Leakage current for products certified to EN 60601-1/UL 2601-1

2001-01-26 Thread Andrews, Kurt
List members, Could someone please tell me what the maximum leakage current for products certified to EN 60601-1 and UL 2601-1 is? I know it is 3.5mA for Information Technology Equipment and it is much lower for medical products but I don't know what it is. Thanks, Kurt Andrews Compliance Engin

RE: Product Marking - new twist

2001-01-26 Thread WOODS
I am commenting on a question and reply which is further back in this continuing conversation. > Question: For products with external AC power supplies, would the NRTL mark need > to be on the supply and the product? Or the supply only? Previous reply: The external ac power supply must be "

RE: Product Marking - new twist

2001-01-26 Thread Ned Devine
Hi, Just having NRTL accreditation from OSHA is not necessarily enough. Some states (i.e. North Carolina and Oregon) and local authorities (i.e. City of Las Angeles) have there own requirements. These local regulations can override the OSHA NRTL program. The NRTL must have/get approval from th

RE: Lights for 3-meter Chamber

2001-01-26 Thread Ned Devine
Hi, Be careful of the hot light bulbs. I was witness to a "fire" when the foam tiles on the ceiling came loose and touched the hot flood lamps. The "fire" smoldered for a long time till the fire sprinklers activated. I also learned that normal sprinklers heads don't spray up. Because the spri

RE: IPX4 TESTERS

2001-01-26 Thread Andrews, Kurt
Ken, Contact Educated Design & Development at 800-806-6236. They sell a Hand Held Spray Tester and various models of an Oscillating Spray Tester. According to their catalog these would both satisfy the test requirements for IPX4. Kurt Andrews Compliance Engineer Tracewell Systems, Inc. 567 Ente

Job opportunity - Product Safety

2001-01-26 Thread peter . tarver
Job Title: Product Safety Engineer Job Location: San Jose, CA Company Description:Sanmina is a "Tier-1" electronics manufacturing services (EMS) company with over 50 world class manufacturing facilities. Sanmina provides a full spectrum of integrated, value-added services that includes

Job opportunity - Product Integrity

2001-01-26 Thread peter . tarver
Job Title: Product Integrity Engineer Job Location: San Jose, CA Company Description:Sanmina is a "Tier-1" electronics manufacturing services (EMS) company with over 50 world class manufacturing facilities. Sanmina provides a full spectrum of integrated, value-added services that inclu

Shipping within Sweden

2001-01-26 Thread Brent Pahl
Does anybody know what the regulatory requirements are for ITE equipment shipping from one company within Sweden to another company within Sweden? Are they any different than the normal European Union requirements? Is there any difference in timing (i.e. testing, reports, shipping, etc...)? I am

Re: Product Marking - new twist

2001-01-26 Thread Rich Nute
Hi Andy: > Is it possible that a piece of equipment with an NRTL listing can be > disconnected by a local electrical inspector/electrician enforcing the NEC > because that paticular NRTL is not "approved" in their jurisdiction? Yes. Please recognize: "NRTL" is an OSHA program gove

RE: Decoupling Capacitors

2001-01-26 Thread O'Shaughnessy, Paul
A moving and passionate tale with a moral: DO NOT let anyone screw with your PC boards! Every one of these stories, from internal tracks that break, to creepage failures due to copper thieving squares, to bypass capacitors disappearing because "they don't matter all that much anyway" trace back

IPX4 TESTERS

2001-01-26 Thread Matsuda, Ken
Would anyone know where I would be able to purchase an IPX4 tester? Thanks, Ken --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.

RE: Fire alarm equipment - EU approval regime

2001-01-26 Thread Kevin Harris
Hello Amund, Frustrating isn't it. Here we have European Norms but the individual countries are insisting on doing their own testing to the same standard. There was a meeting in October in Madrid of EFSAC (European Fire and Security Advisory Council) on this very subject. Go to http://efsac.org

Re:markings

2001-01-26 Thread brian_kunde
Brian, Check out the following web site: http://w3.hike.te.chiba-u.ac.jp/iec417/ver2.0/html/index.html It has the IEC417 on-line. I think the AC symbol you are referring to is No. 417-IEC-5032 Brian Reply Separator Subject:markings Author: Brian

RE: Plastic Bezel Safety Requirements

2001-01-26 Thread Andrews, Kurt
Sharon, >From EN 60950 clause 4.4.4 Materials for enclosures and for decorative parts Materials used for ENCLOSURES of equipment shall be such that the risk of ignition and the spread of fire or flames is minimized. Metals, ceramic materials, and glass which is heat-resistant tempered, wired or

