RE: NRTL IPI Checklist???

2005-06-17 Thread owner-emc-p...@ieee.org
Agreed... The requirements vary from one agency to the next. Suggest examining CIG 022 and CIG 023 forms...they cover a lot of ground common to most certifiers. Might also contact the NRTL in request of copy of their audit form to ensure all bases are addressed. NRTL's are usually pretty good

RE: NRTL IPI Checklist???

2005-06-17 Thread owner-emc-p...@ieee.org
Most NRTLs will provide an audit "checklist" upon request. I can think of several immediate sources. The basic mfr's requirements can be found in the Section General of your UL FUS reports, CSA Design Guide for that standard, or perhaps an agency's IEC 17025 audit form (but the latter would be m

NRTL IPI Checklist???

2005-06-17 Thread owner-emc-p...@ieee.org
Hello all, Can anyone share a written checklist for use by a newbie in the compliance business (not me :-), faced with their first interaction with a NRTL's IPI (Initial Production Inspection). I've been thru it a number of times over the years myself, but have never see a written procedure. Thei

Re: ethernet radiated emissions

2005-06-17 Thread owner-emc-p...@ieee.org
Ian, the question you posted is so generic that nobody can really answer it. It does not give any clue regarding the sources and mechanisms of emission, no results of your troubleshooting, nor does it give any insight into the product and possible causes of the increased emission. If you provid

RE: ethernet radiated emissions

2005-06-17 Thread owner-emc-p...@ieee.org
Ian, The problem is probably a common-mode signal from some other source using the Ethernet cable as an antenna, as Ken Javor has suggested. The 20dB failure is strong evidence of that because an Ethernet signal based failure would not be that strong. Besides, 33 MHz is not a clock frequency

RE: ethernet radiated emissions

2005-06-17 Thread owner-emc-p...@ieee.org
33MHz - sounds like PCI bus. The radiation originating from Ethernet is very broadband per se as the data is scrambled using a pseudo-random code, thus widening the spectrum. This was intended to reduce EMI. There are several things to think of: - The traces between the magnetics and the connector

RE: ethernet radiated emissions

2005-06-17 Thread owner-emc-p...@ieee.org
Ian, PCB layout is very critical; especially in the I/O area (around the RJ-45 connectors). Make sure that the Ethernet transformer you use has good common-mode filtering built in. You might also try using "Bob Smith termination" on the un-used pins of the I/O connector. If you've never heard of

Re: ethernet radiated emissions

2005-06-17 Thread owner-emc-p...@ieee.org
No experience with Ethernet per se, so this is a very general comment. It sounds as if the emissions are common mode. If so, they may not have anything to do with the Ethernet itself, the Ethernet may be a fortuitous conductor. I would check this using a current probe around the cable, with and

ethernet radiated emissions

2005-06-17 Thread owner-emc-p...@ieee.org
Dear colleagues; Can anyone advise me how to reduce the radiated emissions from a 100 base-T Ethernet port with a UTP cable connected to below the EN55022 class B limit? At the moment I am 20dB above the limit at 33MHz. Using STP only reduces the emissions by 6dB. Thanks in advance; Ian McBurne

R: Regulatory requirment for RFID technology

2005-06-17 Thread owner-emc-p...@ieee.org
In Europe RFID are subject to the provision of R&TTE directive that cover: EMC, Safety, Radio. For EMC you have to apply EN 301 489-1 and EN 301 489-3 For safety EN 60950-1 coul be used and for radio look on the list of the standards at http://europa.eu.int/comm/enterprise/ne approach/standardizati

RE: Endoscopes for GTEM in Radaited Immunity testing.

2005-06-17 Thread owner-emc-p...@ieee.org
Yes, I have tried that with a little degree of success because the orientation of the EUT. Getting a view with enough contrast from the back-lit LCD panel is always a real challenge. At present spotting a momentary "transient" event like a flicker on the LCD display panel is almost an impossibility