release 7.9

2012-09-27 Thread Achim Gratz
Achim Gratz writes: I haven't tested it yet, but the files are up already. The package description is loaded, buth then it doesn't install because the description vector is wrong. I've pushed a correction that at least works with a local copy of the archive directory. Regards, Achim. -- +[Q+

Re: [O] Org-mode release 7.9

2012-09-27 Thread Bastien
Achim Gratz strom...@nexgo.de writes: The package description is loaded, buth then it doesn't install because the description vector is wrong. I've pushed a correction that at least works with a local copy of the archive directory. I will test this on the server -- thanks! -- Bastien

Re: [O] Org-mode release 7.9

2012-09-26 Thread Bastien
Hi Achim, Achim Gratz strom...@nexgo.de writes: Although it should be possible to produce the package description vectors manually at the moment, I would like to avoid that. I went bold (wikipedia style) and made the change. See the commits related to mk/server.mk. I think this is good

Re: [O] Org-mode release 7.9

2012-09-26 Thread Achim Gratz
Bastien writes: I went bold (wikipedia style) and made the change. See the commits related to mk/server.mk. Have you pushed it? Coz' I don't see it just yet… I think this is good enough for now, but if you have a better solution, let me know. I'll ask Jason to install Emacs 24.2 if that's

Re: [O] Org-mode release 7.9

2012-09-26 Thread Bastien
Hi Achim, Achim Gratz strom...@nexgo.de writes: Bastien writes: I went bold (wikipedia style) and made the change. See the commits related to mk/server.mk. Have you pushed it? Coz' I don't see it just yet… Yes -- see the commits here:

Re: [O] Org-mode release 7.9

2012-09-26 Thread Achim Gratz
Bastien writes: Have you pushed it? Coz' I don't see it just yet… Yes -- see the commits here: Thanks. Gitk apparently refused to update its display even though I'd already updated the remotes. I haven't tested it yet, but the files are up already. BTW, can you check the CSS for the Org

Re: [O] Org-mode release 7.9

2012-09-24 Thread Eric Schulte
Bastien b...@altern.org writes: Achim Gratz strom...@nexgo.de writes: Bastien writes: However I suggest to lose the plural and just use `org-plus-contrib´. Yes, that's fine for me. Thanks, Implemented and pushed. Thanks! So is there some server-side action which needs to be taken for

Re: [O] Org-mode release 7.9

2012-09-24 Thread Achim Gratz
Eric Schulte writes: So is there some server-side action which needs to be taken for these packages and the archive-contents file to begin appearing online? Yes, archive-contents is not currently produced. AFAIK the server is still running Emacs 23 and I don't know if package-x is available.

Re: [O] Org-mode release 7.9

2012-09-24 Thread Bastien
Hi, Achim Gratz strom...@nexgo.de writes: Yes, archive-contents is not currently produced. AFAIK the server is still running Emacs�23 and I don't know if package-x is available. Although it should be possible to produce the package description vectors manually at the moment, I would like to

Re: [O] Org-mode release 7.9

2012-09-21 Thread Bastien
Achim Gratz strom...@nexgo.de writes: Bastien writes: However I suggest to lose the plural and just use `org-plus-contrib´. Yes, that's fine for me. Thanks, Implemented and pushed. Thanks! -- Bastien

Re: [O] Org-mode release 7.9

2012-09-20 Thread Achim Gratz
Bastien writes: However I suggest to lose the plural and just use `org-plus-contrib´. Yes, that's fine for me. Thanks, Implemented and pushed. Regards, Achim. -- +[Q+ Matrix-12 WAVE#46+305 Neuron microQkb Andromeda XTk Blofeld]+ Waldorf MIDI Implementation additional documentation:

Re: [O] Org-mode release 7.9

2012-09-19 Thread Bastien
Hi Achim, Achim Gratz strom...@nexgo.de writes: I've just pushed a first implementation of an orgplus ELPA archive. thanks a lot and sorry to be late on this. I'll test this after tomorrow (I'm offline tomorrow), I'll try to set this up on the server then. If there are any direction you can

Re: [O] Org-mode release 7.9

2012-09-19 Thread Bastien
Hi Eric, Eric Schulte eric.schu...@gmx.com writes: Agreed, this would simply mean generating an archive-contents file on the Org-mode site which lists the latest org and orgplus archive. I'm not sure which elisp function is used to generate this file, but it could be done directly from the

