Re: detect process coding system

2000-05-28 Thread Kai Großjohann
Yuji Yamano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > Do you think it would make sense to have a look at /etc/motd? That > > could shed some light on the coding used. > > Please let me know why /etc/motd? > I don't understand this issue, maybe. My reasoning went like this:

Re: barebones webpage?

2000-05-28 Thread Kai Großjohann
Yuji Yamano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > `@value{VERSION}' is manual's version. > I think a user need the version of rcp.el. I think the time has come now to create one version number for the whole package. Back when there was just one file, using the version number of rcp.el was convenient.

check in by grossjoh: 'rcp/lisp rcp.el,1.356'

2000-05-28 Thread Kai Grossjohann
Update of /services/emacs-rcp/cvsroot/rcp/lisp In directory lucy:/export/home/grossjoh/work/emacs-rcp/rcp/lisp Modified Files: rcp.el Log Message: More debugging messages for out-of-band methods. Change the rsync method to use ssh.

Re: [RFC] [PATCH] Implement `file-attributes' with perl(1)

2000-05-28 Thread Kai Großjohann
"Stefan Monnier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > "Daniel" == Daniel Pittman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > * Get group and user name on any machine with perl. > > Last I checked, this is never used. > The standard `file-attributes' does not have this `nonnumeric' argument > and the rcp.el c

Re: [RFC] [PATCH] Implement `file-attributes' with perl(1)

2000-05-28 Thread Kai Großjohann
Daniel Pittman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I don't want to drop this into the main source tree without some comment > though. There are several good points to it: > > * Get group and user name on any machine with perl. > * Get the [cma]time of the file. > * Very simple lisp for `file-attribute

rsync method: little problem

2000-05-28 Thread Kai Großjohann
At my site, I need to invoke rsync like this when saving the buffer: rsync -e ssh --rsync-path /path/to/nonstd/bin/rsync The problem is, /path/to/nonstd/bin/rsync might differ depending on the target host. The solution is to find the remote rsync executable using rcp-remote-path. What's stil

Re: barebones webpage?

2000-05-28 Thread Daniel Pittman
On Sun, 28 May 2000, Kai Großjohann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yuji Yamano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> `@value{VERSION}' is manual's version. >> I think a user need the version of rcp.el. > > I think the time has come now to create one version number for the > whole package. Back when

Re: [RFC] [PATCH] Implement `file-attributes' with perl(1)

2000-05-28 Thread Daniel Pittman
On Sun, 28 May 2000, Kai Großjohann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Daniel Pittman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> I don't want to drop this into the main source tree without some >> comment though. There are several good points to it: [...] > I had a look at your patch and I like it, though I d

Re: rsync method: little problem

2000-05-28 Thread Daniel Pittman
On Sun, 28 May 2000, Kai Großjohann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > At my site, I need to invoke rsync like this when saving the buffer: > > rsync -e ssh --rsync-path /path/to/nonstd/bin/rsync > > > The problem is, /path/to/nonstd/bin/rsync might differ depending on > the target host. The solut

check in by daniel: 'rcp/lisp rcp.el,1.357'

2000-05-28 Thread Owns all emacs-rcp files in CVS
Update of /services/emacs-rcp/cvsroot/rcp/lisp In directory bonny:/tmp/cvs-serv21052 Modified Files: rcp.el Log Message: Added a Perl-based implementation of 'file-attributes'. This is fairly well tested on my Linux machine, but not really on anything else. It /should/ just work though.

emacs compatibility

2000-05-28 Thread Joe Stoy
When trying to check out the latest rcp.el on a Solaris client with GNU Emacs 20.3.2 (sparc-sun-solaris2.5.1, X toolkit), I have the following difficulties. (1) base64.el[c] is not known to emacs; (2) nor is eval-when-feature. Is either of these because my emacs is out of date? I can find a

/usr/ucb/$(INSTALL)

2000-05-28 Thread Yuji Yamano
Does anyone need the path /usr/ucb for install command? We have the following target in texi/Makefile and lisp/Makefile. All the other targets using $(INSTALL) don't have such prefix. >> site-info: rcp.info >> /usr/ucb/$(INSTALL) rcp.info $(SINFO) >> site-lisp: all >> /usr/ucb/$(INSTA

