Re: [O] keybindings again...

2017-06-30 Thread Emanuel Berg
Jean-Christophe Helary wrote: > Thank you for the pointer. Although I don't > think I ever used a teletypewriter in my life > :) Maybe sometimes in the 21st century we'll > have to think about a change in > terminology... In computers, but also in just any brand of engineering (and other areas as

Re: [O] keybindings again...

2017-06-30 Thread Michael Ax
Also $ xmodmap .. if you should see an empty row in the output, and a whole bunch of things clustered on the last line, then .. write an ~/.Xmodmap to free up caps-lock and to have it act as the Hyper_L key. two more lines move that modifier into the free row and you get an easy to hit on ac

Re: [O] keybindings again...

2017-06-30 Thread Jean-Christophe Helary
> On Jun 30, 2017, at 17:14, Nicolas Goaziou wrote: >> So, I have a few suggestions to improve that part of the documentation: >> 1) add a list of preset keys in the manual >> 2) add a line about speed keys in the compact guide >> >> That's something I could do if the idea is accepted. > > Sur

Re: [O] keybindings again...

2017-06-30 Thread Nicolas Goaziou
Jean-Christophe Helary writes: > The alternative to M-S-RET is C-c C-x M = C-c C-x S-m > > Why set an alternative like this when ESC RET S- does exactly > the same thing and is way shorter/more practical ? "practical" is in the eye of the beholder. For example, I can type "C-c C-x M" without

Re: [O] keybindings again...

2017-06-30 Thread Jean-Christophe Helary
> On Jun 30, 2017, at 14:27, Nicolas Goaziou wrote: > >> It would be nice if the org manual mentioned that too, and give >> alternative keybindings for use in the terminal because that's >> extremely confusing. > > It does: (info "(org) TTY keys"). The alternative to M-S-RET is C-c C-x M = C-c

Re: [O] keybindings again...

2017-06-30 Thread Jean-Christophe Helary
Eli and Yuri, Thank you *so much* for the thorough explanations. Now I know. After having finally understood how git was working I was going back to my list of things to do for/with emacs and got frustrated by that shortcut that kept not working... Jean-Christophe > On Jun 30, 2017, at 15:17,

Re: [O] keybindings again...

2017-06-30 Thread Jean-Christophe Helary
> On Jun 30, 2017, at 14:27, Nicolas Goaziou wrote: >> It would be nice if the org manual mentioned that too, and give >> alternative keybindings for use in the terminal because that's >> extremely confusing. > > It does: (info "(org) TTY keys"). Thank you for the pointer. Although I don't thi

Re: [O] keybindings again...

2017-06-29 Thread Yuri Khan
On Fri, Jun 30, 2017 at 12:10 PM, Jean-Christophe Helary wrote: >> I'm trying to assign M-S-RET to org-insert-todo-heading because for some >> reason it is not assigned by default: every time I hit ESC S-RET I get ESC >> RET only. >> >> It's the limitation of the terminal. > > Do you mean that

Re: [O] keybindings again...

2017-06-29 Thread Eli Zaretskii
> From: Jean-Christophe Helary > Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2017 14:10:50 +0900 > > Do you mean that Shift is not recognized as a modified key by the terminal ? No, that's not it. The problem is that on a TTY, the way Emacs reads keyboard input returns only characters, it doesn't return function keys.

Re: [O] keybindings again...

2017-06-29 Thread Kaushal Modi
On Fri, Jun 30, 2017 at 1:12 AM Jean-Christophe Helary < jean.christophe.hel...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Do you mean that Shift is not recognized as a modified key by the terminal > ? > That's my understanding. Also, I rarely use emacs with -nw (as I would otherwise miss PNG and PDF support), so I a

Re: [O] keybindings again...

2017-06-29 Thread Nicolas Goaziou
Hello, Jean-Christophe Helary writes: > It would be nice if the org manual mentioned that too, and give > alternative keybindings for use in the terminal because that's > extremely confusing. It does: (info "(org) TTY keys"). See also `org-replace-disputed-keys'. Regards, -- Nicolas Goaziou

Re: [O] keybindings again...

2017-06-29 Thread Jean-Christophe Helary
> On Jun 30, 2017, at 11:51, Kaushal Modi wrote: > > On Thu, Jun 29, 2017 at 10:43 PM Jean-Christophe Helary > mailto:jean.christophe.hel...@gmail.com>> > wrote: > I'm using emacs built from master, emacs -nw, after moving .emacs.el and > .emacs.d away, on OSX 10.12. > > > I'm trying to ass

Re: [O] keybindings again...

2017-06-29 Thread Kaushal Modi
On Thu, Jun 29, 2017 at 10:43 PM Jean-Christophe Helary < jean.christophe.hel...@gmail.com> wrote: > I'm using emacs built from master, emacs -nw, after moving .emacs.el and > .emacs.d away, on OSX 10.12. > > > I'm trying to assign M-S-RET to org-insert-todo-heading because for some > reason it is

[O] keybindings again...

2017-06-29 Thread Jean-Christophe Helary
I'm using emacs built from master, emacs -nw, after moving .emacs.el and .emacs.d away, on OSX 10.12. I'm trying to assign M-S-RET to org-insert-todo-heading because for some reason it is not assigned by default: every time I hit ESC S-RET I get ESC RET only. So, I tried things from http://erg