Re: Can't isearch 'ö'

2005-05-01 Thread Kenichi Handa
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Luc Teirlinck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > There is something that has not been pointed out in the summary Handa > gave, but which I believe may be relevant. If I understood correctly, > the problem in question will automatically completely disappear with > Unicod

Re: Can't isearch 'ö'

2005-05-01 Thread Stefan Monnier
> There is something that has not been pointed out in the summary Handa > gave, but which I believe may be relevant. If I understood correctly, > the problem in question will automatically completely disappear with > Unicode and hence with Emacs 23. (Unless I misunderstood.) Indeed, St

Re: Can't isearch 'ö'

2005-05-01 Thread Luc Teirlinck
There is something that has not been pointed out in the summary Handa gave, but which I believe may be relevant. If I understood correctly, the problem in question will automatically completely disappear with Unicode and hence with Emacs 23. (Unless I misunderstood.) Sincerely, Luc. _

Re: Can't isearch 'ö'

2005-04-29 Thread Richard Stallman
Stefan's proposal is to translate a character by translation-table-for-input in read_char (). This is a generic solution, but it makes read_char () return different character depending on the buffer-file-coding-system of the current buffer, which may or may not cause anther pro

Re: Can't isearch 'ö'

2005-04-26 Thread Richard Stallman
We (me and Stefan) has already shown opinions and solutions to the problem. Richard, could you please decide what to do? I have not been reading these messages, because they were numerous and long. Now that there are two proposals, would you please show me the two proposals, each des

Re: Can't isearch 'ö'

2005-04-24 Thread Kenichi Handa
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Stefan Monnier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> The very right way is to shift to emacs-unicode. As long as >> we have multiple character codes for characters that user >> don't want to distinguish, any fix is just a dirty work >> around. > I'm not sure about "w

Re: Can't isearch 'ö'

2005-04-23 Thread Peter Dyballa
Hello! I am not sure whether I understood the discussion, but wasn't it about whether it's worth to correct the i-search code or better do it in the Unicode version of Emacs? So I better should keep the patches Stefan Monnier sent me and not update from CVS that often? -- Greetings Pete "They

Re: Re: Can't isearch 'ö'

2005-04-18 Thread Richard Stallman
I didn't know that self-insert-cmmand also uses translation-table-for-input. I have thought that the variable is for an input method as in this docstring: Perhaps the first step is to come up with a clearer statement of what its job should be. From that, we should be able to decide e

Re: Can't isearch 'ö'

2005-04-18 Thread Stefan Monnier
> The very right way is to shift to emacs-unicode. As long as > we have multiple character codes for characters that user > don't want to distinguish, any fix is just a dirty work > around. I'm not sure about "workaround" but it'll only ever be a heuristic. > Your patch may fix not only the curr

Re: Can't isearch 'ö'

2005-04-17 Thread Kenichi Handa
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Stefan Monnier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> No, I can't. But shouldn't we avoid such an incompatible >> change at this stage? > Can be. But since it's about a year now since we called a freeze and I see > no sign of getting to the pretest stage, I figure I do

Re: Can't isearch 'ö'

2005-04-17 Thread Stefan Monnier
> No, I can't. But shouldn't we avoid such an incompatible > change at this stage? Can be. But since it's about a year now since we called a freeze and I see no sign of getting to the pretest stage, I figure I don't understand enough what "feature freeze" means: I just propose changes and I'll l

Re: Can't isearch 'ö'

2005-04-17 Thread Kenichi Handa
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Stefan Monnier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >>> Hmm... indeed the translation-table-for-input is not used for X11 keys. >>> Now that I look at it a bit more, I think the patch below would make sense. >>> What do other people think? >> That doesn't work in some c

Re: Can't isearch 'ö'

2005-04-15 Thread Stefan Monnier
>> Hmm... indeed the translation-table-for-input is not used for X11 keys. >> Now that I look at it a bit more, I think the patch below would make sense. >> What do other people think? > That doesn't work in some case. The value of > translation-table-for-input can be different in each buffer > (

Re: Can't isearch 'ö'

2005-04-14 Thread Kenichi Handa
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Stefan Monnier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hmm... indeed the translation-table-for-input is not used for X11 keys. > Now that I look at it a bit more, I think the patch below would make sense. > What do other people think? That doesn't work in some case. The val

Re: Re: Can't isearch 'ö'

2005-04-14 Thread Peter Dyballa
Am 14.04.2005 um 16:31 schrieb Stefan Monnier: Any objection/adjustment? In X11 in an ISO 8859-1 buffer it works to i-search (and find) for Ã,Ã,Ã,Ã,à ... but: in an ISO 8859-2 buffer it fails to find  (degree). The original  is: character:  (04260, 2224, 0x8b0, U+00B0) charset: latin-iso