Questions about rcp.texi

2000-05-28 Thread Yuji Yamano
I have some questions about rcp.texi. > Within these limitations, @rcp{} is quite powerful. It is worth noting > that, as of the time of writing, it is far from a polished end-user > product. For a while yet you should expect to run into rough edges and > problems with the code now and then. Wh

check in by yyamano: 'rcp/texi rcp_ja.texi,1.1'

2000-05-28 Thread Owns all emacs-rcp files in CVS
Update of /services/emacs-rcp/cvsroot/rcp/texi In directory bonny:/tmp/cvs-serv21190 Added Files: rcp_ja.texi Log Message: Japanese manual based on rcp.texi rev 1.22. The following sections are finished to translate. * Overview * Obtaining RCP * Installation * Bug Reports * Frequently A

check in by yyamano: 'rcp/texi Makefile,1.9'

2000-05-28 Thread Owns all emacs-rcp files in CVS
Update of /services/emacs-rcp/cvsroot/rcp/texi In directory bonny:/tmp/cvs-serv21249 Modified Files: Makefile Log Message: Add two targets for rcp_ja.texi. XXX - all XXX English people don't like that unused Japanese manual is XXX automatically generated? XXX - site-info_ja, int

check in by grossjoh: 'rcp/lisp rcp.el,1.358'

2000-05-28 Thread Kai Grossjohann
Update of /services/emacs-rcp/cvsroot/rcp/lisp In directory lucy:/export/home/grossjoh/work/emacs-rcp/rcp/lisp Modified Files: rcp.el Log Message: rcp-temporary-file-directory: don't use `t' as a local variable. Top-level: eval-when-feature not defined on Emacs 21.

check in by grossjoh: 'rcp/lisp rcp.el,1.359'

2000-05-28 Thread Kai Grossjohann
Update of /services/emacs-rcp/cvsroot/rcp/lisp In directory lucy:/export/home/grossjoh/work/emacs-rcp/rcp/lisp Modified Files: rcp.el Log Message: Add missing arg `path' to rcp-handle-file-attributes-with-*.

check in by grossjoh: 'rcp/lisp base64.el,1.1'

2000-05-28 Thread Kai Grossjohann
Update of /services/emacs-rcp/cvsroot/rcp/lisp In directory lucy:/export/home/grossjoh/work/emacs-rcp/rcp/lisp Added Files: base64.el Log Message: Snarf base64.el from Gnus 5.8.

check in by grossjoh: 'rcp/lisp Makefile,1.5'

2000-05-28 Thread Kai Grossjohann
Update of /services/emacs-rcp/cvsroot/rcp/lisp In directory lucy:/export/home/grossjoh/work/emacs-rcp/rcp/lisp Modified Files: Makefile Log Message: Snarf base64.el from Gnus 5.8.

Re: emacs compatibility

2000-05-28 Thread Kai Großjohann
Joe Stoy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > (1) base64.el[c] is not known to emacs; > (2) nor is eval-when-feature. I have changed from eval-when-feature to eval-after-load. And base64 support is native in Emacs 20.4 or 20.5 or something, if I'm not mistaken. (By `native', I meant coded in C.) bas

Re: emacs compatibility

2000-05-28 Thread Daniel Pittman
On Sun, 28 May 2000, Joe Stoy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > When trying to check out the latest rcp.el on a Solaris client with > GNU Emacs 20.3.2 (sparc-sun-solaris2.5.1, X toolkit), I have the > following difficulties. [...] > (2) nor is eval-when-feature. Oh, bugger. Hrm. I wonder what the

Re: Questions about rcp.texi

2000-05-28 Thread Daniel Pittman
On Mon, 29 May 2000, Yuji Yamano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have some questions about rcp.texi. > >> Within these limitations, @rcp{} is quite powerful. It is worth >> noting that, as of the time of writing, it is far from a polished >> end-user product. For a while yet you should expect to

check in by daniel: 'rcp/lisp rcp.el,1.360'

2000-05-28 Thread Owns all emacs-rcp files in CVS
Update of /services/emacs-rcp/cvsroot/rcp/lisp In directory bonny:/tmp/cvs-serv22047 Modified Files: rcp.el Log Message: Use `lsh' rather than `>>', as requested by Kai.

