Re: EN55022:1998 + A1:2000

2003-01-28 Thread lfresea...@aol.com
In a message dated 1/28/03 6:32:49 PM Central Standard Time, drcuthb...@micron.com writes: A1 to EN55022:1998 requires the use of ferrite clamps on all cables leaving the table-top EUT for a connection outside the test site. Are there any other manufacturers of these clamps other than Fischer

Re: Circuit Breaker Tripping Dring Fault Tests

2003-01-28 Thread Rich Nute
Hi Peter: For safety, it is not clear from the standards whether the main branch circuit breaker tripping during fault conditions is an acceptable result. I see no reason why this should not be acceptable. What is your view? Some third party labs find it acceptable

RE: EN55022:1998 + A1:2000

2003-01-28 Thread drcuthbert
I don't have a copy of EN55022 to look at so I'll ask a question: How many ferrite clamps and what type are specified? And are they placed at various places, at one location only, or placed as with a Bicon balun? Dave Cuthbert Micron Technology From: richwo...@tycoint.com

RE: Circuit Breaker Tripping During Fault Tests

2003-01-28 Thread Richard Hughes
Peter, I do not find your question specific enough: which standards, what fault(s), where in the world? Are you considering equipment connected only by domestic ac mains plugs or also hard-wired or connected using industrial plugs? It is certainly common for product safety standards, such as

RE: Circuit Breaker Tripping Dring Fault Tests

2003-01-28 Thread gkt4s
Like most regulatory issues the answer is YES and NO. Therefore it is dangerous and extremely misleading (to many lurkers) to apply a general answer to all conditions: * Generally the equipment is expected to protect itself with internal over current and short-circuit protection. *

RE: Circuit Breaker Tripping During Fault Tests

2003-01-28 Thread Gary McInturff
Peter, Well, you didn't tell us much about the device, but in general I would say that if you are relying on the fault protection to be provided by someone else that's not a good idea. Its not something in your control and if the installation doesn't have the proper breakers you got

RE: Circuit Breaker Tripping Dring Fault Tests

2003-01-28 Thread Jim Eichner
I've been trying to solve this one myself. I work with one pair of standards (UL458 / CSA107.1) where they specifically say that opening the branch circuit protection is acceptable during component fault testing, but NOT during short circuit tests done for the purposes of validating inadequate

Re: Applicabilty of Flicker Standard

2003-01-28 Thread John Woodgate
I read in !emc-pstc that don_borow...@selinc.com wrote (in ofae2c2f5d.695d080d-on88256cbc.00568...@selinc.com) about 'Applicabilty of Flicker Standard' on Tue, 28 Jan 2003: We are trying to figure out the applicability of 61000-3-3 Flicker Standard to the power supply in our product. We have a

Re: EN61000-4-3:2002

2003-01-28 Thread John Woodgate
I read in !emc-pstc that richwo...@tycoint.com wrote (in 846BF526A205F8 4BA2B6045BBF7E9A6A04675B9C@flbocexu05) about 'EN61000-4-3:2002' on Tue, 28 Jan 2003: Can anyone verify that EN61000-4-3:2000 does not contain common modifications to the IEC document - i.e., they are identical? I can't find

Circuit Breaker Tripping Dring Fault Tests

2003-01-28 Thread peter merguerian
Dear All, For safety, it is not clear from the standards whether the main branch circuit breaker tripping during fault conditions is an acceptable result. I see no reason why this should not be acceptable. What is your view? Some third party labs find it acceptable and others do not. Anyone can

Re: Automotive v. EMC Directives

2003-01-28 Thread Ken Javor
Not an authoritative reply, just an opinion based on theoretical knowledge. An automotive product operates from 12 Vdc, or perhaps some other dc potential. In order for it to operate outside an auto, there must be an external power supply involved. Presumably that problem could be solved by