[Fwd: Plastic Bezel Safety Requirements]

2001-01-26 Thread Andrew Carson
-- Andrew Carson - Product Safety Engineer Xyratex Engineering Laboratory Tele 023 92496855 Fax 023 92496014 --- Begin Message --- Sharon If the plastic part is outside the Fire Enclosure and there are no sources of ignition next to it. (Limited power source). Then the standard regards it as "

Re: consumer electronics used on board aircraft

2001-01-26 Thread Andrew Carson
A little home experiment to demonstrate the effect of Cell phones on signal lines. Take you old fashioned analogue land line and make a phone call. Switch on your Cell Phone and hold it say, 0.5m form the phone. Every time the Cell Phone sends out a signal to handshake with the base station, you

RE: Decoupling Capacitors

2001-01-26 Thread Mark Gill
Hey Chris - Great story, and speaks well to Signal Integrity Engineering, the offshoot of EMC. Regards, Mark Gill EMC/Safety/NEBS Design & Compliance C-MAC Design Corporation -Original Message- From: Chris Maxwell [mailto:chris.maxw...@gnnettest.com] Sent: Friday, January 26, 2001 9:38 A

RE: Plastic Bezel Safety Requirements

2001-01-26 Thread Lyons, Jim
If you removed the plastic piece and still had a complete fire enclosure as defined by the standards, then the plastic piece is decorative and can be rated HB. If the plastic piece is a functional part of the enclosure, it would be V1 or 5V depending on the classification of the equipment. Jim -

markings

2001-01-26 Thread Brian O'Connell
A copy of IEC417 is not avail to me. Could some pls advise if there are requirments to mark input and output Vs on component power supplies with the graphical symbols for AC and DC? Note that 60950 (Clause 1.7) only requires symbols if the input is DC; but a respected agency engineer says the sym

Decoupling Capacitors

2001-01-26 Thread Chris Maxwell
Just a little personal experience I want to relate. The EMC people can really appreciate this. Sorry about the long, conversational tone, but I think it will help people appreciate how much effort could have been prevented by following simple EMC design rules. One of our products has a motherbo

Plastic Bezel Safety Requirements

2001-01-26 Thread Sharon Andrus
Hello Group, I have been informed and entertained for many seasons by following the various safety and EMI/EMC threads of this group. Now it is my turn to ask for assistance. What are the safety requirements ( UL 1950, CSA 950, EN 60950 ) for a plastic bezel on the outside of a metal chassis fo

RE: Product Marking - new twist

2001-01-26 Thread Veit, Andy
Rich- Thanks for the detailed reply to Chris's questions. Is it possible that a piece of equipment with an NRTL listing can be disconnected by a local electrical inspector/electrician enforcing the NEC because that paticular NRTL is not "approved" in their jurisdiction? Doesn't the NRTL approva

RE: Fuse Markings

2001-01-26 Thread James, Chris
If the power brick is only intended for removal by a qualified service Engineer, the marking need only be applied to the external rear panel visible to the user - based on my experience of having units qualified to EN 60065. Chris -Original Message- From: Davis, Mike [mailto:mike_da...@

Fire alarm equipment - EU approval regime

2001-01-26 Thread amund
Hi members My questions are related to Fire alarm equipment (panels, detectors, etc) and the approval regime in Europe. Today the EN54-series are mandatory in most/all countries within EU. But as a manufacturer you have no chance to carry out a one-stop-shopping/testing for all national approv

Re: consumer electronics used on board aircraft

2001-01-26 Thread Ken Javor
No. It has to do, like the other gentleman said, with confusing the system by having one cell phone talking to two or more towers at the same time. -- >From: rbus...@es.com >To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org >Subject: RE: consumer electronics used on board aircraft >Date: Thu, Jan 25, 2001

Re: MIL-STD-461E

2001-01-26 Thread Ken Javor
RS105 is the HAEMP requirement. It is 50 kV/m double-exponential type waveform generated with a parallel plate. This is obviously an unclassified requirement. There is a somewhat subtle change between D and E. D shows the peak at less than or equal to 10 ns. E shows the peak at 5 ns. Other

Re: Lights for 3-meter Chamber

2001-01-26 Thread Ken Javor
One caveat. If you are on a budget for a room, fluorescents can be very handy in that they don't add nearly to the heat load that needs to be removed like incandescents. You need enough incandescents to light the room sufficiently when the fluorescents are turned off during an RE test. ---