Re: [Emc-developers] Request for feature

2013-06-15 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 15 June 2013 20:47:44 John Kasunich did opine: > Why don't you just touch off? > > Home to any old place. > > Take a test cut at a programmed diameter of say 0.550". > That means the programmed X value is 0.2750. After > the cut, get the tool clear however you want, then move > it b

Re: [Emc-developers] Request for feature

2013-06-15 Thread John Kasunich
Why don't you just touch off? Home to any old place. Take a test cut at a programmed diameter of say 0.550". That means the programmed X value is 0.2750. After the cut, get the tool clear however you want, then move it back to X=0.2750 (I usually just do an MDI command). Mic the part you just t

[Emc-developers] Request for feature

2013-06-15 Thread Gene Heskett
Greets all; I am still in the process of 'calibrating' this thing, having whipped the motor speeds into shape with a lincurve between the pid.out and the pwmge.value in pins. Works nicely now. And it only took another iteration to get the Z home position set about a thou off the face of the n

Re: [Emc-developers] Finally, A Proposal

2013-06-15 Thread EBo
On Jun 15 2013 12:42 PM, John Kasunich wrote: > On Sat, Jun 15, 2013, at 02:38 PM, EBo wrote: > >> Sorry. I must have misread your name with the (sourceforge) BLOCKS >> post. I figure that if that was you then we could ditch that and >> start >> a new one with MachineKit. > > I was the one who s

Re: [Emc-developers] Finally, A Proposal

2013-06-15 Thread Jon Elson
John Kasunich wrote: > On Sat, Jun 15, 2013, at 12:32 PM, Jon Elson wrote: > >> The customer >> has some razor blades on a chain, and these need to move like >> electronic gearing when a part comes down a production line. >> > > Unrelated to the main thread - if doing electronic gearing, I

Re: [Emc-developers] Proposal: linuxcnc defaults: make it easy to build HAL standalone .ini files

2013-06-15 Thread Michael Haberler
Am 15.06.2013 um 20:35 schrieb John Kasunich : > Typically, if I want a HAL only configuration, I write a .hal file > and then invoke it with "halrun -f myhalfile.hal" me too, but that wont be picked up by the linuxcnc config selector, which defeats the purpose of doing an easily accessible dem

Re: [Emc-developers] Finally, A Proposal

2013-06-15 Thread John Kasunich
On Sat, Jun 15, 2013, at 02:38 PM, EBo wrote: > Sorry. I must have misread your name with the (sourceforge) BLOCKS > post. I figure that if that was you then we could ditch that and start > a new one with MachineKit. I was the one who started the BLOCS project at SF. As far as I'm concerned

Re: [Emc-developers] Finally, A Proposal

2013-06-15 Thread EBo
On Jun 15 2013 11:23 AM, John Kasunich wrote: > On Sat, Jun 15, 2013, at 12:51 PM, EBo wrote: >> On Jun 15 2013 10:00 AM, John Kasunich wrote: > >> > I fully support Michael's "MachineKit" idea. And I like his name >> > better too. >> >> I just checked, and there is not MachineKit project on sourc

Re: [Emc-developers] Proposal: linuxcnc defaults: make it easy to build HAL standalone .ini files

2013-06-15 Thread John Kasunich
Typically, if I want a HAL only configuration, I write a .hal file and then invoke it with "halrun -f myhalfile.hal" I haven't thought about the implications of doing it as described below. On Sat, Jun 15, 2013, at 02:01 PM, Michael Haberler wrote: > I propose to change linuxcnc (as in scripts/li

[Emc-developers] Proposal: fix '-ini' arg syntax

2013-06-15 Thread Michael Haberler
I propose to change all code in linuxCNC requiring ini variables as follows: - any code needing to access ini file variables is to investigate the environment for the INI_FILE_NAME variable - drop any use of '-ini' from programs - if needed, run said programs with 'INI_FILE_NAME= command' Rati

