Re: [O] org-plus-contrib: Invalid function: org-no-popups

2013-01-26 Thread Bastien
Hi Achim, Achim Gratz strom...@nexgo.de writes: My reading comprehension may be at an all-time low, but this is what you wrote in another thread: This [removing Org from ELPA -ed] is using Org users as hostages, I don't want to do this. I think this is an option. Hm… I'm obviously

Re: [O] org-plus-contrib: Invalid function: org-no-popups

2013-01-26 Thread Achim Gratz
Bastien writes: I don't like it for at least these reasons: - it introduces an advice in the code -- we should work toward removing them, not adding them. That's the mechanism Emacs provides for dealing with those situations. I could do it without an advice, but it would still do the same

Re: [O] org-plus-contrib: Invalid function: org-no-popups

2013-01-26 Thread Bastien
Hi Achim, Achim Gratz strom...@nexgo.de writes: - it advices `require', which is a very core function in Emacs. Which has been discussed on Emacs devel and has been pronounced safe in this case. No. Stefan just said it was safe to *experiment* with it. Like a few hundred other places in

Re: [O] org-plus-contrib: Invalid function: org-no-popups

2013-01-25 Thread Bastien
Achim Gratz strom...@nexgo.de writes: Bastien writes: I already suggested to *not* use ELPA at all for now. I happen to think that this suggestion goes too far (if you think nobody should use OIrg from ELPA, then you'd need to stop making it available there and hopefully we already agreed

Re: [O] org-plus-contrib: Invalid function: org-no-popups

2013-01-25 Thread Bastien
Bastien b...@altern.org writes: How can you make sure that Org-mode has not been used before people want to install an updated version through GNU/Org ELPA? Note that some people use Org early in the initialization process, e.g. for their Emacs configuration file. My guess is that the people

Re: [O] org-plus-contrib: Invalid function: org-no-popups

2013-01-25 Thread Achim Gratz
Bastien writes: Achim Gratz strom...@nexgo.de writes: I happen to think that this suggestion goes too far (if you think nobody should use OIrg from ELPA, then you'd need to stop making it available there and hopefully we already agreed that this isn't an option). No, we did not agreed this

Re: [O] org-plus-contrib: Invalid function: org-no-popups

2013-01-24 Thread Bastien
Hi Moritz, Moritz Ulrich mor...@tarn-vedra.de writes: Any hints? Googling just pointed me to a mail thread where removing, restarting Emacs and re-installing the package fixed everything - that doesn't work for me. It's safer not to use GNU ELPA or Org ELPA for installing Org for now. Yes,

Re: [O] org-plus-contrib: Invalid function: org-no-popups

2013-01-24 Thread Achim Gratz
Moritz Ulrich writes: Any hints? Googling just pointed me to a mail thread where removing, restarting Emacs and re-installing the package fixed everything - that doesn't work for me. You read that wrong. What should work is installing, re-starting Emacs, removing and re-installing the package

Re: [O] org-plus-contrib: Invalid function: org-no-popups

2013-01-24 Thread Bastien
Achim Gratz strom...@nexgo.de writes: Moritz Ulrich writes: Any hints? Googling just pointed me to a mail thread where removing, restarting Emacs and re-installing the package fixed everything - that doesn't work for me. You read that wrong. What should work is installing, re-starting

Re: [O] org-plus-contrib: Invalid function: org-no-popups

2013-01-24 Thread Achim Gratz
Bastien writes: I already suggested to *not* use ELPA at all for now. I happen to think that this suggestion goes too far (if you think nobody should use OIrg from ELPA, then you'd need to stop making it available there and hopefully we already agreed that this isn't an option). There is

[O] org-plus-contrib: Invalid function: org-no-popups

2013-01-23 Thread Moritz Ulrich
Hello, I just installed org-plus-contrib from org's elpa repository, coming From custom git checkout. After removing the (require 'org-install) (because of the warning it now generates) I get the following error when trying to open the agenda dispatcher: --8---cut