RE: Radiated Emission Testing - Solution?

2005-03-31 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
Hi Tim- I whole heartedly agree with your comments vis a vis the unsuitability of the OATS as a rigorous test platform. I also completely agree with your comments on test repeatability. I would offer a "light at the end of the tunnel" for you. A while back Matt Aschenberg, a stats guy and myself p

RE: Weaknesses in Today's Police Radar

2005-03-31 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
At 7:19 am -0800 31/3/05, Brian O'Connell wrote: >Good People, > >I know this is off-topic, but I do not feel like being a good person today. >Engineers tend to apply logic to law; but in many legal events, the >only logic available is to "follow the money". For my money, that's about as dead

RE: protective earthing test

2005-03-31 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
The CSA approach is that you base the test current on the branch circuit overcurrent protection ahead of the product when installed as intended because the available current will determine the heating of the grounding and bonding path. In general, the breaker rating is multiplied by 2 and the test

RE: EMC/Safety/NEBS/Compliance/Wireless Engineer for sale.

2005-03-31 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
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RE: EMC Test report generation

2005-03-31 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
I guess I missed that point. The report was generally mailed within one week of the testing. Regards, Ravinder Server PCB Development Hitachi Global Storage Technologies Email: ravinder.ajm...@hitachigst.com McInturff Gary Sent by: owner-emc-p...@ieee.org 03/31/2005 11:19 AM To "'r

Symbol Source

2005-03-31 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
Can anyone point me to where I might find the source of the commonly used USB port symbol ( looks like a horizontally oriented three prong pitch fork). I am trying to establish if there are any restrictions or requirements for the use of this symbol. Regards Donald McElheran Ross Video Ltd.

RE: EMC Test report generation

2005-03-31 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
Only thing I don't see specified is the average time from end of test to the customer receiving the report. Gary From: ravinder.ajm...@hitachigst.com [mailto:ravinder.ajm...@hitachigst.com] Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 10:03 AM To: emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: Re: EMC Test report generation

Re: EMC Test report generation

2005-03-31 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
In one of my previous lives, I was EMC Engineer/Lab Manager at a commercial EMC Compliance lab. We had the following process for report generation: 1) The time charged for report generation was 3 hours, and I did not see any customer complaining. 2) The package generated for Class-B systems to

RE: Weaknesses in Today's Police Radar

2005-03-31 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
Ed, Occasionally, a "technicality" is all that is needed for a local jurisdiction to decide they don't have a case. I was "radared" by an officer standing on the side of the road with his radar gun; a second officer was standing next to him. I went to the court house to get a copy of the ticket

RE: Weaknesses in Today's Police Radar

2005-03-31 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
Good People, I know this is off-topic, but I do not feel like being a good person today. Ed has excellent advice. Engineers tend to apply logic to law; but in many legal events, the only logic available is to "follow the money". In California, traffic court has no jury, and is heard by a commiss

RE: Weaknesses in Today's Police Radar

2005-03-31 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
-Original Message- From: fdev...@assaabloyitg.com [ mailto:fdev...@assaabloyitg.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 9:02 AM To: brian_ku...@leco.com Cc: emc-p...@ieee.org; owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org Subject: Re: Weaknesses in Today's Police Radar Brian, You, your friend,

RE: protective earthing test

2005-03-31 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
Look at the CEC and C22.2 No. 0.4 luck, Brian > -Original Message- > From: owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org > [mailto:owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org]On Behalf Of P. Peruzzi > Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 1:03 AM > To: emc-p...@ieee.org > Subject: protective earthing test > >

RE: user manual and life span

2005-03-31 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
Bob, Your question may be moot. My guess is that, for quite a few pieces of medical equipment...those two life spans would be identical :-) From: owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org [mailto:owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org] On Behalf Of rehel...@mmm.com Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 5:28 AM To: e

RE: 13.56 MHz RFID and Japan

2005-03-31 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
Hi Bob, The tests involved depend wetter it is an ultra low power device or a normal low power device. Please inform me about the radiated output power and then I will be able to send you the requested information. With Kind Regards Henry Rutjes Manager Sales & Liaison * Telefica

Re: user manual and life span

2005-03-31 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
Life span of the equipment or the patient? Bob Heller 3M EMC Laboratory, 76-1-01 St. Paul, MN 55107-1208 Tel: 651- 778-6336 Fax: 651-778-6252 = "P. Peruzzi" To Sent by:

Re: user manual and life span

2005-03-31 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
Paolo, Clause 6.8.2 (j) states: "Instructions for use shall: - identify any risks associated with the disposal of waste products, residues, etc. and of the equipment and accessories at the end of their useful lives; - provide advice on minimising these risks" It could be argued that that this

user manual and life span

2005-03-31 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
Dear group, Among the information to provide in the user manual of a medical device, is there any requirement on system life span? I was requested to write it in, but I can't find any request on the current edition of 60601-1. Thanks, Paolo Peruzzi El.En. S.p.A. Via Baldanzese, 17 50041 Calenzan

13.56 MHz RFID and Japan

2005-03-31 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
Can some one give me a brief outline of the required tests and test standards needed in Japan for RFID equipment operating at 13.56 MHz? Are they based on IEC 300 330-1 and -2? Thanks in advance, Bob Heller 3M EMC Laboratory, 76-1-01 St. Paul, MN 55107-1208 Tel: 651- 778-6336 Fax: 651-778-6252 =

protective earthing test

2005-03-31 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
Dear group, Regarding medical devices, I knew protective earthing test was performed differently between EN 60601-1 and CAN/CSA 22.2 No.601-1. In particular, I read some articles talking of a 30 Amps, 2 minutes test, instead of 25 Amps, 5 seconds. Now, I've got CAN/CSA 22.2 N0 601-1, both 1990 and

RE: China Approval

2005-03-31 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
Frank, In China approvals are required depending on the equipment , its' function and interfaces. The main criteria is the Harmonized Tariff (HS) code and the type of interfaces. If you wish, please send me the HS code and a product brochure and I will determine for you if you need a CCC or other

Re: US/Taiwan EMC discrepancy

2005-03-31 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
Dave, I had a similar problem recently. The system in the states was tested for Class A. Taiwan lab tested for Class B and unit failed. I convinced them to re-test for Class A since product is for commercial use. They did and the unit then passed. Is it possible that your equipment is has been