Re: USB Power Converter

2007-02-07 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
In message , dated Wed, 7 Feb 2007, "Price, Ed" writes >I believe that device might manage to also invoke the medical and toy >requirements. Now, if the device were equipped with some kind of >feedback sensor (and I can't imagine what physical parameter might be >of interest), EEG waves! >

RE: USB Power Converter

2007-02-07 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
From: John Woodgate [mailto:j...@jmwa.demon.co.uk] Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 10:28 AM To: emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: Re: USB Power Converter In message , dated Wed, 7 Feb 2007, Jon Griver writes >If you think that's a novel use of the USB concept, check out: >http://www.getusb.info/us

Re: USB Power Converter

2007-02-07 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
In message <9b9d334219387043a6cbef09a7104f4301dce...@ma01exch01.cantata.com>, dated Wed, 7 Feb 2007, "Stone, Richard" writes >If it was indeed a peripheral then it would subjected to its own >compliance requirements. In this case, the USB port cant be a >peripheral as it is Included(mounted)wi

Re: USB Power Converter

2007-02-07 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
In message <785975EAC320644FA6447FCC7B73F11094B1AB@MILEXMIPV1.sdcorp.global.sandisk. com>, dated Wed, 7 Feb 2007, Sudhakar Wasnik writes >But never expected to function as a power source like power supply. Well, surely if it's designed to supply power, and the USB specification doesn't restri

RE: USB Power Converter

2007-02-07 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
Thanks John, >Is the USB port seen as a Power source (5V/700mA) or communication >port? Both. A physical port doesn't necessarily have a unique function. But never expected to function as a power source like power supply. >  >Look form the PC makers side,  when PC is goes for certification

RE: USB Power Converter

2007-02-07 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
Hello John, If it was indeed a peripheral then it would subjected to its own compliance requirements. In this case, the USB port cant be a peripheral as it is Included(mounted)within the PC. The older USB ports/drive that were cabled To a pc would be classified as a peripheral. I read this in a PC

Re: USB Power Converter

2007-02-07 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
In message , dated Wed, 7 Feb 2007, John Woodgate writes >What is needed is a standard that specifies clearly the requirements >(functional safety and EMC) OOPS! I meant (functional, safety and EMC). What a difference a comma makes! -- OOO - Own Opinions Only. Try www.jmwa.demon.co.uk and www

Re: USB Power Converter

2007-02-07 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
In message <785975EAC320644FA6447FCC7B73F11094B175@MILEXMIPV1.sdcorp.global.sandisk. com>, dated Wed, 7 Feb 2007, Sudhakar Wasnik writes >Is the USB port seen as a Power source (5V/700mA) or communication >port? Both. A physical port doesn't necessarily have a unique function. >  >Look form t

Re: USB Power Converter

2007-02-07 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
In message , dated Wed, 7 Feb 2007, Jon Griver writes >If you think that's a novel use of the USB concept, check out: >http://www.getusb.info/usb-foot-warmers-and-glitter-lamps/ >  >You can also find USB powered coffee warmers out there. >  >Are these IT accessories, or DC powered domestic appara

RE: USB Power Converter

2007-02-07 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
Very interesting , Is the USB port seen as a Power source (5V/700mA) or communication port? Look form the PC makers side, when PC is goes for certification , will it require to use all these novel accessories as a load and verify compliance against each? Thanks, Sudhakar _ From:

RE: USB Power Converter

2007-02-07 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
Ed, If you think that's a novel use of the USB concept, check out: http://www.getusb.info/usb-foot-warmers-and-glitter-lamps/ You can also find USB powered coffee warmers out there. Are these IT accessories, or DC powered domestic apparatus ;-) Jon Griver http://www.601help.com The Medical

RE: USB Power Converter

2007-02-07 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
Hello guys, Most of the MP3 Players have this USB battery charging system using USB cable. Plug the USB cable to USB port it will charge the battery and also you can use USB for normal operation. USB IF standards calls for EYE diagram compliance of such devices. Most of the USB cruzer drives a

Re: USB Power Converter

2007-02-07 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
A quick review of the USB 2.0 standard does not show any EMC requirements for USB power or devices. The USB standard only states that "All USB devices should be designed to meet the applicable regulatory requirements". CISPR 24 should be used to determine acceptable noise and transient levels. I

Re: USB Power Converter

2007-02-07 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
In message , dated Wed, 7 Feb 2007, "Price, Ed" writes >OTOH, is there anything in the USB definition that addresses RF noise >and transients on the USB power bus? Is there a CE/CS USB criteria? I don't know about the USB definition, but CISPR22/EN 55022 now sets limits for emissions on 'd.c

USB Power Converter

2007-02-07 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
I recently read about a company that will be introducing a series of micro-sized power converters that will attach to a computer's USB port and charge general purpose rechargeable batteries. The logic is that USB ports are ubiquitous, people who have computers typically also have several applicatio

RE: IEC 61000-4-4 ed.2, verification of CDNs

2007-02-07 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
On Tue, 6 Feb 2007 11:25:38 -0500, "Hopkins, Michael J." wrote: > There is currently a corrigendum circulating to clarify this issue, but > the way it's currently written, it probably won't survive. ... > In either case, most also agree that the calibration should be done for > each line ou

Re: New LVD 2006/95/EC

2007-02-07 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
In message <200702071143.l17bhorq018...@smtp18.singnet.com.sg>, dated Wed, 7 Feb 2007, kohscp writes >Where did you get these date of 20 July 2007 & 20 July 2008 for >2006/95/EC? This New LVD directive is officially release on 12 December >2006, and enter into fore on 16 January 2007. > >Or are

RE: New LVD 2006/95/EC

2007-02-07 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
Hi John, Where did you get these date of 20 July 2007 & 20 July 2008 for 2006/95/EC? This New LVD directive is officially release on 12 December 2006, and enter into fore on 16 January 2007. Or are you referring to New EMC directive? Regards Koh From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org

RE: Conducted Emissions for poewr over Ethernet device

2007-02-07 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
Derek, The EMC directive will almost certainly apply, and you should consider whether the R&TTE directive might be applicable, in which case it takes precedence over the EMC directive and also applies all the requirements of the LVD without limitation of voltage. Best regards Neil R. Barker CEn

RE: 60950 vs. 60215

2007-02-07 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
Our microwave products are certified using both standard the only different is a measure of emitted field from enclosure. Paolo Gemma Siemens Networks SpA Carrier Research & Development Microwave System Test EMC/safety S.S. 11 Padana Superiore Km.158 20060 - Cassina de' Pecchi (MI) * office: +3

RE: New LVD 2006/95/EC

2007-02-07 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
I think this question has already been answered, but to clarify; although 73/23/EEC has been repealed, the new directive, 2006/95/EC makes specific provision that any reference to 73/23/EEC will be construed as a reference to 2006/95/EC. Hence, there is no need to change existing DoCs, which will g

RE: Conducted Emissions for poewr over Ethernet device

2007-02-07 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
Hi Derek, PoE powered devices follow all the same requirements as would a product powered from any other source (straight from AC inlet, DC input from an AC/DC converter, etc.). The LVD and EMC Directives all still apply as would the R&TTE Directive if it falls under that category. Maybe I’