Re: emacs conflicts with gnome-settings-daemon

2006-09-30 Thread Richard Stallman
The bug report entered into the Gnome bugzilla database has not received a reply. If there is still no reply in the next couple days, I'll email the Gnome lists directly. Please do, and thanks. I think we should not delay the Emacs pretest for this. Could you add an entry in

Re: emacs conflicts with gnome-settings-daemon

2006-09-30 Thread Chong Yidong
Richard Stallman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The bug report entered into the Gnome bugzilla database has not received a reply. If there is still no reply in the next couple days, I'll email the Gnome lists directly. Please do, and thanks. I've emailed the Gnome

Re: emacs conflicts with gnome-settings-daemon

2006-09-22 Thread Richard Stallman
The problem's behavior looks like every other application receive input from the XIM server, but Emacs receive keyboard input directly, the XIM is bypassed. keyboard -- XIM -- application keyboard -- Emacs Are you saying that XIM can't ever work with Emacs? That

Re: emacs conflicts with gnome-settings-daemon

2006-09-22 Thread Zhang Wei
Richard Stallman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [...] Are you saying that XIM can't ever work with Emacs? Yes, that's what I mean. That might be ok, since Emacs has its own input methods. But it would be good to offer the possibility of using Emacs with XIM. And I thought that this DID work.

Re: emacs conflicts with gnome-settings-daemon

2006-09-21 Thread Miles Bader
Zhang Wei [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This bug is quite subtle and hard to trace. The problem is that other applications collaborate with gnome-settings-daemon quite well except Emacs, and you can activate XIM in Emacs with no difficulty if gnome-settings-daemon is not running. If Emacs _did_

Re: emacs conflicts with gnome-settings-daemon

2006-09-21 Thread Zhang Wei
2006/9/21, Miles Bader [EMAIL PROTECTED]: If Emacs _did_ cooperate, it would screw up common Emacs bindings. That isn't a problem for many Gnome apps, because they barely use any keybindings, but Emacs obviously uses keybindings very heavily, and this particular keybinding is extremely common

Re: emacs conflicts with gnome-settings-daemon

2006-09-21 Thread Zhang Wei
2006/9/21, Richard Stallman [EMAIL PROTECTED]: The developers of the gnome-settings-daemon should not have chosen a character that is so important for Emacs. Can you tell me their names and email addresses, so I can talk with them about this? I have talked to some of the initial reporters of

Re: emacs conflicts with gnome-settings-daemon

2006-09-21 Thread Richard Stallman
This bug has nothing to do with keybindings. Whatever hotkey is used for activate the input method, they won't function in Emacs if the gnome-settings-daemon is running, evenif you select the XIM panel with mouse, that means you won't find a way to input chinese with XIM in

emacs conflicts with gnome-settings-daemon

2006-09-19 Thread Zhang Wei
There's a lot of report from chinese Emacs community that Emacs conflicts with gnome-settings-daemon. `C-SPC' is widely accepted as the hot-key to activate XIM input method such as SCIM or fcitx in chinese linux community. But when gnome-settings-daemon is running, `C-SPC' is swallowed by emacs