Just a short comment:
There is one incident caused by one user - this is an outlier in all
statistical measures. I don't think it is reasonable to react with new rules
- by discussing the issue caused by one user, we are playing by their rules!
Ignore the one user but keep your eyes and ears
On 13 mrt. 2013, at 22:07, Jay Kerns gjkerns...@gmail.com wrote:
Dear Bastien,
On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 4:33 PM, Bastien b...@altern.org wrote:
Hi Jay,
Well, I would not invest too much time on this, personally.
No, you don't seem to be bothered at all; those attacks seem to
wash
it seems to me that this is entirely superfluous. I have not seen a
mailing lit with better behavior anywhere. We should not be distracted
by a lone user.
FWIW, +1
Memnon Anon gegendosenflei...@googlemail.com writes:
it seems to me that this is entirely superfluous. I have not seen a
mailing lit with better behavior anywhere. We should not be distracted
by a lone user.
FWIW, +1
+2 :)
Bernt
[snip]
FWIW, +1
+2 :)
Fair enough. I agree that time shouldn't be wasted on lone users, and
that includes me:
http://orgmode.org/w/?p=worg.git;a=commitdiff;h=933d17d268a1618d9244c12014403a05c05c5a25
Cheers,
--
Jay
Reading my message again, it doesn't say what I wanted it to say, and
it sounds in my head not in the way I wanted it to sound. Let me try
again, with more words:
That's totally fine by me, I meant it when I said OK if you don't
want to do that, and I don't want a silly thing like a posting
On 14.3.2013, at 20:53, Jay Kerns gjkerns...@gmail.com wrote:
Reading my message again, it doesn't say what I wanted it to say, and
it sounds in my head not in the way I wanted it to sound. Let me try
again, with more words:
That's totally fine by me, I meant it when I said OK if you
The past few days have reminded me of something somebody famous
once said [1]. I can already see work being done to protect the
community for the future, yet I believe there is more we might do
to be even stronger.
I understand and appreciate Bastien's stated position regarding
moderator controls
+1
On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 3:13 PM, Jay Kerns gjkerns...@gmail.com wrote:
The past few days have reminded me of something somebody famous
once said [1]. I can already see work being done to protect the
community for the future, yet I believe there is more we might do
to be even stronger.
I
Am 13.03.2013 20:13, schrieb Jay Kerns:
The past few days have reminded me of something somebody famous
once said [1]. I can already see work being done to protect the
community for the future, yet I believe there is more we might do
to be even stronger.
I understand and appreciate Bastien's
Hi Jay,
Jay Kerns gjkerns...@gmail.com writes:
I have a mental first draft of things that could go in one, but
there's no point moving forward if there isn't a general feeling
that this would be something good to do.
Well, I would not invest too much time on this, personally.
From
Dear Andreas,
On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 3:59 PM, Andreas Röhler
andreas.roeh...@easy-emacs.de wrote:
Hi Jay,
if you permit my opinion as a kind of guest-reader for years: don't think
it's needed.
IMO it was an accident. Hopefully the person will recover and present it's
excuses some weeks
Dear Bastien,
On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 4:33 PM, Bastien b...@altern.org wrote:
Hi Jay,
Well, I would not invest too much time on this, personally.
No, you don't seem to be bothered at all; those attacks seem to
wash off you like water off a duck's back, or scandals off of Bill
Clinton's
Jay Kerns gjkerns...@gmail.com writes:
As Org grows there will be additional newbies (hopefully hundreds!)
and additional hostile individuals (hopefully epsilon). Those are the
two categories targeted by this proposal.
I sadly have to agree somehow. The Perl crowd, for example, was warm
and
Aloha Jay,
Jay Kerns gjkerns...@gmail.com writes:
That's my point: I propose that we, as a community, come to some
sort of consensus as to what un/acceptable behavior is and an
accepted mechanism of response. One way to accomplish this is
with a posting guide. I have some thoughts about
Dear Tom,
Perfect - that's just what I'm looking for. And that's exactly what I'll
do.
Cheers,
Jay
On Mar 13, 2013 6:16 PM, Thomas S. Dye t...@tsdye.com wrote:
Aloha Jay,
Jay Kerns gjkerns...@gmail.com writes:
That's my point: I propose that we, as a community, come to some
sort of
t...@tsdye.com (Thomas S. Dye) writes:
It tries to stay away from prescription, and it deliberately avoids
mentioning all the bad behaviors that can be found on mailing lists.
Please feel free to edit so it suits!
+1!
--
Bastien
Hi Jay,
Jay Kerns gjkerns...@gmail.com writes:
Please note that messages to the emacs-orgmode list are expected
to be civil and focused toward our mutual interest of Org
mode. /Ad hominem/ or other attacks of a personal nature will not
be tolerated by the community.
Any strenuous
Jay Kerns gjkernsysu at gmail.com writes:
Yes, I can add people to my SPAM filter (which I did, BTW), but
that action protects only *me*. It does not protect the
community.
It also doesn't protect digest readers such as myself.
I was quite annoyed by Jambunathan's suggestion that individual
Bastien writes:
No objection of course, but it feels both formal and empty to me.
I share Bastien's opinion. My experience with community building is
that describing and rewarding exemplary behavior is much more useful
than attempting to set strict rules of behavior. You need some basic
Robert Horn rjh...@alum.mit.edu writes:
It's much better for people trying be be like her, because everyone
respects and honors her, rather than following some set of detailed
rules.
Her??? Who is she?
Never met her on this list
--
cheers,
Thorsten
On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 8:34 PM, Robert Horn rjh...@alum.mit.edu wrote:
I share Bastien's opinion. My experience with community building is
that describing and rewarding exemplary behavior is much more useful
than attempting to set strict rules of behavior. You need some basic
rules, but
Hi Jay,
Jay Kerns gjkerns...@gmail.com writes:
As promised, I added a sentence to that paragraph: Ad hominem
comments are out of place and will not be tolerated by the
community. If one of you feels this is inconsistent with Org's
spirit, feel free to delete my change (it is a wiki, after
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