Re: /usr/ucb/$(INSTALL)

2000-05-28 Thread Kai Großjohann
Yuji Yamano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Does anyone need the path /usr/ucb for install command? /me raises hand I do. On Solaris, the system finds /usr/bin/install which is a different program entirely (the purpose is the same but the options are incompatible). I develop on Linux, but the r

check in by daniel: 'rcp/texi rcp.texi,1.23'

2000-05-28 Thread Owns all emacs-rcp files in CVS
Update of /services/emacs-rcp/cvsroot/rcp/texi In directory bonny:/tmp/cvs-serv22140 Modified Files: rcp.texi Log Message: Reword a few paragraphs to make their meanings clearer. Also removed some bits and pieces of humor. Austrailan cultural references don't seem to travel that well to

check in by daniel: 'rcp/lisp rcp-vc.el,1.2'

2000-05-28 Thread Owns all emacs-rcp files in CVS
Update of /services/emacs-rcp/cvsroot/rcp/lisp In directory bonny:/tmp/cvs-serv22170/lisp Modified Files: rcp-vc.el Log Message: Don't require 'rcp' in this file, it can cause issues.

check in by daniel: 'rcp/texi .cvsignore,1.4'

2000-05-28 Thread Owns all emacs-rcp files in CVS
Update of /services/emacs-rcp/cvsroot/rcp/texi In directory bonny:/tmp/cvs-serv22181 Modified Files: .cvsignore Log Message: Also ignore the 'dir' file.

locale, was: Questions about rcp.texi

2000-05-28 Thread Tom Roche
"Daniel Pittman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 5/28/00 8:29:23 PM >>> > Thanks for doing the translation, and I will act on some of the > points you had trouble with and make them clearer, to try and avoid > confusing more people. :) Hmm ... actually, I believe this thread illustrates the value of Yamano's

Re: locale, was: Questions about rcp.texi

2000-05-28 Thread Daniel Pittman
On Sun, 28 May 2000, Tom Roche <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "Daniel Pittman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 5/28/00 8:29:23 PM >>> >> Thanks for doing the translation, and I will act on some of the >> points you had trouble with and make them clearer, to try and avoid >> confusing more people. :) > > Hmm .

Re: barebones webpage?

2000-05-28 Thread Kai Großjohann
Daniel Pittman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Sun, 28 May 2000, Kai Großjohann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > Well, my personal first move - and you don't have to agree here - would > be to convince myself that the current version was stable enough that it > should be a release, or at least

check in by daniel: 'rcp/lisp rcp.el,1.361'

2000-05-28 Thread Owns all emacs-rcp files in CVS
Update of /services/emacs-rcp/cvsroot/rcp/lisp In directory bonny:/tmp/cvs-serv22284 Modified Files: rcp.el Log Message: Define the 'rcp-get-connection-property' and 'rcp-set-connection-property' methods. Remove some out-of-date todo items. (Implement file-attributes in Perl :)

check in by daniel: 'rcp/lisp rcp.el,1.362'

2000-05-28 Thread Owns all emacs-rcp files in CVS
Update of /services/emacs-rcp/cvsroot/rcp/lisp In directory bonny:/tmp/cvs-serv22305 Modified Files: rcp.el Log Message: Use the new connection property infrastructure for the remote Perl executable.

Re: rsync method: little problem

2000-05-28 Thread Kai Großjohann
Daniel Pittman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > So, why not let `rcp-rcp-args' (or something more useful) have several > types. Then, if it's a string, use `format' to put parameters in to it. > > If it's a function, call it with the arguments and let it do the remote > path stuff and so on. Good.

Re: Questions about rcp.texi

2000-05-28 Thread Kai Großjohann
Yuji Yamano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > It is finished enough that the developers use it for day to day work but > > the installation and setup can be a little difficult to master, as can > > the terminology. > > Does it means that installation and configuration are little difficult > becaus

Re: barebones webpage?

2000-05-28 Thread Daniel Pittman
On Sun, 28 May 2000, Kai Großjohann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Daniel Pittman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> On Sun, 28 May 2000, Kai Großjohann >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...] >> Mostly, though, I think you need to work out if the code is stable >> enough to make a real release. Espec