Re: [O] Org-mode release 7.9

2012-09-19 Thread Achim Gratz
Bastien writes: Thinking again of it, I find orgplus confusing in this case. If a longer name is not a problem, I suggest org-with-contribs, it clearly state that this is org with contribs. There are dired+ and friends that are just extensions to dired (and friends), so orgplus would

Re: [O] Org-mode release 7.9

2012-09-19 Thread Bastien
Hi Achim, Achim Gratz strom...@nexgo.de writes: However I suggest to lose the plural and just use `org-plus-contrib´. Yes, that's fine for me. Thanks, -- Bastien

Re: [O] Org-mode release 7.9

2012-09-18 Thread Eric Schulte
Achim Gratz strom...@nexgo.de writes: Eric Schulte writes: Agreed, this would simply mean generating an archive-contents file on the Org-mode site which lists the latest org and orgplus archive. I'm not sure which elisp function is used to generate this file, but it could be done directly

Re: [O] Org-mode release 7.9

2012-09-18 Thread Achim Gratz
Eric Schulte writes: Please do go ahead and revert that commit. Done, implemented in maint and merged back to master. Regards, Achim. -- +[Q+ Matrix-12 WAVE#46+305 Neuron microQkb Andromeda XTk Blofeld]+ Samples for the Waldorf Blofeld:

Re: [O] Org-mode release 7.9

2012-09-17 Thread Eric Schulte
I'm not sure what providing the link entails. Does this mean coordinating with elpa.gnu.org so that orgplus becomes available through the gnu elpa? That sounds ideal. I was actually thinking of using orgmode.org as the package repository for orgplus. I don't think it is a good idea to

Re: [O] Org-mode release 7.9

2012-09-17 Thread Achim Gratz
Eric Schulte writes: Agreed, this would simply mean generating an archive-contents file on the Org-mode site which lists the latest org and orgplus archive. I'm not sure which elisp function is used to generate this file, but it could be done directly from the server.mk file with something

Re: [O] Org-mode release 7.9

2012-09-16 Thread Achim Gratz
Jambunathan K writes: Package manager will download and upgrade the dependency if needed. Yes. Bundle the exporters in to say org-extras*.tar or org-devel-*.tar and then have that package depend on the right version of org-*.tar. That would work if the package was missing. I've looked and

Re: [O] Org-mode release 7.9

2012-09-16 Thread Eric Schulte
I vote we begin building the orgplus package daily and hosting it on orgmode.org. When the server pulls up to that revision it should automatically start to produce the orgplus archive. It is then a matter of providing the link so that it actually becomes accessible. I'm not sure what

Re: [O] Org-mode release 7.9

2012-09-16 Thread Achim Gratz
Eric Schulte writes: I'm not sure what providing the link entails. Does this mean coordinating with elpa.gnu.org so that orgplus becomes available through the gnu elpa? That sounds ideal. I was actually thinking of using orgmode.org as the package repository for orgplus. I don't think it is

Re: [O] Org-mode release 7.9

2012-09-15 Thread Achim Gratz
Bastien writes: Hmm… I'd rather avoid that since + is a reserved character in file names on some systems. How about orgplus? Looks fine to me. I've just pushed a first implementation of an orgplus ELPA archive. Publishing new packages only when maint has been changed will already reduce

Re: [O] Org-mode release 7.9

2012-09-15 Thread Eric Schulte
Achim Gratz strom...@nexgo.de writes: Bastien writes: Hmm… I'd rather avoid that since + is a reserved character in file names on some systems. How about orgplus? Looks fine to me. I've just pushed a first implementation of an orgplus ELPA archive. This looks great, I can confirm that

Re: [O] Org-mode release 7.9

2012-09-15 Thread Achim Gratz
Eric Schulte writes: This looks great, I can confirm that building and installing this package locally allows me to build other ELPA package that depend on functionality in contrib/. Thanks for testing. I vote we begin building the orgplus package daily and hosting it on orgmode.org. When

