RE: cordless phones interfering with GFCI devices

2007-01-25 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
From: Peter Tarver Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 12:54 PM Ooops! I should have said IEEE EMC-PSTC Forum. Neither IEEE nor PSES membership are requisite to register for the site. Any way, point being that by placing that information somewhere else that is publicly accessible, I

RE: cordless phones interfering with GFCI devices

2007-01-25 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
From: John Woodgate Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 1:25 PM Tarver, Peter writes Ooops! I should have said IEEE EMC-PSTC Forum. Neither IEEE nor PSES membership are requisite to register for the site. That's where we are, isn't it? -- Perhaps it's a matter of semantics. The web

RE: cordless phones interfering with GFCI devices

2007-01-25 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
Ted - The query was limited to GFCI devices, but it seems reasonable to include any AFCI devices. The key issues are the wireless telephony products interfering. SMPSs are not involved in this query, unless incorporated into a wireless telephony product. If data for GFCIs and AFCIs are

RE: Harmonised product standard for AC Power Source

2007-01-25 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
The majority of AC-DC power supplies for lab use are done to the various versions of 61010-1, as they are considered test and measurement equipment, and use of 61010-1 gives everyone a harmonized approach for most countries. There is an IEC 61204 series that includes a -7 safety standard that has

RE: China RoHS mark requirements

2007-01-25 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
I'm trying to get up to speed, and I've seen lots of stuff saying March 1, 2007 is the deadline, but isn't that just for phase 1 (disclosure)? What is the deadline for phase 2 (restriction)? Jim Eichner, P.Eng. Compliance Engineering Manager Xantrex Technology Inc. e-mail: jim.eich...@xantrex.com

Re: EN 55022:1998

2007-01-25 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
On Thu, 25 Jan 2007 14:37:43 +0100, M. Loerzer-Mobile (GLOBALNORM) loerzer_mob...@globalnorm.de wrote: We register very often such mistakes in the OJEU (Toys Directive, Machinery, EMC, Low Voltage, Medical, etc.). Therefore we announce these mistakes in our standards database GLOBALNORM.

Re: cordless phones interfering with GFCI devices

2007-01-25 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
Does the TIA have any interest in Arc Fault Circuit Interrupters (AFCIs)? These devices have the potential to become more numerous than GFCIs in the United States. Proposals for the 2008 National Electrical Code would require AFCIs for a significant portion of the circuits in residential

RE: cordless phones interfering with GFCI devices

2007-01-25 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
From: John Woodgate Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 12:20 PM or you may refer to the Note I added to the PSES web site today. I'm not a PSES member, so I can't see it. Ooops! I should have said IEEE EMC-PSTC Forum. Neither IEEE nor PSES membership are requisite to register for the site.

Re: cordless phones interfering with GFCI devices

2007-01-25 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
In message be3336be85968d49be01e66d6e365b1e018c6...@sjc1amfpew01.am.sanm.corp, dated Thu, 25 Jan 2007, Tarver, Peter peter.tar...@sanmina-sci.com writes I then point those concerned about the baggage corporate lawyers have IT automatically add to all out-going e-mails, to either ignore those

RE: China RoHS mark requirements

2007-01-25 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
note that almost all products will exceed the limit for lead even if they are EU RoHS compliant. This is due to the exempt high temp solders in many IC's. Regards, Chris From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Gartman, Richard Sent: 25 January 2007 19:08 To: Brian

RE: cordless phones interfering with GFCI devices

2007-01-25 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
The below is now also posted in the discussions are of the PSES Forum web site. The TIA (Telecommunication Industry Association) is looking for any information on incidents of wireless phones (cordless, cell, etc.) interfering with ground fault circuit interrupters (GFCIs). If anyone has any

RE: cordless phones interfering with GFCI devices

2007-01-25 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
I then point those concerned about the baggage corporate lawyers have IT automatically add to all out-going e-mails, to either ignore those disclaimers or you may refer to the Note I added to the PSES web site today. (I added it to the Note section, because I'm inept at posting to the discussions

