+1
On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 3:13 PM, Jay Kerns wrote:
> The past few days have reminded me of something somebody famous
> once said [1]. I can already see work being done to protect the
> community for the future, yet I believe there is more we might do
> to be even stronger.
>
> I understand and
Am 13.03.2013 20:13, schrieb Jay Kerns:
The past few days have reminded me of something somebody famous
once said [1]. I can already see work being done to protect the
community for the future, yet I believe there is more we might do
to be even stronger.
I understand and appreciate Bastien's sta
Hi Jay,
Jay Kerns writes:
> I have a mental "first draft" of things that could go in one, but
> there's no point moving forward if there isn't a general feeling
> that this would be something good to do.
Well, I would not invest too much time on this, personally.
>From experience, such a dra
Dear Andreas,
On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 3:59 PM, Andreas Röhler
wrote:
> Hi Jay,
>
> if you permit my opinion as a kind of guest-reader for years: don't think
> it's needed.
> IMO it was an accident. Hopefully the person will recover and present it's
> excuses some weeks or month later.
>
> Expec
Dear Bastien,
On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 4:33 PM, Bastien wrote:
> Hi Jay,
> Well, I would not invest too much time on this, personally.
No, you don't seem to be bothered at all; those attacks seem to
wash off you like water off a duck's back, or scandals off of Bill
Clinton's resume. ;-)
> Fro
Jay Kerns writes:
> As Org grows there will be additional newbies (hopefully hundreds!)
> and additional hostile individuals (hopefully epsilon). Those are the
> two categories targeted by this proposal.
I sadly have to agree somehow. The Perl crowd, for example, was warm
and interesting when
Aloha Jay,
Jay Kerns writes:
>
> That's my point: I propose that we, as a community, come to some
> sort of consensus as to what un/acceptable behavior is and an
> accepted mechanism of response. One way to accomplish this is
> with a posting guide. I have some thoughts about this:
>
> 1. It sh
Dear Tom,
Perfect - that's just what I'm looking for. And that's exactly what I'll
do.
Cheers,
Jay
On Mar 13, 2013 6:16 PM, "Thomas S. Dye" wrote:
> Aloha Jay,
>
> Jay Kerns writes:
>
> >
> > That's my point: I propose that we, as a community, come to some
> > sort of consensus as to what un/
t...@tsdye.com (Thomas S. Dye) writes:
> It tries to stay away from prescription, and it deliberately avoids
> mentioning all the bad behaviors that can be found on mailing lists.
>
> Please feel free to edit so it suits!
+1!
--
Bastien
Hi Jay,
Jay Kerns writes:
> "Please note that messages to the emacs-orgmode list are expected
> to be civil and focused toward our mutual interest of Org
> mode. /Ad hominem/ or other attacks of a personal nature will not
> be tolerated by the community."
>
> Any strenuous objections?
No object
Jay Kerns gmail.com> writes:
> Yes, I can add people to my SPAM filter (which I did, BTW), but
> that action protects only *me*. It does not protect the
> community.
It also doesn't protect digest readers such as myself.
I was quite annoyed by Jambunathan's suggestion that individual spam filt
Bastien writes:
> No objection of course, but it feels both formal and empty to me.
>
I share Bastien's opinion. My experience with community building is
that describing and rewarding exemplary behavior is much more useful
than attempting to set strict rules of behavior. You need some basic
ru
Robert Horn writes:
> It's much better for people trying be "be like her, because everyone
> respects and honors her", rather than following some set of detailed
> rules.
Her??? Who is she?
Never met her on this list
--
cheers,
Thorsten
On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 8:34 PM, Robert Horn wrote:
>
> I share Bastien's opinion. My experience with community building is
> that describing and rewarding exemplary behavior is much more useful
> than attempting to set strict rules of behavior. You need some basic
> rules, but then emphasize d
Hi Jay,
Jay Kerns writes:
> As promised, I added a sentence to that paragraph: "Ad hominem
> comments are out of place and will not be tolerated by the
> community." If one of you feels this is inconsistent with Org's
> spirit, feel free to delete my change (it is a wiki, after all).
> No hard
Just a short comment:
There is one incident caused by one user - this is an outlier in all
statistical measures. I don't think it is reasonable to react with new rules
- by discussing the issue caused by one user, we are playing by their rules!
Ignore the one user but keep your eyes and ears ope
On 13 mrt. 2013, at 22:07, Jay Kerns wrote:
> Dear Bastien,
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 4:33 PM, Bastien wrote:
>> Hi Jay,
>
>> Well, I would not invest too much time on this, personally.
>
> No, you don't seem to be bothered at all; those attacks seem to
> wash off you like water off a d
> it seems to me that this is entirely superfluous. I have not seen a
> mailing lit with better behavior anywhere. We should not be distracted
> by a lone user.
FWIW, +1
Memnon Anon writes:
>> it seems to me that this is entirely superfluous. I have not seen a
>> mailing lit with better behavior anywhere. We should not be distracted
>> by a lone user.
>
> FWIW, +1
+2 :)
Bernt
[snip]
>> FWIW, +1
>
> +2 :)
>
Fair enough. I agree that time shouldn't be wasted on lone users, and
that includes me:
http://orgmode.org/w/?p=worg.git;a=commitdiff;h=933d17d268a1618d9244c12014403a05c05c5a25
Cheers,
--
Jay
Reading my message again, it doesn't say what I wanted it to say, and
it sounds in my head not in the way I wanted it to sound. Let me try
again, with more words:
That's totally fine by me, I meant it when I said "OK if you don't
want to do that", and I don't want a silly thing like a posting gui
On 14.3.2013, at 20:53, Jay Kerns wrote:
> Reading my message again, it doesn't say what I wanted it to say, and
> it sounds in my head not in the way I wanted it to sound. Let me try
> again, with more words:
>
> That's totally fine by me, I meant it when I said "OK if you don't
> want to do
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