RE: Automotive v. EMC Directives

2003-01-28 Thread Jim Eichner
The requirements are very different, especially in the test setup, and I don't think you can make assumptions in either direction. For an electronic sub-assembly, for example, you do radiated emissions at a measurement distance of 1m, which is very much in the near field. You won't likely be

RE: EN55022:1998 + A1:2000

2003-01-28 Thread Pettit, Ghery
Without looking at their web pages, I would suspect that Schaffner and Rohde Schwarz might be places to look. ETS-Lindgren, as well? Ghery Pettit Intel From: richwo...@tycoint.com [mailto:richwo...@tycoint.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 10:30 AM To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject:

EN55022:1998 + A1:2000

2003-01-28 Thread richwo...@tycoint.com
A1 to EN55022:1998 requires the use of ferrite clamps on all cables leaving the table-top EUT for a connection outside the test site. Are there any other manufacturers of these clamps other than Fischer Custom Communications? Richard Woods Sensormatic Electronics Tyco International This

Re: 'DOW' of standards

2003-01-28 Thread John Woodgate
I read in !emc-pstc that iun...@servomex.com wrote (in OF3F94F3F0.6C74C b86-on80256cbc.004d2...@servomex.co.uk) about ''DOW' of standards' on Tue, 28 Jan 2003: The OJ for the LVD (page C317/73) gives 1.1.2004 as being the date beyond which IEC 61010-1:1990/A2:1995 can no longer be used

Re: Unity Power Factor

2003-01-28 Thread Rich Nute
Hi John: No, this is not much of an issue for the U.S. (unless your facility is actually affecting the utility); ... or frying the neutral conductors with third-harmonic current. In the USA, this has largely been fixed by a change in the USA National Electrical Code.

Automotive v. EMC Directives

2003-01-28 Thread Hudson, Alan
G'Day! Is anyone familiar with the standards needed to comply with the Automotive *and* the EMC Directives? How do they compare? Or to put it another way, if an item of equipment was known to be compliant with the Automotive Directive, is it likely that it would therefore meet the

Applicabilty of Flicker Standard

2003-01-28 Thread don_borow...@selinc.com
We are trying to figure out the applicability of 61000-3-3 Flicker Standard to the power supply in our product. We have a device that may be hard wired into the public low voltage (230 V) mains under certain circumstances, and has no mains switch. Given this, it appears that the maximum relative

EN61000-4-3:2002

2003-01-28 Thread richwo...@tycoint.com
Can anyone verify that EN61000-4-3:2000 does not contain common modifications to the IEC document - i.e., they are identical? Richard Woods Sensormatic Electronics Tyco International This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit

MRA US-EU: Sectoral Annex Safety suspended

2003-01-28 Thread Carpentier Kristiaan
This seems to be the end of the Sectoral Annex Electrical Safety. http://europa.eu.int/eur-lex/en/dat/2003/l_023/l_02320030128en00240025.pdf Regards, Kris This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at:

'DOW' of standards

2003-01-28 Thread iun...@servomex.com
Dear Group, The OJ for the LVD (page C317/73) gives 1.1.2004 as being the date beyond which IEC 61010-1:1990/A2:1995 can no longer be used to presume conformance with the requirements of this Directive. After this date, can equipment previously assessed to this standard still

Re: Unity Power Factor

2003-01-28 Thread John Woodgate
I read in !emc-pstc that boconn...@t-yuden.com wrote (in F7E9180F6F7F58 40858d3db815e4f7ad1f2...@cms21.t-yuden.com) about 'Unity Power Factor' on Mon, 27 Jan 2003: No, this is not much of an issue for the U.S. (unless your facility is actually affecting the utility); ... or frying the

Re: Unity Power Factor

2003-01-28 Thread John Woodgate
I read in !emc-pstc that don_macart...@selinc.com wrote (in OF26C3658E. a50db9b6-on88256cbb.00613...@selinc.com) about 'Unity Power Factor' on Mon, 27 Jan 2003: Why are so many U.S. manufacturers using Unity Power Factor correctors in low wattage power supplies? Are there any U.S. requirements