RE: China RoHS mark requirements

2007-01-25 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
If you meet the requirements; the circle e ... If you exceed the RoHS MCV will be the circle with a number on the useful life of the product before it begins to contaminate the environment. You also get to include in your documentation a description of what components in your product exceed these

China RoHS mark requirements

2007-01-25 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
Good People, Several questions. For phase 1 - what markings are required if some limits exceeded ? For phase 2 - if all limits met, what marks are required ? Thanks much, Brian - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list.Website:

Re: cordless phones interfering with GFCI devices

2007-01-25 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
In message be3336be85968d49be01e66d6e365b1e018c6...@sjc1amfpew01.am.sanm.corp, dated Thu, 25 Jan 2007, Tarver, Peter peter.tar...@sanmina-sci.com writes The TIA (Telecommunication Industry Association) is looking for any information on incidents of wireless phones (cordless, cell, etc.)

Re: USB cable catching fire?

2007-01-25 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
Dear First Responders of the Forum, many thanks to you all for extremely efficient and professional responses. I definitely support Mike's opinion what this forum is all about learning experience and excelent one at that. Now I will chew on all of this great amount of information,

cordless phones interfering with GFCI devices

2007-01-25 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
The TIA (Telecommunication Industry Association) is looking for any information on incidents of wireless phones (cordless, cell, etc.) interfering with ground fault circuit interrupters (GFCIs). If anyone has any information relating to this, please let me know and I will forward information to

Packaging requirements for China RoHS

2007-01-25 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
Good morning all, I have studied some documents about China RoHS and the packaging requirements and one point is not very clear. Does each individual packaging need to be marked or can the outer box be mark to represent the complete packaging requirements. E.g. if a product is put in a polythene

Harmonised product standard for AC Power Source

2007-01-25 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
Good day all, I'm in the market for a new AC?DC power source for my lab. I'm coming across differing CE mark testing performed on the DoC's and I'm a little confused as to what the latest and greatest requirements are. Is there a harmonised standard for lab AC/DC powers supplies? Thanks, Derek

RE: GR-1089 Issue 4 and 10GBASE-CX4: Intra-building Surge applicable?

2007-01-25 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
Hello Michael, When we added these exemptions from the intra-building lightning testing as part of the GR-1089 revision, our concern was really not the cable length itself, but the distance between equipment. This correlated with the potential distance a cable could exposed in the overhead

Re: EN 55022:1998

2007-01-25 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
We register very often such mistakes in the OJEU (Toys Directive, Machinery, EMC, Low Voltage, Medical, etc.). Therefore we announce these mistakes in our standards database GLOBALNORM. The quoted amendments don't belong there: A1:2000 and A2:2003 are amendments to EN 55022:1998 not to EN

RE: EN 55022:1998

2007-01-25 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
Tom My understanding is that these two amendments were added to the 1994 version in error although I do not have official confirmation of that as of yet. If it is agreed that they are in error a corrigendum will be issued fairly soon. John John McAuley Compliance Engineering Ireland Ltd

Fw: EN 55022:1998

2007-01-25 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
Hi Tom, This is a mistake. There will be an amendment to the EMC OJ on 27th January, or so I'm told... Jon Larkin Cranage EMC Safety - Original Message - From: T.Sato vef00...@nifty.ne.jp To: emc-p...@ieee.org Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 11:55 AM Subject: Re: EN 55022:1998

Re: EN 55022:1998

2007-01-25 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
On Thu, 11 Jan 2007 14:38:42 -0800, Samuel Lifshutz slifsh...@mrv.com wrote: In December 2006 a new List of EMC Harmonized Standards was published in OJEU: ... The newly published list of EMC Directive harmonized standards has extended implementation date for these Amendment 1:2000 and

GR-1089 Issue 4 and 10GBASE-CX4: Intra-building Surge applicable?

2007-01-25 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
Dear All, The 10GBASE-CX4 interface permits a maximum cable length of 15m (49feet). As the transmission speed per lane is 3.125Gbit/s, the use of protection devices is prohibited. GR-1089 Issue 4 section 4.6.9 contains the following clause(s): {quote} Intra-building tests are not required if