Re: [O] Org-mode release 7.9

2012-09-14 Thread Bastien
Hi Achim, Achim Gratz strom...@nexgo.de writes: Bastien writes: Let's take the easy road then. I'll work on that in maint, is this OK? Yes. Also, we currently build a new ELPA package each day, resulting in having a new ELPA version every day. We should have a new ELPA version each time

Re: [O] Org-mode release 7.9

2012-09-09 Thread Achim Gratz
Bastien writes: Let's take the easy road then. I'll work on that in maint, is this OK? I'd suggest org+ as the name of the package. Hmm… I'd rather avoid that since + is a reserved character in file names on some systems. How about orgplus? Hosting it on something like

Re: [O] Org-mode release 7.9

2012-09-09 Thread Jambunathan K
Achim Gratz strom...@nexgo.de writes: Bastien writes: Let's take the easy road then. I'll work on that in maint, is this OK? I'd suggest org+ as the name of the package. Hmm… I'd rather avoid that since + is a reserved character in file names on some systems. How about orgplus?

Re: [O] Org-mode release 7.9

2012-09-09 Thread Jambunathan K
Jambunathan K kjambunat...@gmail.com writes: Bundle the exporters in to say org-extras*.tar or org-devel-*.tar and then have that package depend on the right version of org-*.tar. Or taking some cue from debian, call it org-*-unstable-*.tar and/or org-*-testing-*.tar.

Re: [O] Org-mode release 7.9

2012-09-04 Thread Eric Schulte
Jambunathan K kjambunat...@gmail.com writes: 1. There is no need to do download and M-x package-install-file RET if the publishing server has a `archive-contents' file. Org's daily tars are already pushed to Orgmode.org and then later pulled by GNU's ELPA servers. So only

Re: [O] Org-mode release 7.9

2012-09-04 Thread Eric Schulte
Jambunathan K kjambunat...@gmail.com writes: 1. There is no need to do download and M-x package-install-file RET if the publishing server has a `archive-contents' file. Org's daily tars are already pushed to Orgmode.org and then later pulled by GNU's ELPA servers. So only

Re: [O] Org-mode release 7.9

2012-09-02 Thread Bastien
Hi, Achim Gratz strom...@nexgo.de writes: I was talking about the hypothetical possibility to offer another archive that is compatible with package manager and either packages Org including contrib or just contrib (so that it could be installed alongside the normal Org ELPA archive). Of

Re: [O] Org-mode release 7.9

2012-09-02 Thread Jambunathan K
1. There is no need to do download and M-x package-install-file RET if the publishing server has a `archive-contents' file. Org's daily tars are already pushed to Orgmode.org and then later pulled by GNU's ELPA servers. So only thing needed is a public URL on Orgmode.org for

Re: [O] Org-mode release 7.9

2012-09-02 Thread Jambunathan K
1. There is no need to do download and M-x package-install-file RET if the publishing server has a `archive-contents' file. Org's daily tars are already pushed to Orgmode.org and then later pulled by GNU's ELPA servers. So only thing needed is a public URL on Orgmode.org

Re: [O] Org-mode release 7.9

2012-09-02 Thread Bastien
Hi Jambunathan, Jambunathan K kjambunat...@gmail.com writes: What this mean is that there is no need for Tromey's repo or marmalade repo. Orgmode itself is a repo and can be used in `package-archives'. Indeed -- that's something we may consider. Since release tars are already made

Re: [O] Org-mode release 7.9

2012-08-31 Thread Bastien
Hi Eric and Achim, Eric Schulte eric.schu...@gmx.com writes: Achim Gratz strom...@nexgo.de writes: Bastien writes: I'm afraid the only recommendation here is to try to stick to one installation method -- or to reinstall a fresh package/repo with a fresh contrib/lisp/ *after* any ELPA

Re: [O] Org-mode release 7.9

2012-08-31 Thread Achim Gratz
Bastien writes: Are you both talking about the same thing? I'm not sure, but we'll find out. (I use ELPA* to denote other ELPA archives than GNU ELPA.) If this is about a org-*.tar ELPA* package containing both *core* and *contrib*, I disagree. If this is about a org-contrib*.tar ELPA*

Re: [O] Org-mode release 7.9

2012-08-31 Thread Eric Schulte
Achim Gratz strom...@nexgo.de writes: Bastien writes: Are you both talking about the same thing? I'm not sure, but we'll find out. (I use ELPA* to denote other ELPA archives than GNU ELPA.) If this is about a org-*.tar ELPA* package containing both *core* and *contrib*, I disagree.

