Re: [Emc-developers] The Last Public Domain Version

2012-08-24 Thread Steve Stallings
Generally speaking, law professionals who practice as part of a larger firm are prohibited from offering free advice under the terms of their association with the firm. Only if the firm agrees to do something for free can the individual offer free advice. > -Original Message- > From: an

Re: [Emc-developers] The Last Public Domain Version

2012-08-24 Thread andy pugh
On 24 August 2012 14:47, Kent A. Reed wrote: > Maybe we'll get lucky and Andy's contact will work out. This is the guy, but he hasn't responded yet: http://www.cornwallstreet.co.uk/component/content/article/34-profiles/191-Simon-Bradshaw I suspect his time might be full and expensive. -- atp

Re: [Emc-developers] The Last Public Domain Version

2012-08-24 Thread Dave
On 8/24/2012 3:06 PM, EBo wrote: > On Fri, 24 Aug 2012 13:01:39 -0400, Dave wrote: > >> ... >> >> I know that there are some companies who have used LinuxCNC as their >> machine controller and I am not convinced that they have followed the >> existing licensing on the LinuxCNC software. >> >> I

Re: [Emc-developers] Proposal: Attila Licensing: Re: LinuxCNC3, was: The Last Public Domain Version

2012-08-24 Thread Eric Keller
On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 3:00 PM, EBo wrote: > Would you prefer we discuss other licenses such as MIT, BSD, CC? > Unfortunately, I think we should be as open as possible with our licensing and purist on what we allow in the codebase. We should decide on a license and not allow code to make it int

Re: [Emc-developers] The Last Public Domain Version

2012-08-24 Thread EBo
On Fri, 24 Aug 2012 13:01:39 -0400, Dave wrote: > ... > > I know that there are some companies who have used LinuxCNC as their > machine controller and I am not convinced that they have followed the > existing licensing on the LinuxCNC software. > > If a company or individual does not follow the ex

Re: [Emc-developers] Proposal: Attila Licensing: Re: LinuxCNC3, was: The Last Public Domain Version

2012-08-24 Thread EBo
On Fri, 24 Aug 2012 14:52:39 -0400, Eric Keller wrote: > On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 1:54 PM, Lee Studley > wrote: > >> >> I personally feel its sad to make licensing so complex in an open >> source or GPL type >> environment. It impedes the flow free associative sharing of ideas ( >> Oppenheimer-end

Re: [Emc-developers] Proposal: Attila Licensing: Re: LinuxCNC3, was: The Last Public Domain Version

2012-08-24 Thread EBo
On Fri, 24 Aug 2012 10:54:38 -0700, Lee Studley wrote: > ... Maybe "ProDarwin Licensing" would that automatically nominate it for a Darwin Award EBo -- -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will co

Re: [Emc-developers] Proposal: Attila Licensing: Re: LinuxCNC3, was: The Last Public Domain Version

2012-08-24 Thread Eric Keller
On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 1:54 PM, Lee Studley wrote: > > I personally feel its sad to make licensing so complex in an open > source or GPL type > environment. It impedes the flow free associative sharing of ideas ( > Oppenheimer-endorsed ). > I agree. The militant license fanatics are trying to m

Re: [Emc-developers] Proposal: Attila Licensing: Re: LinuxCNC3, was: The Last Public Domain Version

2012-08-24 Thread Lee Studley
Just was in jest, of course, credit will also be given, but in reality this scenario often happens internationally. I personally feel its sad to make licensing so complex in an open source or GPL type environment. It impedes the flow free associative sharing of ideas ( Oppenheimer-endorsed ).

[Emc-developers] Proposal: Attila Licensing: Re: LinuxCNC3, was: The Last Public Domain Version

2012-08-24 Thread Lee Studley
Proposal: Attila Licensing: " if you put source code out there for people to see, we will conquer it, reorganize it, and make it ours!!! HAHAHHAHA" On 8/24/2012 8:52 AM, Dave wrote: > On 8/24/2012 1:13 AM, Michael Haberler wrote: >> Am 23.08.2012 um 20:17 schrieb Kent A. Reed: >> >> >>> O

Re: [Emc-developers] The Last Public Domain Version

2012-08-24 Thread Dave
On 8/24/2012 8:35 AM, Matt Shaver wrote: > If anyone wants to rebut, dispute, or otherwise challenge my analysis > or conclusions about the copyright status of Linuxcnc, it would be > great if you could do so some time in the next two weeks or so. If you > need more time to compose your arguments,

Re: [Emc-developers] LinuxCNC3, was: The Last Public Domain Version

2012-08-24 Thread Dave
On 8/24/2012 1:13 AM, Michael Haberler wrote: > Am 23.08.2012 um 20:17 schrieb Kent A. Reed: > > >> On 8/23/2012 12:59 PM, Michael Haberler wrote: >> > ... > >>> As for Linuxcnc3, I think it would be foolish to start such effort without >>> a clear, stated intent, and actually a very

Re: [Emc-developers] The Last Public Domain Version

2012-08-24 Thread Kent A. Reed
On 8/24/2012 9:04 AM, EBo wrote: > Has anyone thought of contacting a law school and see if a student > would take it on as a class project? > > EBo -- That's a clever idea, EBo. It might be particularly attractive to a law school because of the recent dust-ups over software patents and such.

Re: [Emc-developers] The Last Public Domain Version

2012-08-24 Thread EBo
On Fri, 24 Aug 2012 08:35:54 -0400, Matt Shaver wrote: > If anyone wants to rebut, dispute, or otherwise challenge my analysis > or conclusions about the copyright status of Linuxcnc, it would be > great if you could do so some time in the next two weeks or so. If > you > need more time to compose

Re: [Emc-developers] LinuxCNC3, was: The Last Public Domain Version

2012-08-24 Thread EBo
On Fri, 24 Aug 2012 07:13:11 +0200, Michael Haberler wrote: > Am 23.08.2012 um 20:17 schrieb Kent A. Reed: > >> On 8/23/2012 12:59 PM, Michael Haberler wrote: > ... >>> As for Linuxcnc3, I think it would be foolish to start such effort >>> without a clear, stated intent, and actually a very simple

Re: [Emc-developers] The Last Public Domain Version

2012-08-24 Thread andy pugh
On 24 August 2012 14:35, Matt Shaver wrote: > If anyone wants to rebut, dispute, or otherwise challenge my analysis > or conclusions about the copyright status of Linuxcnc, I passed it on to an IP Law Barrister friend. But I am not sure if he will reply. -- atp If you can't fix it, you don't ow

Re: [Emc-developers] The Last Public Domain Version

2012-08-24 Thread Matt Shaver
If anyone wants to rebut, dispute, or otherwise challenge my analysis or conclusions about the copyright status of Linuxcnc, it would be great if you could do so some time in the next two weeks or so. If you need more time to compose your arguments, just post a short e-mail to the list saying so!

Re: [Emc-developers] Goals for LinuxCNC3

2012-08-24 Thread Michael Haberler
Am 23.08.2012 um 19:18 schrieb Kenneth Lerman: > We would probably like to support multiple (replaceable) interpreters, > so there would be an easy means to define new interpreted languages. yes. But before I'd go ahead and carry over the existing pluggable interpreter model in some shape or f