[Emc-developers] Proposal: linuxcnc defaults: make it easy to build HAL standalone .ini files

2013-06-15 Thread Michael Haberler
I propose to change linuxcnc (as in scripts/linuxcnc.in) as follows: - If a '[TASK]TASK=' (no argument to TASK) clause is not given in the ini file, do NOT start milltask. - if a '[EMCIO]EMCIO=' (no argument to EMCIO) is not given in the ini file, do NOT start io . Rationale: defaults are usef

Re: [Emc-developers] Finally, A Proposal

2013-06-15 Thread Michael Haberler
Am 15.06.2013 um 18:51 schrieb EBo : > On Jun 15 2013 10:00 AM, John Kasunich wrote: >> On Sat, Jun 15, 2013, at 04:03 AM, Michael Haberler wrote: >>> Andy, Jon - >>> > On 14 June 2013 15:03, Matt Shaver wrote: > >> Should, for >> example, the HAL be installable as a stand alon

Re: [Emc-developers] Finally, A Proposal

2013-06-15 Thread John Kasunich
On Sat, Jun 15, 2013, at 12:51 PM, EBo wrote: > On Jun 15 2013 10:00 AM, John Kasunich wrote: > > I fully support Michael's "MachineKit" idea. And I like his name > > better too. > > I just checked, and there is not MachineKit project on sourceforge. If > there are no objections I strongly n

Re: [Emc-developers] Finally, A Proposal

2013-06-15 Thread EBo
On Jun 15 2013 10:00 AM, John Kasunich wrote: > On Sat, Jun 15, 2013, at 04:03 AM, Michael Haberler wrote: >> Andy, Jon - >> >> >> On 14 June 2013 15:03, Matt Shaver wrote: >> >> >> >>> Should, for >> >>> example, the HAL be installable as a stand alone system (without >> the >> >>> CNC part of l

Re: [Emc-developers] Finally, A Proposal

2013-06-15 Thread John Kasunich
On Sat, Jun 15, 2013, at 12:32 PM, Jon Elson wrote: > The customer > has some razor blades on a chain, and these need to move like > electronic gearing when a part comes down a production line. Unrelated to the main thread - if doing electronic gearing, I suggest reading about the "encoder-rati

Re: [Emc-developers] Finally, A Proposal

2013-06-15 Thread EBo
On Jun 15 2013 10:32 AM, Jon Elson wrote: > John Kasunich wrote: >> That was mostly >> driven by adamant opposition to HAL by certain EMC people. >> I wanted to make sure that even if HAL didn't wind up in EMC >> (or it was heavily watered down), the highly modular concept >> would be preserved e

Re: [Emc-developers] Finally, A Proposal

2013-06-15 Thread Jon Elson
John Kasunich wrote: > That was mostly > driven by adamant opposition to HAL by certain EMC people. > I wanted to make sure that even if HAL didn't wind up in EMC > (or it was heavily watered down), the highly modular concept > would be preserved elsewhere. Once HAL caught on as part > of EMC2,

Re: [Emc-developers] Finally, A Proposal

2013-06-15 Thread John Kasunich
On Sat, Jun 15, 2013, at 04:03 AM, Michael Haberler wrote: > Andy, Jon - > > >> On 14 June 2013 15:03, Matt Shaver wrote: > >> > >>> Should, for > >>> example, the HAL be installable as a stand alone system (without the > >>> CNC part of linuxcnc)? That was John Kasunich's original idea. IIRC

Re: [Emc-developers] Finally, A Proposal

2013-06-15 Thread Michael Haberler
Andy, Jon - Am 15.06.2013 um 03:52 schrieb Jon Elson : > andy pugh wrote: >> On 14 June 2013 15:03, Matt Shaver wrote: >> >>> Should, for >>> example, the HAL be installable as a stand alone system (without the >>> CNC part of linuxcnc)? That was John Kasunich's original idea. IIRC >>> he was g