Re: [org-cite] citations in property drawers?

2021-09-16 Thread Tom Gillespie
> I understand the problem, but the solution should not be: "let's pretend > export does not exist". >From my perspective any org object that is not in a section that allows org objects could in principle be parsed as such, but it would not be in the core of the grammar, and it also would have to

Re: [org-cite] citations in property drawers?

2021-09-15 Thread Nicolas Goaziou
Hello, John Kitchin writes: > Not all org files are destined for export. I slightly feel users should be > allowed to put citations in places where it might not make sense in export, > and that they are responsible for knowing what they are doing. > > I am sympathetic to the reality that the

Re: [org-cite] citations in property drawers?

2021-09-15 Thread Bruce D'Arcus
I'm not going to defend what Nicolas characterized as a "terrible idea,", but to explain a bit ... The idea was motivated by wanting to access org-cite activate and follow functionality from the property drawer; NOT export (which as Nicolas says, would cause problems). The current

Re: [org-cite] citations in property drawers?

2021-09-15 Thread John Kitchin
Not all org files are destined for export. I slightly feel users should be allowed to put citations in places where it might not make sense in export, and that they are responsible for knowing what they are doing. I am sympathetic to the reality that the second half of that statement is a big

Re: [org-cite] citations in property drawers?

2021-09-15 Thread Tom Gillespie
> That would be a terrible idea. Exporters are not required to handle all > data contained in properties drawers, so this may introduce errors, > e.g., when trying to number citations. I agree completely. You can't export something that has no anchor in text that would be rendered. Maybe I

Re: [org-cite] citations in property drawers?

2021-09-15 Thread Nicolas Goaziou
Hello, Tom Gillespie writes: > I could certainly imagine using it, and I don't see any issue with > doing it from the point of view of the grammar. That would be a terrible idea. Exporters are not required to handle all data contained in properties drawers, so this may introduce errors,

Re: [org-cite] citations in property drawers?

2021-09-14 Thread Tom Gillespie
Hi Bruce, I could certainly imagine using it, and I don't see any issue with doing it from the point of view of the grammar. Footnotes can appear in a property drawer without issue, though obviously they don't export. One question though since I may have missed this in the other threads is

Re: [org-cite] citations in property drawers?

2021-09-09 Thread Bruce D'Arcus
Just bumping this. Another question about where to allow cite elements. On Fri, Aug 20, 2021 at 4:18 PM Bruce D'Arcus wrote: > > So this is a tentative request/question; I'm not really sure the best > approach here. > > This is based on discussion with one of the org-roam-bibtex developers >

[org-cite] citations in property drawers?

2021-08-20 Thread Bruce D'Arcus
So this is a tentative request/question; I'm not really sure the best approach here. This is based on discussion with one of the org-roam-bibtex developers about what the proper way to indicate an org-roam note is a bibliographic note; e.g. a note about a bibliographic source. Traditionally in