Re: [O] Org-mode release 7.9

2012-08-31 Thread Nick Dokos
Eric Schulte eric.schu...@gmx.com wrote: This first option of a combined org+contrib package in a non-GNU ELPA* does sound like the easiest to implement and most likely to succeed (for the reasons Achim mentions above). Is there a downside to such a combined package which I am missing?

Re: [O] Org-mode release 7.9

2012-08-30 Thread Achim Gratz
Bastien writes: I'm afraid the only recommendation here is to try to stick to one installation method -- or to reinstall a fresh package/repo with a fresh contrib/lisp/ *after* any ELPA upgrade. Well, we could make an ELPA package that includes contrib. It just can't be distributed via GNU

Re: [O] Org-mode release 7.9

2012-08-30 Thread Eric Schulte
Achim Gratz strom...@nexgo.de writes: Bastien writes: I'm afraid the only recommendation here is to try to stick to one installation method -- or to reinstall a fresh package/repo with a fresh contrib/lisp/ *after* any ELPA upgrade. Well, we could make an ELPA package that includes contrib.

Re: [O] Org-mode release 7.9

2012-08-30 Thread Ivan Andrus
On Aug 30, 2012, at 8:35 PM, Eric Schulte wrote: Achim Gratz strom...@nexgo.de writes: Bastien writes: I'm afraid the only recommendation here is to try to stick to one installation method -- or to reinstall a fresh package/repo with a fresh contrib/lisp/ *after* any ELPA upgrade.

Re: [O] Org-mode release 7.9

2012-08-30 Thread Marcelo de Moraes Serpa
MELPA looks better; like ELPA 2.0 :) On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 2:10 PM, Ivan Andrus darthand...@gmail.com wrote: On Aug 30, 2012, at 8:35 PM, Eric Schulte wrote: Achim Gratz strom...@nexgo.de writes: Bastien writes: I'm afraid the only recommendation here is to try to stick to one

Re: [O] Org-mode release 7.9

2012-08-29 Thread Bastien
Hi Achim, Achim Gratz strom...@nexgo.de writes: Achim Gratz writes: Can we see the full output, please? I got a mail from Robert (apparently not sent to the list) that the error was related to his use of some stuff in contrib/, resulting in a mixed installation. How the use of stuff in

Re: [O] Org-mode release 7.9

2012-08-29 Thread Achim Gratz
Bastien writes: I got a mail from Robert (apparently not sent to the list) that the error was related to his use of some stuff in contrib/, resulting in a mixed installation. How the use of stuff in contrib/ can prevent the ELPA package from loading correctly? I'm interested in having

Re: [O] Org-mode release 7.9

2012-08-29 Thread Bastien
Achim Gratz strom...@nexgo.de writes: Robert said he removed the contrib stuff and things start to work for him — apparently he's away for a few days so we may not hear from him until he's back. All right, thanks for the details! If I can reproduce the problem, I'll definitely ping Tom

Re: [O] Org-mode release 7.9

2012-08-29 Thread Robert Horn
On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 08:00:18PM +0200, Bastien wrote: Hi Achim, Achim Gratz strom...@nexgo.de writes: Achim Gratz writes: Can we see the full output, please? I got a mail from Robert (apparently not sent to the list) that the error was related to his use of some stuff in

Re: [O] Org-mode release 7.9

2012-08-29 Thread Bastien
Hi Robert, thanks for the detailed explanations, it also helped me find the problem in my own setup. I'm afraid the only recommendation here is to try to stick to one installation method -- or to reinstall a fresh package/repo with a fresh contrib/lisp/ *after* any ELPA upgrade. Best, --

Re: [O] Org-mode release 7.9

2012-08-28 Thread Achim Gratz
Achim Gratz writes: Can we see the full output, please? I got a mail from Robert (apparently not sent to the list) that the error was related to his use of some stuff in contrib/, resulting in a mixed installation. So everyone else who sees that problem, could you please check if you are maybe

Re: [O] Org-mode release 7.9

2012-08-27 Thread Manuel Batsching
2012/8/26 Robert Horn rjh...@alum.mit.edu: I decided to try ELPA to upgrade in place for the first time, and used it to upgrade to the latest org 7.9. No apparent errors there. (good work BTW). Tests: - proper org-version? yes 7.9, no problems reported - [f8] to trigger a capture I get

Re: [O] Org-mode release 7.9

2012-08-26 Thread Robert Horn
A bug, perhaps ELPA related. Sorry to be so brief but I've got to run soon to the station. I'm going to be tied up for the next week, but if it's not figured out by then, I'll have time to look in more detail. I confirmed this on Linux, Mac, and Windows, all emacs 24.1. All respond the same.

Re: [O] Org-mode release 7.9

2012-08-26 Thread Achim Gratz
Robert Horn writes: Tests: - proper org-version? yes 7.9, no problems reported Can we see the full output, please? - [f8] to trigger a capture I get the error: org-capture-select-template: Symbol's function definition is void: org-contextualize-keys In my .emacs I've got (define-key

Re: [O] Org-mode release 7.9

2012-08-25 Thread Achim Gratz
Eric Schulte writes: Will the new ELPA package include org-element.el and org-export.el, or would those require separate packaging? The ELPA archive does not include aynthing from contrib/. So, org-element is included, but not org-export. However, one of the last-minute changes to the build

Re: [O] Org-mode release 7.9

2012-08-25 Thread Bastien
Hi Rasmus, Rasmus ras...@gmx.us writes: It seems doc.html on worg ins't up to date. At least a couple of the links weren't working for me (the anchor didn't exists). E.g. orgtbl to unicode. http://orgmode.org/worg/doc.html only document hooks, commands and options. Putting all functions

Re: [O] Org-mode release 7.9

2012-08-25 Thread Bastien
Achim Gratz strom...@nexgo.de writes: However, one of the last-minute changes to the build system was to add a friendlier way to include stuff from contrib, I wish it could be even friendlier, with e.g. `make install-contrib' :) -- Bastien, The Stubborn Git

Re: [O] Org-mode release 7.9

2012-08-25 Thread Moritz Ulrich
Bastien writes: Hi all, I've released Org 7.9. http://orgmode.org/org-7.9.zip http://orgmode.org/org-7.9.gz http://orgmode.org/org-mode-download.html The second link seems dead to me. Maybe it should read 'org-7.9.tar.gz'? -- Moritz Ulrich

Re: [O] Org-mode release 7.9

2012-08-25 Thread Bastien
Hi Eric, Eric Schulte eric.schu...@gmx.com writes: Will the new ELPA package include org-element.el and org-export.el, or would those require separate packaging? We will move org-export.el into core as soon as there is no conflict with the current export variables/functions. That way

Re: [O] Org-mode release 7.9

2012-08-25 Thread Bastien
Moritz Ulrich mor...@tarn-vedra.de writes: The second link seems dead to me. Maybe it should read 'org-7.9.tar.gz'? Err... yes, indeed -- here it is: http://orgmode.org/org-7.9.tar.gz -- Bastien

Re: [O] Org-mode release 7.9

2012-08-25 Thread François Allisson
Hi Bastien, Le vendredi 24 aoû 2012 à 17:48:42 (+0200), Bastien a écrit : Hi all, I've released Org 7.9. http://orgmode.org/org-7.9.zip http://orgmode.org/org-7.9.gz http://orgmode.org/org-mode-download.html After 1885 commits since Org 7.8, it was about time. See the list of

Re: [O] Org-mode release 7.9

2012-08-25 Thread Torsten Wagner
Hi Bastien, with all the new features and changes for each release, we might really need a release-party or better a release-workshop. 1-2 days to get introduced to all the great new stuff ;) Kudos to all the org developers. Torsten On 25 August 2012 00:48, Bastien b...@gnu.org wrote: Hi

Re: [O] Org-mode release 7.9

2012-08-25 Thread Thomas S. Dye
Hi Bastien, Bastien b...@altern.org writes: Hi Thomas, t...@tsdye.com (Thomas S. Dye) writes: I'm using Org from Elpa (which is neat). When I updated and refreshed Org, I got the following error: Loading /Applications/Emacs.app/Contents/Resources/lisp/org/org-w3m.elc...done Loading

Re: [O] Org-mode release 7.9

2012-08-25 Thread James Harkins
I'm delighted to hear of the new release, and will upgrade today via git. However... might I suggest that those who are commenting on the release, please refrain from quoting the entire changelog? It's rather unpleasant for digest readers. It's one of the reasons why computers have Delete keys

[O] Org-mode release 7.9

2012-08-24 Thread Bastien
Hi all, I've released Org 7.9. http://orgmode.org/org-7.9.zip http://orgmode.org/org-7.9.gz http://orgmode.org/org-mode-download.html After 1885 commits since Org 7.8, it was about time. See the list of changes here: http://orgmode.org/Changes.html I cannot thank all the contributors

Re: [O] Org-mode release 7.9

2012-08-24 Thread Russell Adams
OMG what a long list of changes! Kudos to everyone involved and Bastien for coordinating the release! On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 05:48:42PM +0200, Bastien wrote: Hi all, I've released Org 7.9. http://orgmode.org/org-7.9.zip http://orgmode.org/org-7.9.gz

Re: [O] Org-mode release 7.9

2012-08-24 Thread Bastien
Hi Rainer, Rainer Thiel r.th...@uni-jena.de writes: Those are the very setting that I used to put in the Makfile in previous Org versions. Now cygwin make fails with the following output: Looks like you don't have the utils/ directory. The old UTILITIES/ directory has been renamed to

Re: [O] Org-mode release 7.9

2012-08-24 Thread Thomas S. Dye
Aloha Bastien, Congratulations on seeing Org to 7.9. Many thanks to Nicolas, Achim, Eric, Max and the rest for their many contributions. I'm using Org from Elpa (which is neat). When I updated and refreshed Org, I got the following error: Loading

Re: [O] Org-mode release 7.9

2012-08-24 Thread Bastien
Hi Thomas, t...@tsdye.com (Thomas S. Dye) writes: I'm using Org from Elpa (which is neat). When I updated and refreshed Org, I got the following error: Loading /Applications/Emacs.app/Contents/Resources/lisp/org/org-w3m.elc...done Loading

Re: [O] Org-mode release 7.9

2012-08-24 Thread Bastien
Hi Rainer, Rainer Thiel r.th...@uni-jena.de writes: Those are the very setting that I used to put in the Makfile in previous Org versions. Now cygwin make fails with the following output: Actually double *thanks* for reporting this. The utils/ directory was not included in previous .zip

Re: [O] Org-mode release 7.9

2012-08-24 Thread Igor Sosa Mayor
thanks a lot! Je Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 05:48:42PM +0200 Bastien skribis: Hi all, I've released Org 7.9. http://orgmode.org/org-7.9.zip http://orgmode.org/org-7.9.gz http://orgmode.org/org-mode-download.html After 1885 commits since Org 7.8, it was about time. See the list of

Re: [O] Org-mode release 7.9

2012-08-24 Thread Rainer Thiel
Is there a way to install Org 7.9 under Windows Vista? I have written the following local.mk in the Org installation directory: -- # Name of your emacs binary EMACS = emacs.exe # Where local software is found prefix = C:/Program Files/Emacs # Where local lisp files go. lispdir=

Re: [O] Org-mode release 7.9

2012-08-24 Thread Rasmus
Congrats to the Org-team! Great work as always! It seems doc.html on worg ins't up to date. At least a couple of the links weren't working for me (the anchor didn't exists). E.g. orgtbl to unicode. BTW: It should technically be possible to run org-e-ascii (unicode-version) on tables when

Re: [O] Org-mode release 7.9

2012-08-24 Thread Jude DaShiell
Maybe try wrapping all paths in quotes and try again. On Fri, 24 Aug 2012, Rainer Thiel wrote: Is there a way to install Org 7.9 under Windows Vista? I have written the following local.mk in the Org installation directory: -- # Name of your emacs binary EMACS = emacs.exe # Where

Re: [O] Org-mode release 7.9

2012-08-24 Thread Eric Schulte
Will the new ELPA package include org-element.el and org-export.el, or would those require separate packaging? Thanks, Bastien b...@altern.org writes: Hi Thomas, t...@tsdye.com (Thomas S. Dye) writes: I'm using Org from Elpa (which is neat). When I updated and refreshed Org, I got the